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Acura MDX (pre-2007)

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  • wolfekmwolfekm Member Posts: 18
    I've now had 2 of the 3 catalytic converters in my 2003 mdx replaced b/c of deterioration. Has anyone else had similar problems??? It's all under warranty, but it's been a hassle spending all of this time at the dealership over the past month.
  • wclarkjr1wclarkjr1 Member Posts: 19
    Will the Acura MDX see a major body change in 2005 or 2006?
  • rerenov8rrerenov8r Member Posts: 380
    Wow that sounds odd. There are two cats mounted VERY high up on the exhaust manifold, plus the third in the "normal" location -- for the uppers to be damaged it would have to come from some highly unusual exhaust.

    Did they tell more about the problem? What about your fuel/driving habits?

    More info is appreciated.
  • rerenov8rrerenov8r Member Posts: 380
    There is nothing to suggest that there will be any major changes until 2006, and there are rumours that even those changes could come late.
  • carbuff28carbuff28 Member Posts: 3
    I have a 2001 MDX with 75,000 miles. It's a great car -- one of the best I've ever owned -- but the lease is about up.

    I need to decide whether to buy the car (at about $23,000, including a mileage penalty) or get something else.

    Anyone have thoughts on the likely reliability of the car, for the next three years, if I drive around 12k/year? So far, all I've done is change the tires, and Hondas I know can go for many hundreds of thousands of miles. Anyone know of sites or articles on long-term reliability of MDXs?
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 53,337
    how can you have a mileage penalty if you buy the car out? I assume you only pay that if you turn it back in. Otherwise, you pay the residual, regardless of mileage.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • carbuff28carbuff28 Member Posts: 3
    I should have been a bit clearer in my post (#5633): The buy out is around $23,000, including about a $4500 (!) penalty for my excessive driving (~ 40,000 extra miles in three years). If I turn the car back in at the end of the lease instead of buying it, I will have to pay $4500. But the buyout cost of the car with that many miles on it reflects, correctly, its reduced value compared with 2001 model that has normal (e.g., around 12,000/year) mileage.

    In other words, if either I or Acura were to turn around and sell the MDX with 75K miles on the open market, we could only hope to receive somewhere around $23,000 (more in Acura's case if they add a pre-owned certification and warranty extension).
     
    In contrast, the market cost for a dealer-sold 2001 MDX with around 36,000 miles would be approximately $27,500.
  • mslanmslan Member Posts: 8
    Does anyone know what the Canadian MDX warranty period is on the 2004 vehicle. The brochure says 3 years but a salesman said it is 4 years.

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  • xenon240xenon240 Member Posts: 9
    don't believe the salesman, the factory bumper to bumper warranty is only 3 years! You can purchase an extended warranty to 7 years and if you don't use it they will give you your money back!

    I've been asking a lot of questions before purchase, didn't like the resonance at 2000rpm (too annoying, especially for a luxury vehicle). I'm going to wait for 05 model hopefully they'll either go back to single exhaust or figure out the resonating noise.
  • mslanmslan Member Posts: 8
    Did you test drive the '04 yet and hear the resonance? I have to go back and do so. So far, they have put me in an '03 tester so I didn't hear it. I'm obviously going to take an '04 and listen for myself but I would like to hear as many comments on it as possible.
  • mslanmslan Member Posts: 8
    I took the 2004 MDX out for a drive tonight and although I did hear the 2000 rpm resonance, I don't think it is an issue. There was a snowstorm here and I didn't have it out on a highway so I could only maintain it at 2000 rpm only at about 25 or 30 mph. The resonance seems to give it a little soul - a European flavour - didn't bother me at these speeds. I drove the Infiniti fx/35 and it has a much more intrusive growl in my humble opinion.
  • xenon240xenon240 Member Posts: 9
    I test drove 2 different MDX's at 2 different dealers both had the same problem. When I was younger I owned a Firebird TransAM, the exhaust was quite loud. As most sports cars have tuned exhaust, the loudness of the exhaust always occurs at a specific RPM. Being a young buck, the loud exhaust was desired and enjoyable, but now that I'm older my preference is now for quiteness and smoothness. The noise with the MDX at 2000rpm to me is not acceptable for a luxury vehicle.
    Don't get me wrong, I'm in the market for an SUV and the MDX is still on my list but I'm starting to lean more towards the Lexus RX330 if I purchase before the 05's. If I wait til 05 the MDX will be my choice if they can quiet down the exhaust noise!
  • agape5agape5 Member Posts: 1
    Any thoughts on the differences between Base and Touring?--specifically, the radios, and sound insulation, and seats. Anyone get below MSRP on Base models?
  • gty62gty62 Member Posts: 25
    . . . you forgot the power front seats 2-position memory (also connected to outside mirrors), sportier rims, rain-sensing automatic wipers, and roof rack. and the Touring radio is a Multi-CD model.

