Lexus RX 300

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  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    3" wider makes it easier to hit deers.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    3" wider was the result of going with 17X8 wheels and tires with greater contact patch, more braking HP to the roadbed.

    That's what saved the doe.
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    Hey all. Can anyone share with me their experiences with the 15K service - what's essential, what's not, and how much they paid? I'm due for one soon and want to make sure I get everything done right. I've got an '01 RX AWD. Thanks in advance ...
  • sathomasgasathomasga Member Posts: 10
    I'd dearly like to think that the 75 lb limit was just due to the crossbars. I want to put a canoe on the roof and 75-lb canoes, although not entirely fictional, are either very small or very expensive. Unfortunately, I'm not a structural engineer, so me having a look isn't particularly meaningful. (My wife will tell you that I'm common-sense challenged as well.)

    I'd buy the rollover rating theory if the 75-lb limit was from Lexus, but I'm not sure what Thule would have to gain from being overly conservative. The 75 lb spec glares out at you when you look through their documentation for all vehicles. (Even the REI salesman couldn't keep from expressing amazement over and over again.) So Thule's got a lot of incentive to spec something more than 75 lbs. (Their marketing collateral for option 2 even makes a point of being able to carry more than factory racks.)

    Like I said, could be that they're just conservative. Maybe they couldn't get Lexus to verify more than 75 lbs so they're playing it safe. I suppose it could also be a simple error (cut-and-paste?) The Yakima rating of 125 lbs suggests one of these explanations.

    Still, I'm not ready to test out the theory yet. Especially considering that canoes need to be tied down *very* firmly at the bow and stern, which will certainly add extra stress to the roof.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    hmmm, my old ABS tandem whitewater boat I got in '74 was under 70 pounds. A 17' Old Town Tripper wasn't much over 80 last I looked. My van factory rack is rated for only 60 pounds iirc.

    I hauled a 17' light lay-up Dagger tandem (~60#) 32,000 miles in '99 on a Yakima setup (separate towers and bars from the factory stuff). I tried the Yak rack mount bars and my roof flexed under load on my rig.

    I agree that some extra capacity is needed, and most factory racks, in my limited experience, don't provide enough. Too bad the Yak and Thule stuff is rather pricy.

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The Edmunds Maintenance Guide will suggest what we think you should have done and how much you should pay for it.



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  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    Nothing like $158 for an oil/filter change, a tire rotation, and inspecting all them important bolts that never seem to need a re-torque because their paint seal is never broken when the service is over...

    But at least you can take the loaner (ask for an IS300) to a local autocross rally if you schedule your maintenance date properly and have some darn cheap fun...
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    Steve: Hey thanks - I had forgotten about the maintenance guide. We love the RX so I don't think it's too bad - $138. Besides I really want them to check the brakes and rotate the tires. And I also want the TSBs addressed.

    Jeff: Last time we got an oil change we got an IS300. I have to say it is too small for my taste. And it was kinda dirty - so it detracted from what could have been a nice interior. Nice ride though. This time I'm gonna hold out for a GS loaner - think that's possible? Hope so.

    Thanks for the help!
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    One of your owner's manuals clearly defines the factory recommendations for the 15K service. I just did the 15k on my 01 AWD RX300, 6 qts of mobil 1 $25 (not all went into the RX), a Lexus oil filter and gasket $18, the A/C pollen filter $37, windshield washer fluid $0.25, personal labor and peace of mind, priceless.
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    Thanks willard. I could save money by going to my own mechanic, who is excellent, but I do want them to address the TSBs as well. The RX is otherwise trouble-free but since I plan on keeping it long-term, I want to make sure the proper maintenance is performed.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Would you mind letting those of us who are staunch DIY'ers if there are any TSBs?

    The only thing I can think that might be outstanding is the DRL high beam bulb sooting/failure problem. Lexus will be forced to acknowledge it sooner or later.
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    i hate to give in to a topic you pontificate about endlessly, but even I am beginning to believe you are sincere about wanting the RX to improve. I found the TSB on headlights in Steve's link - Edmunds really is very helpful. I did a search on my MY RX and came across the following link:
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    http://applications. edmunds.com/maintenance/MaintenanceServlet? step=step4&year=2001&make=Lexus&model=RX+300& style=4WD+4dr+SUV+%283.0L+6cyl+4A% 29& popup=current#2


    You will notice that TSB 2 relates to the headlights. I don't know if this addresses your DRL issue but I'll check later. So as much as I want to save money I will have Lexus do the 15K service and checks all TSBs as well.

