Lexus RX 300

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  • pschiffepschiffe Member Posts: 373
    My 99 RX has FWD (front wheel drive, not four wheel drive) w/ TRAC and is prefectly satisfactory in winter conditions. I'm located in the Buffalo Niagara region which is no stranger to snow. I owned 4X4's for decades previously but the Lexus FWD negates any need for AWD under normal highway conditions in my opinion.

    Pete
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Hey, even a motorcycle works fine in those conditions, so why wouldn't a FWD?
  • fantomfantom Member Posts: 211
    Had to drive all around Detroit, in the snow (about 8 inches) for the last three days with no problems, in an '01 FWD 300-RX with regular Dueler tires . Wish I could say that for the vehicles around us.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Driving around in 8" of snow may really not be much different that driving around on 8" of sandy beach.

    Now, driving around on 8" of PACKED snow base is another issue altogether.

    If you can assure me that the snow isn't packed down and there isn't a layer of ice somewhere in there from the previous day's "melt" then I'd even take someone's HAZARDOUS FWD out for a spin in the snow, and I don't mean spin as in oversteer.

    Snow comes in an infinite number of "flavors".

    From dry powder, Salt Lake, wonderful skiing.

    To:

    Pacific boilerplate, Snoqualmie Pass, horrid skiing.
  • fantomfantom Member Posts: 211
    To say that a FWD Rex is hazardous in the snow is disingenuous at best, and libelous at worst (where is Lexus' Legal Dept when you need them?).

    Over several days we drove in all types of snow pack. I was reporting what I experienced, whilst it seems you are stating an opinion, wwest.

    Your driving technique has more to do with you being dangerous in snow than either how the snow is packed or if the Rex is RWD or AWD.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Would it help if I said that ALL FWD vehicles are hazardous in adverse, snow and ice, roadbed conditions?

    Now the automotive companies can pool their legal resources and come after me "en mass".

    But on the other hand maybe not since many of them are busily converting their product line, certainly the upscale ones, back to RWD or rear biased AWD.
  • jodar96jodar96 Member Posts: 400
    .....Engine braking and all that weight on the front wheels will cause FWD car to loose control.......I don't think so. The reason one sees FWD in the ditch more than other cars is that there is a very high precentage of the cars on the road today that are FWD.

    Hard braking with no ABS will send any FWD, AWD, RWD into the ditch.

    As message 7931 said: " The "AWD" RX300 has just enough drive torque, 5% native, coupled to the rear wheels so that Lexus marketing can't be called liers/"

    I don't understand why one wants to put 17" wheels on the RX, then add spacers behind the wheels so he can put chains on rear wheels that has only 5% of transfered power?????

    I am done with this for now.

    Joe
  • toydrivertoydriver Member Posts: 227
    We own a 01 FWD RX with 60K mi. I later bought a used '99 AWD RX, which I subsequently traded for reasons unrelated to traction. We live in MN - use to snow and ice (but better than average snow removal). IMO the AWD is clearly superior to the FWD for traction on acceleration and getting up steep snow packed driveways. They are equivalent in trying to stop on slick roads.
    The '01 FWD has snow mode (starts in 2nd gear) which helps accelerate on slick roads and VSC which prevents sideway skid. (electronic features not available on '99 models)
    Tires on FWD cars make a big difference - in general. I'm not that impressed with the Bridgestone Duelers in snow. Maybe Blizzaks or Michelin Cross Terrains would be better - my next experiment. All in all the FWD RX is adequate for driving in mostly flat terrain with usual winter conditions. However, considering the usual price differential I'd go for the AWD.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Well, on ice and snow, especially downhill, if I even lightly use the brakes my backside stays my backside, not like what would happen with snow tires, studs or chains only on the front, or sometimes even with more traction on the front due to engine weight.

    And the rear chains add a rather significant amount to the circumference of the rear wheels vs the front. I'll leave it to you to figure out how that helps.
  • mooretorquemooretorque Member Posts: 241
    "The '01 FWD has snow mode (starts in 2nd gear) which helps accelerate on slick roads and VSC which prevents sideway skid. (electronic features not available on '99 models)"

    My '99 AWD with LSD had/has SNOW mode; presumably the FWD does also since it would have less tractive ability even with the older TRAC system. And I doubt that it was a "running change" to the model line since I bought the car in May of 98, about 2 months after intro.

