Lexus RX 300

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  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    with today's electronic fuel injection and fuel pumps to supply continous fuel pressure flooding an engine seems extremely unlikely.

    Intake valve stuck open?
  • ruskiruski Member Posts: 1,566
    that I got sludge
  • landdriverlanddriver Member Posts: 607
    wwest, with today's highly sophisticated intake valves precision engineered to exacting specifications by complex computer-aided design applications running on terahertz servers utilizing quantum mechanical technology multiplexed with the space-time continuum it seems highly unlikely that one would get stuck in the open position just as ruski left to go on vacation and thus causing his engine to flood...
  • bentwrenchbentwrench Member Posts: 27
    Fuel injected engines do not have an accelerator pump, the over actuation of which would flood a carburated engine. It is my understanding that depressing the "accelerator" only changes position of the air control in the throttle body. Air flow is measured to tell the injector system how much fuel to supply. Sounds to me like a timing problem ( computer)or possibly an error from the throttle position or other indicator. i. e. one of many sensors was lying to the computer.
  • nevernewnevernew Member Posts: 5
    Wwest, I'm inclined to agree with you that it's unlikely Ruski flooded a well designed fuel injected engine. Since I gave up carburetors, around 1985, I have never flooded an engine--including a Toyota Camry, Chevy pickup, Honda Accord and, of course, a Lexus RX300. Ruski, how long did you have to hold the key in the start position before your engine started? If it started right away and then began to shake, I don't think flooding is the issue. I hope you don't have a recurrence, but please keep us all apprised if you get a repeat performance.
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Thanks for that illuminating clarification! ;-)

    tidester, host
  • ruskiruski Member Posts: 1,566
    the engine started very quickly after I turned the ignition key. No extra cranking. Right after it started, it began to make banging and clanking noises and shaking.

    It runs fine now.
  • borg1of2borg1of2 Member Posts: 90
    I was just curious if anyone knows or is driving an RX with over 100K miles. Mine is at 62K and doing very well, except for a little engine or belt squeak. The RX is a little over 4 years, so I figured someone out there might have hit 100K.

    I am also curious about timing belt replacement and if anyone has done that maintenance on their RX? They used to say do it at 60, but I hear now you can go as long as 100K. Any experience out there?

    Thanks and Happy New Year
  • landdriverlanddriver Member Posts: 607
    Hey wwest, sorry if came off as mocking your assessment of ruskie's problem.

    ruski, looks like even I have heard more than I ever wanted to hear about engine flooding.

    All, hope you don't mind a Highlander guy contributing to your discussion, because even if you do, I will continue to do so!!! ;)
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    landdriver: You defend my participation on the HL board and I'll gladly defend yours here!

    Okay?

    Sorry, retract that, from my standpoint you're welcome here regardless.
  • landdriverlanddriver Member Posts: 607
    Hey wwest, thanks for the vote of confidence -- as you and I are about the only two who participate on both boards, I'll most surely defend your right to participate on the Highlander or any other board for the freedom to express your opinion (not that that will be easy the way things have been going on the HL board recently! ;) ).
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Everyone who follows the rules has a "right" to participate in any and all Town Hall boards. It's not an issue.

    tidester, host
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    but it's always nice to know one has friends amongst so many naysayers.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    "The RX 330 is the successor to the RX 300, still the best-selling Lexus model after five years on the market (without the use of incentives). And after spending several hours with the new RX, we have no qualms about saying to current owners: You'll love it."


    First Drive: 2004 Lexus RX 330


    Discussion here:


    Lexus RX 330


    Steve, Host

  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    The RX330 drops the inadequate, more expensive and uniquely T/L "flaccid" VC design, in favor of an ML type (brake, braking, implementation, via the VSC ecu) torque distribution and traction control system. As good as the Sequoia? Or too "soft" (non-aggressive) for the real world so as to accommodate the needs/desires of soccer Moms? We shall see.
  • albellalbell Member Posts: 185
    Why is there a separate forum for the Rx 330? Shouldn't there be one; it will make it easier and there is certainly enough precedent in the Town Hall.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The Lexus RX 330 discussion currently lives in the Future Vehicles board.


    At some point it'll get moved to SUVs or collapsed in this discussion. We're open to suggestions, but the RX330 seems to have some significant differences that would warrant keeping a separate board going.


    Steve, Host

  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Why not??
  • borg1of2borg1of2 Member Posts: 90
    I like the article, but based on all of the different variations I think we will be left buying the base car or a fully loaded vehichle, basically the same way they are selling the GX. It will be interesting to see what packages they put together and how they start shipping them into dealers.

    I also agree with a comment made in the RX 330 forum that they should continue making this overseas and not bring it here in the US.

    Time will tell.
  • albellalbell Member Posts: 185
    last peep from me on the subject. At least in other forums I follow, the updates/redesigns on vehicles are covered in existing forums, e.g., the MB E-class, Audi A6. For those of us who want to follow the evolution, it seems to make sense.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    True - we did that with the M-Class in SUVs. Anyone else have a preference?

    I thought this link was pretty interesting about the RX330 and Japanese automakers in North America.

    Steve, Host
  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    eom
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Well, until the 330 hits the showroom, the RX 330 discussion will continue to live in the Future Vehicles board. What's the ETA anyway?


    Steve, Host

  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Just a few moments ago salesman who I trust told me I could have one in April, his shop expects 5.

    Problem is I don't want the nav or the sunroof.

    He thinks special order might take until May.
  • avery1avery1 Member Posts: 373
    Seems to me these are two different cars. I vote for keeping the forums separate. If someone wants to follow both it is easy enough to do. If not, they don't have to wade through discussion of a vehicle that they don't have or are not interested in.
  • gsenthilgsenthil Member Posts: 154
    Makes it easy for people to decide to move to newer model or talk about common stuff.
  • kmhkmh Member Posts: 143
    As the moderator mentioned - the MB M-Class were kept together so I believe the Lexus RX class should be one forum as well.