  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    No way, dude!

    Home Depot, Lowe's, Do-It Center, etc.

    Furnace filter, 20x25, $7 for the good one. Cut into 4 equal pieces. Wrap along edges of each piece with duct tape. Fits perfectly into RX filter slot behind glove box.

    WW, I am surprised. Very surprised.

    Next, you'll be saying the HVAC system smells Spring Time Fresh.. and...dare...I...whisper...the...words...the RX AWD is OK for most buyers...no No NO - say it ain't so!
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I seem to recall a mildew discussion in here - before I go on an extended search, perhaps you can help?

    steve_ "Mazda Tribute/ Ford Escape problems" Aug 8, 2002 12:01pm

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  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I went the Home Depot/Lowes route for my in-cabin filter. My OEM filter had that carbon or charcoal stuff in the pleats and did a better job than the "paper" furnace air filter that I stuck in, at least with filtering smells if not dust. One day I'm going to spring for the ~$60 "real" replacement.

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  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    ...you need to get some of those "clean carpet" pellets from your supermarket, the kind that you throw on the carpeting before you vacuum and it sucks up all the odors and leaves a nice, clean smell. Probably made out of baking soda and scent chemicals.

    Just spray some 3M adhesive over your Lowe's homemade pollen filter and dust it with the pellets, wait until it drys for a few minutes, re-insert into your Lexus or other fine vehicle, and you're set for 6-12 months. All for under $10.

    No need to "pay" for the free expresso and croissants at the Lexus dealership by paying $37 for a single pollen filter.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    $37 is cheaper than the Nissan one, but after reading more detail about AC and mildew courtesy of Wwest, I'm thinking of blocking all my vents and taking the roof off the van with a sabre saw :-)

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  • raddboy41raddboy41 Member Posts: 249
    ROTFLMAO!!!!
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Well, it's pretty clear from reading Willard's helpful posts over in the Tribute board that vehicle air quality often leaves a bit to be desired. I suppose I could move back to Anchorage, where I didn't need A/C, but that seems more drastic than the sabre saw method (and I did saw a Simca in half with a sabre saw once, so I have some experience there!).

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  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    One of the things I really like about the Chrysler T&C is the rear quarter panel wing window vents that can be remotely operated from the driver's seat.

    Lot's of flow through capability at the touch of a button.

    That's also a bit of my conundrum finding my next SUV, one to replace the RX. The ML320 also has rear wing window vents but the X5 has rear torque biasing. Was hopefull of the Cayenne but who needs that kind of HP/price in a mid-range SUV?
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    At the moment I have an engineer working on a POWERED exhauster port for the RX, will likely work with the HL also. Hoping to market it in competition with the airsept eed.
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    C'mon Willard, after the hundreds of recommendations you've made for people to get an ML, X5 or T&C over the RX, you're not going to buy one yourself? I personally think you'd be very happy in an ML. When you get it I'll be sure to visit you at the ML forum ... daily ;-)

    *Why do I get the feeling you're gonna buy the RX330?*
  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    Since you find fault where others find no fault (or, more likley, simply don't care), why don't you have that engineer you hired build you an ENTIRE new SUV to your own perfect specs - and then the world will beat a path to your door and those "single-marque brands" like Lexus will simply go out of business.

    Start off with a 10-HP defroster blower. That outta do it.

    "Willard's Wonderful World of SUVs" - how it doth roll off mine lips.
  • mooretorquemooretorque Member Posts: 241
    I've removed both front and rear glass from wifey's RX. Ventilation: excellent. Compliance with speed limits: excellent (only once or twice did she look like Col. John Stapp in the rocket sled before she slowed down.

    Steve, just curious, but why did you saw the Simca in half?? Increase power to wt ratio?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Teen-age lark and I happened to own a saw - the owner wanted to shorten it a foot and switch the brake lines around so it'd do nice donuts in the parking lots. Sawing it in half was about as far as he got. I occasionally wonder if that guy is still alive....

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  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Have you been reading my mind?

    While reading the most recent Business Week "Jeep's identity crisis" it did occur to me that right now might be an excellent time to enter the SUV market.

    "Jeep" has clearly lost their way.

    Both the RX and the HL are more minivan that SUV.

    The Cayenne is "way" overdone, too much "off-road" and BIG HP stuff and over-priced for where the current SUV market lies.