    As for stereo quality, I dunno . .. how sensitive are your ears??? some folks can't tell a rich stereo from a single speaker AM radio (my dad's a prime example)! IMO that's a matter of personal preference.

    Also, I think you're gonna be hard pressed to find a Base model to look at, unless the dealer has on going out to a customer - most dealers' I've visited only have a loaded Touring model for a demo, and slim pickin's in stock to look at. . ... Good luck.
  • 2003tls2003tls Member Posts: 100
    I don't think the individual components are worth the extra $2,600 for the Touring, but since Acura's have no real options, if you want some of the stuff of the Touring model (in-dash 6 Disc CD Changer, memory settings for the seats, etc.) you have to step up to the Touring. And yes, the Base models are much harder to find. The dealers want to sell the higher profit Touring ones.
  • mslanmslan Member Posts: 8
    Of course each according to his taste. I went out to drive in a snow storm. I will have to do it again when the roads are drive and I can actually do a highway drive to see if it really bugs me. In the conditions I drove in, I wasn't really cruising at 2000 rpm. It may bother me if I was in 4th gear. My guess - don't hold your breath waiting for a change in 2005. But who knows?
  • tbooth2tbooth2 Member Posts: 33
    Want to purchase MDX with DVD and NAV system. Please let me know about your ownership experience with this vehicle and let me have your honest opinion. I've been to hell and back with my current vehicle and don't want to make same mistake. Would you purchase this vehicle again, even without incentives and rebates considering all other choices out there?
  • saugataksaugatak Member Posts: 488
    You should look at the reviews on Edmunds for more info.

    I have the 2003 MDX and I love it. It's a great car. Handles extremely well for such a big car, not as luxurious as, say a Lexus, but the interior is well laid out and the seats are firm and comfortable (Both wife and I have done long drives in the MDX and have been completely comfortable). Gas mileage is among best in class and its build quality and reliability have been superb.

    There's always a chance of a lemon, but with an Acura, the chances of getting a lemon are really small.

    Regarding the 2004 edition, it has 5 more HP and I think better power lumbar seats and an extra set of side curtain airbags, thicker and better quality sound dampening materials, but it's widely reported that there is a humming noise due to something with the dual exhaust system. I heard there is a fix on the way and once they get that resolved, the 2004 should be even better than the 2003 edition.
  • tbooth2tbooth2 Member Posts: 33
    Thanks for info. I too see that many folks are experiencing that humming sound with new 2004. Do you know when fix will be place and are they fixing those that are already on road?
  • saugataksaugatak Member Posts: 488
    I am not sure when the fix will be out. I've just read rumors on different boards that they have figured it out and will put a fix out.

    If you want the MDX real bad and don't need to upgrade right away, I'd wait for the fix to come out. If you need a new car ASAP, IMO, I'd get another car or find the 2003 edition and see if you can get it at a discount.