    And the Michelin CTXs were much better than the Goodyear (other than the fact that they fit over the rims, I don't know how these can be called tires) Integritys in all respects, snow included. No experience with the Bridgestones that were a later OEM switch.
  • toydrivertoydriver Member Posts: 227
    Interesting info about your '99. My '99 AWD had the TRAC button located where the ECT/SNOW button is on my '01FWD (next to the gear selector on the console). There was no ECT/SNOW button on my '99, but I remember it had the LSD as a option.
    I believe it was an "early model" '99 also, but I don't have it anymore and can't remember when it was manufactured. The VSC was introduced on the RX '01 models prior to the "silver sport" trim model.
    The '99 AWD with worn Goodyear Integrity tires (50K) was better in the snow than the '01 FWD with brand new B'stone Dueler H/Ls.
    Don't get me wrong, I didn't think the Integritys were very good, just the AWD made up for the difference.
  • hightoptennyrxhightoptennyrx Member Posts: 23
    Hi Rockyball --

    I was wondering if you received the updated Nav DVD, and what your thoughts are on it? Does it have any new and exciting features? I'm holding off purchasing until I hear your reaction. Thanks a lot.
  • mike2000rx300mike2000rx300 Member Posts: 1
    I've just purchased a Pre-Owned 2000 RX300. When having it inspected at my local Lexus dealer, they informed me that I need a valve job, that this was a known problem and pretty common. Good news is that there is still a few months left on the manufacture warranty. My optimistic side is glad to have such significant work done (almost a new engine) without any financial risk to me. My cautious side wonders what else will go wrong. Has anyone had experience with this valve issue? Is there anything I may request from Lexus?....extending their warranty perhaps? Thanks for the help!
  • tccctccc Member Posts: 13
    I have a 2000 rx with 73,000 miles and no indication of any potential valve problems. I'm not a mechanic, but you might have your mechanic do a compression check initially. Also a good gasoline additive like Schaeffer Neutra could help the problem. Neutra neutralizes harmful fuel deposits, lubricates upper cylinders and will dissolve varnish and carbon deposits.
  • rockyballrockyball Member Posts: 22
    Got it about 2 weeks ago and haven't yet had much chance to use it. I've noticed that the exit numbers for I-75 here in Georgia have been updated and Canadian highway info added. No other new/exciting features.

    I am hoping that Georgia highway info (new highways, etc) have been updated. At least I know I have the latest version.
  • toydrivertoydriver Member Posts: 227
    I'm not a mechanic either, but it sounds to me like "oil gell" problem that has been talked about so much with Toyota/Lexus 6 and 4 cylinder engines. They gave letters to original owners stating they would pay for repair one time if it can be shown that reasonable maintenance (oil changes) can be proven.
    Was your car a Lexus Certified pre-owned? If so, it has a 100,000 mi or 3 add'l yr warranty from the date of your purchase. If you bought it from Lexus and it wasn't "Certified", then there must have been mechanical problems that they noticed preventing them from certifying it. If not Lexus, then the original seller should have some responsibility to you. It clearly is not "normal" for any Toyota/Lexus engine to need that kind of work done at 39,000. The engine should be just getting "broken in" at that mileage!!
    I bought a used '99RX that started using significant amounts of oil after 50K mi, so I traded it. (Discovered the original owner missed a couple of scheduled oil changes early on). These engines need to have the oil changed on schedule (every 5K mi or less).
    I'd never buy a used Lexus that wasn't "certified", for this very reason.
  • hightoptennyrxhightoptennyrx Member Posts: 23
    Thanks, Rockyball, for your reply. I think I'll just purchase the update. After $36K, what's $288 more?
  • mooretorquemooretorque Member Posts: 241
    toydriver, I was one of the recipients of "the letter" in both of its iterations. The warranty is good for whoever owns the vehicle within the time/mileage frame. Iow, it "transfers" with the vehicle. And they are only asking for proof of just one oil change/year!!

    mike2000, obviously you are still within the original powertrain warranty. I'd still want to know from the dealer if your problem is due to oil gelling (sludge) or something else. Valve train problems are not common to the 3.0L V6, despite what the dealer claimed. (Even the gelling problem is not at all common; not sure what he's referring to.)
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    Only two possible reasons, 1, the valve seats are worn out, or 2, the valve stem bearing/sleeves are too worn.