    The ML320's styling is un-inspiring, is a tad over-priced for the market, likely because of the name and the cost of the useless low range gearbox.

    The X5 3.0 has the perfect AWD system but is WAY over-priced and there is no way to avoid that ugly two-tone, Black and xxx, interior.

    With a few simple modifications and styling touchups here and there Chrysler has the perfect product for this mid-range SUV market.

    Start with the base AWD T&C. Add VSC and TRAC, a Bose sound system, a leather interior with "gathered" leather on the seats (like they show in the brochure but don't actually produce), HID bi-level headlamps, a powered exhauster port, an automatic climate control system designed by Delphi, price it in the range of $45k or less.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    My most recent thinking has been along the following lines.

    The 94 Ford AWD Aerostar is now gone so I must make some sort of reasonable 4WD/AWD arrangement on the prospect that we have a hard winter.

    I'm thinking of looking into a one year lease on an X5 that I can convert to a purchase if the RX330 doesn't have a reasonable AWD capability, or in the alternative enough rear tire clearance such that chains may be used.
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    ""Start with the base AWD T&C. Add VSC and TRAC, a Bose sound system, a leather interior with "gathered" leather on the seats (like they show in the brochure but don't actually produce), HID bi-level headlamps, a powered exhauster port, an automatic climate control system designed by Delphi, price it in the range of $45k or less. ""

    A $45K minivan? Did you hear that, Chrysler? You're sitting on a goldmine!

    You are seriously overlooking a lot of good candidates. Even you have spoken better of the Sequoia.
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    In fact, I can seriously see you in a Discovery or Range Rover.
  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    Daimler-Chrylser announced today that the SUV market has become saturated and they want to design exciting cars again for people.

    Honest, that's the story in one of this week's Wall Street Journals.

    Which proves that truth is stranger than fiction.

    And, often, a lot funnier.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Isn't that Totoya's version of the Chevy Tahoe or the Ford excursion?

    I have spoken very highly of the sequoia's "virtual" AWD system, I know absolutely nothing otherwise about it.

    And I think you're exactly right, DC is setting on a veritable gold mine and is totally unaware of it. So how do we go about telling them?

    Discovery, Uppie piece of junk.

    Don't even know what a range rover is, is that kin to the range rider?
  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    ...just not too sure of what an "Uppie" might be.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    ...just not too sure of what an "Uppie" might be.

    I'm guessing it's either a form of "uppity" or a play on "yuppie!" :-)

    Don't even know what a range rover is, is that kin to the range rider?

    It's an anglicized form of the affectionate appellative "Rover" given to dogs in the Plata River region between Argentina and Uruguay! The caballeros are the riders whom the dogs accompany. :-)

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  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    My alternative name for folks that only snipe others on these forums rather than contributing actual content.
  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    And, Willard, please don't confuse "drivel" and "filler" with "content."
  • danny29danny29 Member Posts: 4
    I'm considering buying a RX300 in the northeast. Several of the dealers that I've contacted said that over 95% of the RX300s shipped to the northeast are fully loaded (premium pkg plus, and wood/leather steering, hi-intensity lights, heated front seats, spoiler, wheel locks, and cargo mat). Is this true that Lexus manufacturers build them fully loaded so that you can't buy one without some of these options? The quote I'm getting is between $36k to $37k. Is this a good buy?
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    $36-$37K for a fully loaded RX is a good price for such a vehicle you mentioned. I got the same one. Keep in mind that the RX330 is due out next April so if you want a new model, you should put that under consideration. From the spyshots I've seen, it should look boxier (like the upcoming GX450) than the current RX. Personally, I would buy the current one. It looks totally unique and there's nothing else like it. It'll also look good 10 years from now (I imagine). Also the new model may command a price premium over the current one.

    If you want to delete options, you should speak with the salesperson.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    This might be an absolutely excellent time to try an alternative (your next-best choice?) to the RX. In 2000 I was going to trade my 92 LS in for a new one. My Lexus salesman of ten years convinced me that since the new LS430 was to be introduced shortly (and he was convinced I would want one of those)it would be a mistake to buy the current model and then take a "bath" on the trade up to the LS430.

    So I bought a GS300 which he felt would have good trade in value since the GS wasn't up for a model revision anytime soon.