    I think 04 loaded MDX will cost $43k or so and that's too much to pay for a car with a humming noise problem.
  • tbooth2tbooth2 Member Posts: 33
    I'm about three weeks away. That's when the buyback of my current vehicle will be competed. Is this anomaly a hit and miss thing or do all of the 2004s do it? I did find a dealer who will sell me fully loaded (dvd-nav) for much less than MSRP. He's says he has one in my color (silver over black) that is scheduled to be built in early February and ready third week of February. Is that to early to expect a fix? Please let me know and thanks.
  • saugataksaugatak Member Posts: 488
    What I've read (and this is only rumor, not verified fact) is that the humming noise is caused by a faulty part in the dual exhaust system.

    If this rumor is true, then even if the MDX you purchase has the humming noise (and it seems a good percentage have them going by what's on the Edmunds boards and other Acura MDX fan sites), when Acura comes out with the fix it's a simple matter for the dealer to replace the part.

    If this rumor were true, and since you can buy a fully loaded MDX for significantly off MSRP, I'd do the deal, suffer with the humming noise for a short time until the fix came in.

    Problem is, there is no way to know for sure whether the rumor is true.

    I'd go to your dealer and ask him about whether Acura has the fix yet for the humming noise and get him to write that into the sales contract (i.e., you have the right to return the car if they can't fix the humming noise within 3 months).

    If dealer is willing to do that then it means Acura does have the fix and it will just take them time to get enough replacement parts and distribute them.

    If dealer isn't willing to do this, it's an indication that Acura still hasn't found the fix yet.

    Good luck. If you can get MDX for significant off MSRP and it doesn't have the humming noise, it's a great vehicle.
  • jrock65jrock65 Member Posts: 1,371
    How do you enter in a specific address (letters and numbers) in the MDX Navi? How often is the system wrong, or take you in a longer route?
  • transpowertranspower Member Posts: 213
    jrock65:

    In my experience, the MDX Navigation System works 20 out of 21 times I try it; thus it's very accurate. As for the specific address, just type in (or say for the newer models) the number after you type in (or say) the street name.

    Transpower
  • jrock65jrock65 Member Posts: 1,371
    Thanks for the reply transpower.

    So for the newer models, you can just say an entire address and the navi will recognize it?
  • gty62gty62 Member Posts: 25
    Noticed the now infamous hmmm in my 04 on the second day of use - on a parkway at 2K rpm. As I happened to be on the way back to the dealer (to install back ordered accessories), I asked the service manager - First he claimed ignorance, then he agreed to put it on a lift. He then removed one hanger from the exhaust system (the one on front of the muffler, to be exact.) He said he heard about this possible remedy from another dealer - Seems like it did the trick!

    He also said that Acura did not have a fix yet.
  • sbcookesbcooke Member Posts: 2,297
    We just took our MDX to upstate NY. Once again it performed great. The AWD was seemless, it was hard to even notice it was doing anything, until I started passing and seeing 2wd cars having difficulty next to me. The AWD in the snow really works well. Since I don't have traction control, I was also able to utilize the snow to do some quick u-turns...with the right amount of gas and turning, you can get the back end to kick out and be helpful in some situations.

    My only complaint is the floor mats. I think I am going to invest in husky-liners for next winter.

    BTW I tried to pay attention to humming or not humming in my '02...At some speeds I did notice more noise, similar to what is described in the '04, but it wasn't consistent or very loud and at higher speeds it went away. So this could either be a similar thing with the exhaust or just how the engine/exhaust sounds. I could only really hear it if I was listening for it. I would be interested to compare it to the noise an '04 makes.
  • fndlyfmrflyrfndlyfmrflyr Member Posts: 668
    The lack of stability control makes our 02 tail happy in the wet too. Doesn't snow here, but going through a wet area while going around turns on an otherwise dry road sometimes makes for a tail out E-Ticket ride.