    Worn or pitted intake valve seats result in backfiring into the intake manifold, and/or worn and pitted exhaust valves allow compression gasses to enter the exhaust and catalytic converter while still burning.

    Either of these would result in an engine ecu diagnostic.

    Worn valve stem bearing/sleeves usually result in high oil use, oil enters the compression cycle via the loose fitting bearing/sleeve.

    Either of these would be extremely unusual with A Lexus and even more so at this low mileage. Get a second opinion.
  • okiepokieokiepokie Member Posts: 1
    Hi wise ones:
    Has anybody changed the marker lights on a RX 300. Mine is a 2000 version, and I need to change the bulb on one rear marker light, and replace the other rear marker light housing.

    Unfortunately, I cannot figure out how to access the bulb and the screw that holds the light assembly in place.

    Before I spend some $$ on buying a chilton manual or something, would any wise ones here have any advise.

    PS. The replacement bulbs are available at Walmart, so I would presume that this won't be too difficult to accomplish.
  • pschiffepschiffe Member Posts: 373
    From what I can see from the exploded view in the Repair Manual, pg BO-5, it appears that there should be a single hex head bolt accessible from under the rear bumper. Removing this should allow the "Side Marker Light" assembly to be extracted from the "Rear Bumper Cover". The front "Side Marker Light", pg BO-4, appears to be retained in the "Front Bumper Cover" by a sort of push-in clip from the rear, might just pop out if you pry it. No text whatever that I could find on the subject.

    Pete
  • miller52miller52 Member Posts: 1
    I'm in the market for a used RX300. I live in Atlanta. I keep seeing great deals on RXs with AWD. They seem to be the lowest prices and be the slowest sellers. Is there a reason for this? Low gas mileage? Tire wear? Mechanical issues? Extra maintenace? Any basic information about the system would be helpful. Thanks
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    and don't understand why AWD's are slow sellers?

    Unlike a 4X4, you can't just take an AWD off into the woods, off-road, looking for the nearest still, okay?

    A former, long ago, Tennessean.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    In Oct. of 99 I wanted to buy a new AWD Chrysler T&C in the Memphis area. The only one's (3) that could be found anywhere "close" was in the Chicago area.

    Made myself some extra coins by bringing it to Seattle to sell last fall.
  • grapevinetxgrapevinetx Member Posts: 89
    lowers gas mileage and calls for extra maintenance. Folks north of you (by a couple of states) snap up the AWD's even at higher prices because the pluses outweigh the minuses for many in the snow belt.

    As wwest alludes, the RX300/330 AWD system is designed to provide additional traction in challenging on-road conditions. 4x4 rock crawlers such as 4Runner are pretty different mechanically. There are a couple of threads on these boards that give the details on AWD vs. 4x4 systems.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    AWD 01 RX300, 30k+ miles, 235/65-R17s, round trip, 500 miles, Seattle to/from Portland, mostly 70MPH+, A/C disabled, 87 octane, 23.3MPG.
  • wwestwwest Member Posts: 10,706
    On the return trip from Portland the OAT varied from 43F to 45F, it was overcast and raining lightly the whole way.

    Upon leaving Portland the climate control was set to 72F and fully automatic. within 20 to 30 miles the cabin had apparently reached 72F as the system automatically switched to cooling mode.

    My wife and I were both discomforted by the cool airflow to our faces so I switched the system to footwell only. I can only imagine how much more discomforting it would have been were it "cool" and DRY airflow due to the dehumdification cycle of the A/C were it operational.

    By now the blower speed was at the lowest icon mark and we were both feeling fairly "chill" althought I am quite comfortably certain the cabin atmosphere was at 72F.

    Turning the heat up to 75F definitely increased our comfort level until the cabin air reached the new setpoint at which time the blower went back to low flow mode.

    After experimenting a bit I came to the conclusion that the best settings, wherein we were both most comfortable, was with the blower only one notch below maximum on the icon display, the setpoint still at 75F, and the airflow distribution set for footwell and partial defrost/defog/demist.

    At these settings the footwell airflow temperature was about 115F, the windshield airflow was 72F.

    AND.

    I WAS MISTAKEN.

    Apparently warming airflow can to some extent greatly overcome the chill the human body feels from radiant cooling (the lack of otherwise normal radiant heating, really.) on a cold sunless winter day.
  • johngreisjohngreis Member Posts: 70
    Just a point of interest.

