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I have a 23.5ft sailboat (2750lbs, approx) and 1100 lb trailer for a total of close to 4000 lbs. I'm sure you know the PF's tow capacity is 5000 lbs (with auto trans)...this was a major parameter in my purchase decision. The real test will be pulling it up the ramp out of the water and I will try that in 2 weeks when I put her in the bay (I'll do a test right away to see how the PF handles it). I expect it to pull it up no problem...and I have 4LO to help if I need it (I'm sure I'll use it).
I have never had any problems at all with the SUV but we have found the front seats to be very uncomfortable on long trips (3-4 hrs). The back seats are even worse.
We like the ride of the PF and the upgraded engine sounds great - have they made them any more comfortable?
We have an XE and had leather seats put into it on our 98.
It was in my 99.5 PF LE which has essentially the same seats as my 2001 PF LE except it did NOT have the lumbar support. I am 6'1" and 195 lbs, so I am not comfortable in very many car seats for very long ( I also have occasional lower back pain).
With 2 one-hour stops on route to stretch the legs and back, I found it very comfortable driving for extended periods. I could have used a little more thigh support (seat cushion extended) and more aggressive lumbar support. It also tended to get a little "hot and clammy" on the back and butt after a few hours on the leather seats.
My 2001 has solved 2 of the problems with an adjustable lumbar support and perforated leather. Trips up to a few hours (Calgary - Banff, Calgary - Lake Louise) are a breeze. I'm looking forward to my first long trip in this truck.
I just wanted to update everyone on what's going on. Thank you also for responding.
Basically, I called the sale manager yesterday and told him that if I was not satisfied with the way he fixed my car, I would not accept it and I expected him to order me a new one. He tried to BS me and tell me that it was too late because the contract was signed already, plus they had already registered the car and gotten new license plates for it. I told him that it didn't matter, I didn't really care what paper work was sent out already, if I was not happy, I would not accept it. He told me to call him back today.
I called him up this morning and he basically told me that the car would not be available until next Monday, and because I couldn't decide until then if I would accept the car or not, he put a stop on the paperwork. So, now I just have to wait to get my money back! Oh well! Back to square one!
For what it's worth, I just finished a 4,400 mile trip around the county in 10 days in the 2001 Pathfinder LE with leather seats. Some days were in the 12-14 hour range with only stops for fuel and munchies. I have two things to say: 1. I was thrilled with how comfortable the seating was! and 2. Texas is a VERY big state!
Captain Ron. . .
PS: I have 8 bolts in the plastic guard and one plastic clip-thingie. 4 in the back, 1 on each side and 2 in the front. The plastic clip is dead-center in the front. I've changed the oil and filter twice already in 2 weeks!
This looks like a knowledgeable and helpful group so here goes...
I am considering a Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo and Nissan Pathfinder but am leaning toward the PF due to reliability, safety, and competitive price.
My main questions concern deciding between the SE and LE.
Seems like you can equip an SE for slightly less than an LE though only the LE offers the All Mode 4WD.
Any major differences besides trim/exterior changes to consider?
Is the ride quality any different?
I like the styling of the SE but have heard concerns about an outdated 4WD that is not for fulltime use (such as the AWD on the LE). This is not really that big of an issue to me since I don't plan on doing this alot but it would get put to some use.
Anything else to consider?
Thanks!
Tom
Did I mention that I really love this truck?
Retail LE $31,799 (SE $29,349)
LE standards are
Sunroof (SE option $1,099)
Auto trans (SE option $1,000)
Auto temp control
Auto headlights
Home link (SE option)
Outside temp and compass (SE option)
4X4 LE all mode (SE shift on the fly)
LSD LE $240 option (SE needs sunroof package)
LE running boards (SE step rails)
Grille LE chrome (SE sport)
Fender LE body colored (SE titanium tinted)
Wheels LE 6 spokes (SE 5 spokes)
LE memory seats available with leather
SE rear window deflector standard
Visit www.nissan-usa.com for the details of all the differences. I think you get a lot more with the LE but the SE has a different look, which is a personal preference.