    Sounds like your 02 hums like mine. Above 85, right up to the speed limiter, there is no hum. Nor is there any below 76. In between, sometimes there is none, but usually there is some, but never very loud.
  • riversideriverside Member Posts: 5
    I live in Jax. FL, has anyone purchased a base model in this area for less than MSRP? I would be willing to travel to central FL or Atlanta, GA if the price is right.
  • lmacmillmacmil Member Posts: 1,758
    I'm seriously looking at the MDX but there is no Acura dealer in town. In fact, the closest dealers are about 100 miles away. I know at least one of those dealers will pick up your car and leave an identical loaner when you need service but I may buy used so I don't think I'll get that kind of treatment. Anyone in this situation and if so, what do you do?
  • fndlyfmrflyrfndlyfmrflyr Member Posts: 668
    There is no requirement that routine service be done by an Acura dealer. However, if the car is still covered by warranty be sure to keep receipts showing service was done at an appropriate time and that proper replacement parts and fluids were used. For warranty work make sure you have something in writing before the work is done that shows the work done by the Honda dealer is covered by the Acura warranty.
  • aggie76aggie76 Member Posts: 266
    I too am over 100 miles from a dealer and have had only one trip in 12 months since moving into the area. I bought the MDX at a out-of-state dealer and that has not made a difference. The one trip was regarding a problem that was taken care of efficiently and correctly the first time. All my other service has been at a local service firm that I have a relationship with and uses correct parts and I can always get service records if I misplace something.

    I will say that I am going to replace my '01 MDX later this year and the distance issue is weighing on my mind as this dealer will not travel for pick-up on service related issues. Not sure what I will do but I live in a small rural town with few choices for autos. Other competitor dealers will pick up and deliver to owners here locally, from 60 plus miles so that may sway my decision their way.
  • sbcookesbcooke Member Posts: 2,297
    Instead of doing a complete service...since my car is almost new and charging to check my wiper blades seems over the top...what does everyone think is best to have done?

    -Oil Change
    -Rotate tires
    -Change differential fluid (I fall into extreme driving conditions with lots of stop and go)
    -Adjust parking brake
    -Check transmission fluid level

    One dealer I called changes the transmission fluid? I think that probably isn't required? Opinions? Anything I am missing?
  • fndlyfmrflyrfndlyfmrflyr Member Posts: 668
    If you had the rear end fluid changed at 7500 miles you can wait until 30K. Not hard to change it yourself BTW, but you need the small hand pump Honda sells (less than $10). The fluid costs about $20 per gallon (you need less than 3 quarts). Easy to reach drain and fill plugs with all four wheels on the ground.

    Tire wear has been outstanding on mine. First rotation done at 20K. Difference in wear between front and back only 3 32nds.

    My cabin air filter (the one behind the glove box) was getting rather dirty at 20K. Probably would have made 30K. Engine air filter rather dirty too. More dirt than expected on both and probably due to ash and such from the SoCal fires last year.

    Parking brake works fine at 23K with no adjustment.

    Drain and fill tranny fluid at 20K or so isn't a bad idea, or flush and replace every 50K or so. I usually go the flush route between 50 and 60K.

    Make sure to check spare tire pressure.
  • smg1062smg1062 Member Posts: 54
    Awaiting my 2004 MDX. I want to change the tires and wheels, perhaps 20" wheels. Will the shop know which size tires to use based on the wheel size? I know there is a calculation and I assume that custom wheel/tire shops will know what to do..........right? Also, any recommendations on wheels and/or tires? And what $$ should I expect to pay............THANKS!
  • fndlyfmrflyrfndlyfmrflyr Member Posts: 668
    smg1062
    A good tire /wheel store can help you. Going to a plus 3 size (20 inch) wheel/tire combination usually results in a significantly harsher ride. Plus 1, 18 inch wheel/tires for the MDX, will usually not make the ride much harsher and will usually make the vehicle more responsive to steering input. Too much wheel/tire can actually make handing worse unless the suspension is also modified.