    I'm in upstate NY and yesterday the local Lexus dealer ran a ad for some used cars. He had 2 RX300 year 2000's listed. Both were equiped the same except for 1 item. One was AWD and the other was FWD. They wanted $2600 more for the AWD. That is almost double the cost when new. Also, the AWD had a couple of thousand more miles on it.

    If this happened down South, the opposite would probably be true. Law of supply and demand.
  • avery1avery1 Member Posts: 373
    Any thoughts on timing belt replacement on a '99? Looking in the owner's manual I only see it mentioned at 90,000 miles if you are under "special operating conditions". The maual goes up to 150,000 miles. Is it really possible they don't expect it to be changed in the first 150,000 miles? I have heard some horror stories of other cars breaking timing belts.

    Obviously all dealers are trying to talk me into it but I have been doing only the service recommended by the manual and I don't drive in a way to put me into the special operating conditions category.
  • bentwrenchbentwrench Member Posts: 27
    The horror stories which you reference occur when a timing belt breaks on an engine termed an "interference" engine. This means that when the belt breaks and one or more valves are left in a fixed open position, the piston on its upward stroke will contact the valve(s), damaging the valves and possibly the piston. Hence the term interference engine. On a non-interference engine, design is such that there is still clearance between the valve and piston regardless of where in the cycle the valve fails open. Therefore no damage. The RX 300 is a non-interference engine and therefore no catastrophic damage on breakage. Just left stranded.
  • avery1avery1 Member Posts: 373
    Thanks for the timing belt lesson. For future reference is there a way to determine whether an engine is an interference engine or do you just need to ask? Also, is it normal for a non interference engine to not need the timing belt changed in the first 150,000 miles?
  • jpowerjpower Member Posts: 2
    I'm looking to buy a good used one. Any tips, traps, or tricks to lokk for?
    Thanks,
    jjp
  • bentwrenchbentwrench Member Posts: 27
    The Gates website, in their listing of part numbers for all automotive timing belts, show with an asterisk which engines are interference.

    http://www.gates.com/brochure.cfm?brochure=981&location_id=54- 0

    They suggest 90,000 miles to change. If I were planning on selling the car at 100 or 120k miles, I wouldn't change. If hoping to get 175,000 or so miles, I would probably change it once around half that mileage.
  • toydrivertoydriver Member Posts: 227
    If you drive in snow get the AWD rather than the FWD.
    The '99 was the first model yr. Mine seemed to have more "issues" (bad strut mounts needing replacement, transmission hesitates to shift while engine cold -minor issue) than later models.
    If you can afford to go to a 2001 model, I think they had worked out any bugs by then and added some nice standard features like vehicle skid control and auto-dimming mirrors. Also, before you buy, make sure all the oil changes have been done as suggested in the manual. (Lexus dealers should have this on computer for any maintenance they perform). There are reports of engine oil gelling-sludge which has been talked about on this post (maybe rare but very costly problem). Probably wise to buy from Lexus as a "Certified" because of the extra 3yr or total 100K warranty. (I think they only certify vehicles with less than 60K mi)
    My 2 cents worth.
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    A former, long ago, Tennessean

    Me too Willard. Scary, isn't it? :-)

    Jpower, check out the Buying Articles here.

    Steve, Host
  • jmweijmwei Member Posts: 2
    I recently purchased a 2001 Lexus RX300 with navigation system and 31K miles. When I insert my key in the ignition (without starting the engine), I hear a constant loud buzzing. Once I start the ignition, the buzzing disappears. If I turn off the ignition and take out the key and reinsert the key, now there is no buzzing noise. Is this normal? Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
  • avery1avery1 Member Posts: 373
    Every now and then I hear a faint grinding and clicking coming from the right side of the dash area in my '99. I have turned off the A/C and music system and still hear it. When I called the service dept. they said it might have something to do with the passenger air bag. They say it always does it just gets louder with age. If it does it continually then I will need to have it worked on. Just want to see if anyone else has had this problem.
  • hightoptennyrxhightoptennyrx Member Posts: 23
    I also have the buzzing sound coming from under the hood when I insert the key without starting the engine. While under warranty, I had it checked out at the dealer. They were "unable to duplicate." I'm hoping it's not important, because my 2001 AWD w/ Nav has 60K miles, and the warranty is up! It's still a nice car.
  • jiaminjiamin Member Posts: 556
    My 00 RX does the same. I guess it's normal.
  • jmweijmwei Member Posts: 2
    I did have the dealer look at it but I also got the "could not duplicate" routine. If it's normal, I'm surprised the techs as well as the service consultants had not heard of the problem before (or at least that was their indication to me). For those that also have the buzzing noise, does it occur every time or intermittently?
  • jiaminjiamin Member Posts: 556
    Mine does every time. Kind of remember after 1 or 2 minutes the sound disappears.
  • jrdowneyjrdowney Member Posts: 96
    I have a 2003 and I have heard a quiet sound on the driver's side near the air vent. A faint click followed by a rush of air. Not real noticeable unless the radio is off and road is quiet. I think it sounds like a relay or switch cycling. I assume its normal. Not sure if this is what you are describing or not.