    The discussion of the two vehicles in one forum will be beneficial to current and potential new owners alike. Thanks!
  • bigorange30bigorange30 Member Posts: 1,091
    separate from the 4Runner board. This model is already in production and they have still kept it separate here. Why should this not be consistent? I am not saying either way is right but it should be consistent.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Mostly we let the community create the discussions and direct the direction the topics take. That's why we were asking about preferences. Don't hope for consistency :-)

    Probably the best thing is to sit back and wait for the 330's to hit the showroom and see how the posts shake out.

    Anyone concerned that the 330 is going to mostly be made in Canada beginning in September and not so many built in Japan after that?

    Steve, Host
  • fantomfantom Member Posts: 211
    Keeping them together for now, and watching how the threads shake out, works for me. I'd like to follow the 330 impressions even if I'm not a potential buyer at this point.

    A new model, built in a new plant, in another country, will be a challenge. Some bugs are bound to occur, and I'd rather not be driving one. Let somebody else be "first on the block". The new pricing may be an eye opener also.
  • jeffmust2jeffmust2 Member Posts: 811
    has averaged 7-8 posts a day for the last year. The new RX330 board has averaged 1-2 posts a day since it started up. Probably can merge them without being deluged with messages.

    I think I have too much time on my hands.
  • mrrogersmrrogers Member Posts: 391
    Steve,
    I think Lexus needs to be careful about building cars in Canada if they wish to preserve the Lexus appeal. When the Lexus LS 400 arrived in 1990, it sent BMW and Mercedes back to the drawing boards. It was a superior car, and not based on anything else. The origial Acura Legend was the same way. Now we have Consumer Reports magazine recommending the Highlander over the RX300. Lexus can't sell the car based on performance, so they are left with visual appeal and feel. The paint finish of the RX300 is fabulous. Take a look at the paint chips on the hood of any two year old Canadian built Toyota Solara, and you will see that the paint is inferior.
    Lexus has to sell reliability, and yet they can't seem to fix the five speed autmatics in the 2002/2003 ES300's (see Edmunds ES300 board). So now they put the transmission in the RX330. Chuck Yaeger used to get paid to be a test pilot at Northrup. Are they going to pay RX330 owners to test the five speed automatics?
  • tidestertidester Member Posts: 10,059
    Here are the Lexus ES300 vs. Mercedes-Benz C240 and Lexus ES300 problems boards.


    tidester, host

  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    Ok, we'll try to get all the RX owners and fans together again starting today (note the revised title). Thanks for the feedback everyone.

    Steve, Host
  • kmhkmh Member Posts: 143
    Thank you, Steve.
  • kmhkmh Member Posts: 143
    Is how will we handle this when the RX330 HYBRID arrives in a couple of years (2005)?

    I'm very interested in the RX Hybrid especially with the promised performance and mileage gains. Oh, yeah, and it's nicer to nature, too!
  • nofeernofeer Member Posts: 381
    please provide a link, i'd consider a hybrid if the performance is good, i don't think about saving gas when passing a truck on the freeway.
  • sjohnson11sjohnson11 Member Posts: 37
    I'm sorta bummed about the hybrid, at first the speculations were that it would be out within a year, now they are saying within two years :( I really want the hybrid.
  • kmhkmh Member Posts: 143
    check out this link to the Toyota press release regarding the hybrid RX.


    http://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=69794

  • kmhkmh Member Posts: 143
    Yeah, me too, initially. I was looking forward to the hybrid by next year. But I can wait a couple more years and by then hopefully Toyota/Lexus will have this technology perfectly ready for market.
  • wolfxwolfx Member Posts: 72
    fully loaded it's $45,000 like the RX330, but current reviews (car and driver) put it up at the top of the mid-sized SUV list, beating out even the new GX470; that's impressive for VW's first outing, considering their reliability has greatly improved over the last 4 years...

    i think the RX330 needs to separate itself if it wants more sales, because reliability alone is not going to do it.. maybe performance oriented SUV? it obviously doesnt want to cannabalize GX sales, so it wont be "roomier", but it can at least satisfy the SUV performance market the way the Toureg is attempting to do (equals X5 in every performance category, while keeping up with the GX in every off-road category)
  • opus7opus7 Member Posts: 1
    What happened to the RX330 forum? Can no longer locate it - nothing in future vehicles forum
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    It's there, but recently made read only. Didn't you get the memo? :-)


    Lexus RX 330


    Steve, Host

  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Member Posts: 932
    The Touareg may be a good vehicle but let's remember the RX carries the LEXUS name. That can be a selling point to some.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    T-egg will do find with the avid off-roaders where weight is something of an asset.

    Personally I think the RX330 will astound everyone with the increase in sales level due to it's much better "looks" appeal, it's TRUE AWD system and increased gas mileage due to the weight loss of the truly useless VC system.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    The looks will sell it, the better mpg may help too if the gas wars hit, but I suspect the percentage of buyers who know or care about the difference in the '04's AWD system will measure in the low single digits.

    mho :-)

    Steve, Host
  • docevildocevil Member Posts: 10
    What kind of problems is Lexus experiencing with the 5-speed auto? And the exact same tranny from the ES goes into the RX330?
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Member Posts: 932
    The 5 speed transmission in the 4Runner doesn't have any reported problems. I'm not sure if its the same unit but at least Toyota has one great 5 speed automatic transmission.
  • docevildocevil Member Posts: 10
    But the '03 'Runner probably hasn't been out long enough for tranny problems to start showing up though.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    engine/tranny is North/South oriented, not very likely the same transmission.
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