    As I just said a few posts back I am looking seriously at dumping my 01 AWD RX300 and getting an 03 X5 3.0, on the shortest lease term available. The X5's AWD system is absolutely the best in the mid-range/(weight) class of SUVs. The only thing I really don't like about the X5 is the price and the mixed inerior color, BLACK and "whatever".

    With a short term X5 lease I would be safe if this next winter turns out to be as harsh as some are. And I would be free to switch back to the RX in the short term.

    Assuming the RX330 arrives with a much more adequate AWD system, say a clone of the Sequoia's (itself a clone of the ML). Or even an improved rear tire suspension clearance so one could use tire chains safely as a backup to the current (or future) "flaccid" AWD system.
  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    ...get the BMW.
  • bobfloydbobfloyd Member Posts: 32
    Thanks for breaking the chain of drivel that preceded your post.
  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    Bobfloyd, your turn.
  • fasterthanufasterthanu Member Posts: 210
    re: #5745 ...

    AMEN BRO !!!
  • mrrogersmrrogers Member Posts: 391
    www.carsdirect.com for a new AWD RX300 including the Premium Value Package and freight. I used zipcode 91311 for Chatsworth, CA north of LA. Invoice is $34,057. I wonder if your dealer will match this price? If not, how do you fell about a Los Angeles vacation? I really enjoyed a day at Universal Studios last year. The other option could be to negotiate with an LA dealer to ship the car to the Northeast for you. Concerning the "next RX330", I have a concern that if it is built in Canada, the build quality will not be as good as the current model built in Japan. I believe the paint is better in Japan than North America. My company car (2001 Buick Regal) was built in Canada, and the paint chips very easily.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Somewhere recently I think I read that the invention of the printing press was THE most significant invention in the past 100 years.

    Why do I get the impression that some of the respondents on this board have a high level of resentment for the ability to print books that they, individually, have absolutely no interest in reading?
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Just ignore the troll posts Willard....

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  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    Willard - the literary world was changed with the invention of movable type and its application to a series of known practices which were integrated into a method of mass production. The printing press had developed from the wine press in the Rhine Valley.

    It was there in 1440 that Johannes Gutenberg (c.1397-1468) began using the printing press in conjunction with a series of blocks each bearing a single letter on its face. The press used by Gutenberg was a hand press, in which ink was rolled over the raised surfaces of hand-set letters held within a wooden form and the form was then press against a sheet of paper.

    Gutenberg's name does not appear on any of his work but he is generally accredited with the world's first book printed with movable type, the 42-line (the number of lines per page) Bible, also known as the Gutenberg Bible or the Mainz Bible (for the place where it was produced).

    In three decades, printing spread across Europe where it became one of the chief means by which the Renaissance, the humanist re-birth of interest in learning and the classics, was transmitted from culture to culture.

    In time the printed book became a means of political revolution, the necessary technological corollary for the rise of the vernacular (ie. non-Latin) as a vehicle for literary texts, and the larger democratic revolutions of the eighteenth century.

    Then, about 500 years later, Lexus invented the 1999 RX300 AWD model and the rest is history.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Credit where credit is due: http://www.iath.virginia.edu/elab/hfl0228.html


    Can we get back to the RX300 now?



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  • mbking1mbking1 Member Posts: 1
    It is my understanding that Lexus puts a protective clearcoat finish on all colors EXCEPT black onyx. Does anyone have any info on this? Please feel free to email me "MBKING1@AOL.COM" I need to make a purchase decision quickly. Thanks
  • jerlf55jerlf55 Member Posts: 5
    To all, this may be lengthy but I've been lurking for a couple of years. I've got an '00 RX and didn't buy it for off-road, or snow - live in Fl. As far as the A/C is concerned, never had a musty smell and believe me, I use the A/C 11 1/2 months out of the year. Love the way I can drop the seats, as with 2 adults & 3 dogs, they can get in the way-back and relax as we go to the park. I know other people who have Lexi and the RX in particular, and are very happy with our purchases. Looking forward to the new RX330. PS, all this talk about the other vehicles, let me give you what I found out, not being technical but just wanting something comfortable and 'user-friendly'. The X5- way too expensive and small. The 6 cylinder is slow, and with the 8 it pushes 55k. The MDX, well, I don't need seating for 7 - and no deals to be had - yet. Pilot- doesn't offer a sunroof and I need this for the dogs (ok, so they're a little spoiled). ML320 - tested this one, rides like an old truck, didn't like the cupholders or the 1/2 an afternoon it took to lower the back seats. OK, I'm done for now, any comments?
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