    Jim d.
  • jiaminjiamin Member Posts: 556
    I again tried on the 00 RX parked overnight in the garage. Inserted the key without turning, Buzzing Sound started and after about one minute maybe 40 seconds, the Buzzing Sound stopped. Tried it twice with the same result.

    Popped up the hood and listened. hard to tell where exactly the sound comes from. Maybe a little towards the driver side. It could mean something is initializing...

    My car does not have any problem so I don't bother to call dealer. I already noticed this after the purchase and never thought it was a potential problem.
  • jodar96jodar96 Member Posts: 400
    We have a 2001 RX FWD with 61K, and it does make the sound too. Sometimes, when I insert the key in ignition, and ALWAYS when I turn the key to on position.

    Someone said, when he starts the engine it stops, I am not sure if it stops or the running engine just burries the buzz. My guess is that it has something to do with the ABS/traction control unit.

    I hope Lexus people are not telling people they can not duplicate it because they know it exists but they don't to tell people it is NORMAL.

    I just want to know what it is. If it is normal, it should only come on when the key is turned to ON position and not when it is inserted.
    Next time, I will check with key inserted to see how long it will go on.

    No vehicle should be making any noise sitting in your garage with key inserted in igntion ......well not if it is a Lexus anyway.

    So far.....Faint flickering lights and buzzing sounds are normal.
  • 220bruce220bruce Member Posts: 2
    Popped the side wall on one Continental ContiTrac SUV tire on my 99 4WD RX300. The Lexus Owners Manual says that you only need to match the tire size & type. (i.e. radial). Will it damage the transmission if I replace only 1 tire? Will it effect the handling?
  • rparisrparis Member Posts: 368
    The buzzing sound with key inserted is normal. When I first got my 2001 RX I had it checked. Unfortunately, I do not recall what the service manager said it was other than being normal. Also, I usually only hear it when the vehicle is in the garage due to accoustics. Nothing to worry about.
  • jiaminjiamin Member Posts: 556
    Tried it again: just unserted the key with no turning, buzzing sound lasted about 40 seconds and stopped; inserted key, turned it to "ON" then turned it back to "OFF" but still left the key in, buzzing sound stopped immediately.

    No matter what it is, it's normal to me.
  • 220bruce220bruce Member Posts: 2
    The Lexus Maintenance Schedule I down loaded recommends that you INSPECT the timing belt at 90,000 miles & every 15,000 miles thereafter. Only replace routinely at 90,000 if the vehicle has been used a great deal at low speeds and stop and go driving, i.e. taxi, deliveries, etc.

    My question is: How easy is it to inspect the timing belt?

    What is one looking for?
  • grapevinetxgrapevinetx Member Posts: 89
    Whether it's wise to replace just 1 tire really depends upon how much tread is left on the other tire on the same axel. Mixing a new tire with one that is 50% or more gone is likely to cause handling problems, in fact the tire shops may be hesitant to do it.

    Is the popped one on the front or rear? When replacing only 1 or 2 tires most tire shops will also insist to put the new on the rear, moving the current rears to the front if your popped one is a front.
  • grapevinetxgrapevinetx Member Posts: 89
    Cracks and/or fraying are the classic signs of a worn belt. Belt life is measured in time as well as miles, and I've seen broken belts that didn't show signs of wear prior to breaking. If I were headed out for a vacation, road trip, etc, and the belts were over 6 years old, regardless of miles, I'd change 'em.
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