    The Michelin Cross Terrain tires that came on my MDX wear quite well and ride well too. Grip is another story. They feel fine at normal speeds but don't stop or stick well with aggressive driving. However, they have been very good in the rain. Keep in mind that great handling and stopping power frequently means more rapid tire wear.
  • tbooth2tbooth2 Member Posts: 33
    Agree with last post. The thinner and wider the tire, the harsher the ride - you will lose that cushion that a taller good quality tire provides and end up having a lot of road track vibration to take away from your driving pleasure for sure. Oversized aftermarket tires and wheels can sometimes tear up your hubs and prematurely wear out bearings and stuff, so I wouldn't go that big. Remember, you car was designed to operate at it's best under stock configuration, but I really don't like the touring wheel design - it's too small, it's got an old-fashioned look and too many crannies - hard to clean!
  • smg1062smg1062 Member Posts: 54
    If 20" causes too much road feedback and lack of that cushiony ride, would 18" be OK? I hate the stock wheels.................
  • jamberjamber Member Posts: 21
    Hi,
    I'm looking for some help from people with baby car seats in the MDX.

    I'm very close to getting an MDX for my wife. We have a little one on the way (first one) and I was wondering how we would configure a baby car seat...

    I know we want the car seat in the middle seat in the 2nd row. Will this setup block access to the 3rd row. If so, can I put it on the passenger side and still access the 3rd row from the drivers side?

    My wife's sister is also pregnant and I could see us putting in a second car seat every so often, so we can all travel together... what would be the best way for two car seats and still have access to the 3rd row? Can the car seats fit next to each other in the 2nd row.

    Thank you
  • sbcookesbcooke Member Posts: 2,297
    I find access to the 3rd row is easiest for the little ones through the rear hatch, and they like having their own door. We haven't put more than one person back there though, so when we use it we just have one side up and the other folded flat so whoever can climb in easily. If you put the seat on the passenger side, you can still fold down the drivers side, but it doesn't slide forward. If you put the seat in the middle you should be able to use the passenger side access to the 3rd row.

    If you use a latch compatible seat (a lot of people here use a Britax seat) it will either have to be behind passenger or driver, for rear facing most likely passenger so you can still have full range of motion for the driver's seat. We used a graco rear facing and moved up to the Britax when it was time to turn the baby around.

    With multiple kids, we find putting the kids on either side is best, it minimizes toy grabbing, pinching, etc. My wife sits in the middle seat. The seat is pretty wide and 3 can sit across the second row seat easily (even with 2 car seats).

    There is no latch for the middle spot, though a conventional seat would fit in the middle attached via the shoulder belt with another one on either side. Latch is so much easier to get secure than the standard hookups that I will only use those types in the MDX. So for us the middle wasn't really an option for baby seats. Boosters are fine in the middle since they don't need to be secured to the car.
  • tbooth2tbooth2 Member Posts: 33
    SMG1062,

    I say 18" is probably best. That's my plan as soon as I can come up with the cash to pay for them. You're right about the stock rims being ugly. I thought that from the first, but it's the one thing you can change about the car to make it that much better. Just don't go too big and don't listen to the guy trying to sell you some 20's - remember he will not driving it, you will!
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Congratulations on your impending fatherhood! We bought our MDX when our first was born, and now it is carrying two.

    You have the right idea of having your child in the middle of the second row, which is the safest position.

    For a single baby seat, you should be able to put it in the middle row and still have access to the third row. When you fold down the passenger side of the second row to gain access to the back, there may be some brushing against the seat but it should still fold. "Should" because this may be influenced by the seat you get. You can go to a place like Babies'R'Us and they'll let you try the seats before buying.

    With the above configuration, a passenger can sit pretty comfortably to the right of the infant, and somewhat comfortably to the left (again, depends on the width of the seat).

    As sbcooke mentioned, there are no LATCH anchors for the middle of the second row (not many vehicles have them there, sadly). There are two alternatives here for installation. You can use a belted installation. While it's less convenient to set up, when properly done it is as secure (if not more so) than a LATCH install. The middle belt does come down from the roof and at first I was concerned that it'd interfere with rearward visibility. However, in practice I don't even notice that it's there.

    Alternatively, if the carseat permits it (usually best to call the manufacturer), you may be able to use LATCH from the middle position by connecting to the two inboard LATCH anchors of the outboard seating positions. However, if you do this you will not be able to LATCH a second seat into the outboard positions.

    When you do have to put a second seat in the vehicle, you might be okay putting it to the left of the center seat. Again, this will depend on the width of the seat (some infant seats are quite bulky on the sides). That would retain access to the third row. Installing it to the right of the center seat would provide more room but make third row access less convenient.

    Again, congratulations!
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Congratulations on the new 2004!

    Unfortunately I couldn't see the picture, but I believe you said you saw an attachment point on the back of the center of the second row. This is a top-tether anchorage point, and it is for all three seating positions in the second row, and there are also two for the third row.

    The LATCH points refer to the Lower Anchors that are located at the base of the seat (between the seatback and the seat cushion). As far as I know (though I'd love to be mistaken), the MDX has only two pairs in the second row.

    LATCH seats attach using those lower anchor points. Very few rear-facing seats use the top-tether anchors (with some notable exceptions -- though they still require a LATCH or belt installation to secure at the bottom). Usually they're for forward-facing child seats, belted or LATCHed in, to secure the top of the seat (a strap comes out near the top of the child seat, over the seatback, and clips onto the top tether anchor and tightened).

    If there isn't a Babies'R'Us near you, it is possible that a Toys'R'Us might have a similar policy, or at least a very liberal return policy. Better baby-specialty stores also let you test-fit seats.
  • jamberjamber Member Posts: 21
    Thanks again wmquan, you are correct, I did not find the LATCH anchors for the center second row seat where you described on the front side of the seast. I do see them on the outboad seats, but not the center. Sorry you could not see the photo, but you knew what I was talking about anyway. My previous post is gone now anyway, I guess they did not link me linking to my photo... oh well.

    I think I will most likely use the center position with the belt.

    The nearest Babies-R-US is 115 miles away...
    I will check out Toy-R-US.

    I love'n our MDX! Awesome in so many ways!!!

    -James
  • kennynmdkennynmd Member Posts: 424
    I know we are far away from 2005, but does anyone know when will the MDX be completely redesigned? Or at least when is it due for a redesign. By the humming noise has a fix from Acura the 05 information will probably be released.
  • wmquanwmquan Member Posts: 1,817
    Honda/Acura is notoriously tight-lipped about plans for next year's model, so no one knows for sure.

    However, most speculation has a redesigned MDX coming in 2005 as a 2006 model. The idea is that the redesigned Odyssey will debut this year as a 2005, and the MDX that will be based on it will come after a year.

    We'll see if this really happens. Sometimes Honda/Acura doesn't do the logical thing.
  • gqfrommarsgqfrommars Member Posts: 16
    Does the new 2004 model have the brushed metal-look trim in the center console? I would love to get one with that.

    Can someone help me with this or have a pic of how the brushed metal-look trim looks like?

    Thanks in advance.
  • cjbcjb Member Posts: 1
    I purchased a MDX from Seattle MDX dealership about a month ago. I notice after just a week that the right rear passenger door rattles whenever I travel over rough roads. In addition, the molding wasn't form fit from the beginning. I have bought my vehicle in for service twice now with no resolution (molding is still not form fit and the rear right passenger door still rattles). The second time this car was serviced, we had the service manager ride with us during mid day. Unfortunately we could not repeat this problem. While driving home after work or early evening, I heard the rattle noise from the rear right passenger door. Has anyone else had this problem? It is extremely frustrating as this problem is not getting fix (molding as well as the rattle noise).
  • fndlyfmrflyrfndlyfmrflyr Member Posts: 668
    Mine is an 02, but I had a rear door rattle too. Didn't happen all the time. Turned out to be the seat belt. The seat belt buckle was twisted instead of laying flat against the side of the backrest.
  • mslanmslan Member Posts: 8
    When do you think Acura will announce 2005 changes for the MDX? When have they done it in the past for a new model year? I must consider whether or not to wait for them.
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