If you start adding any of those options you are now so close to the LE price that the extra features you only get with the LE make it worth it in my book.
The wood grain trim -- Really completes the elegance of the pathfinder's interior.
AWD - great for ease of mind
Drivers side memory seats.
The only reasons I would get the SE other than price are if you really want 5 speed or you are too tall for a sunroof. I happen to like the alloys on the SE better, but that definitely was not enough to give up the above features only available on an LE.
Other than options like that they are the same vehicle, no difference in suspension like other Nissan SE models.
I look forward to driving the new PF as we have been very pleased with the 98 other than the seat comfort issue.
thanx again.
I have driven the yukon. I think it was the LT trim, all leather sunroof, 2wd, etc. It was nice, drives smaller than its size would suggest. The engine felt sluggish to me and I left my test drive feelin OK about it - but certainly not blown away.
After all the hoopla on the message bds and the media, I drove the MDX. It was very comfortable, seemed wider than the lexus RX300 (which my father drives), handles much like a sedan, didn't have the pickup I was expecting from the engine. The second row of seats seemed alittle cramped to me. I have to admit that it didn't blow me away and the fact that you will probably pay MSRP and wait a few months (at least at my dealership) was not encouraging. I did not feel it was worth all that.
I just had a Sequoia overnight for a test drive and wife approval. I was very impressed with the fit and finish, loved the smooth engine, and size. Liked the fact that you won't see hundreds of thousands on the road. I tested the SR5 2wd with leather seats and while the leather is very nice and comfortable, i thought the stereo and dash was somewhat plain for a vehicle of this price. My dealer did come off the sticker ($37,800) a couple thousand dollars but I wanted to wait and drive a couple others before buying it. It has definitely moved to the front of the list for my purposes.
Next week I am to drive a 2000 escalade coming off a lease with about 35,000 miles and see how that stacks up.
I will also drive the PF LE before I buy anything. We have a 98 and have absolutely zero problems with it and simply want a little more comfort and room, so I'll see how the new models fair.
All in all I will probaby end up with the PF, SEQ or escalade. I am alittle nervous about all the problems I hear with the tajoe/yukon allthough friends of mine have both an love them.
we'll see.
Glad I found this forum as it appears to be made up of respectable and knowledgeable members.
This past Monday we became the proud owners of a 2001 Pathfinder LE. It makes a fine addition to our other vehicle, a 2000 Maxima SE. Yup, we are Nissan fanatics!
The Pathy is Bronzed Grey with Charcoal Leather. Options include LSD, Cabin Microfilter, Hitch, Sunroof Air Deflector, Floor Mats, Body Side Moulding, and, did I state that lovely Leather package?
So far my wife and I are very impressed with the ride and handling, and of course we are familiar with Nissan quality, this being our 4th.
I haven't had the chance to get underneath and pull the splash shield yet to see the oil filter, but I do have a question about it. My owners manual states to use 15208 31u00, but when I went to my dealer today to swap some 15208 9e000 filters that I had from a group Internet purchase, the Parts Manager entered my VIN into his computer and came up with 15208 65f00 which he gave me. These filters are small and the information on the box indicates that they are for 4 cyl. applications. If they are in fact the wrong ones, the dealer will swap them for the correct ones. Can anyone clear this up for me? Thanks in advance.
I am looking at buying one, but I am hoping that the 2002 model will have 4-wheel disk brakes instead of the rear drum.
Do any of you owners have complaints about the wet weather braking behaviour?
Or braking in general?
Dano
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1. The Service Manual calls for 15208 31U00 "OR EQUIVALENT."
2. Two dealers I went to state that 15208 31U00 is being replaced by 15208 9E000. This is how it's listed in their computers.
3. The dealer that another member (meca2, I believe) went to has 15208 65F00 or 65F01 listed as the correct part in its computer.
4. The 15208 65F00 was designed for use in the Sentra (4 cyl) engine.
5. The mechanic at the dealership I went to said that 9E000 will currently replace all of the above part numbers. He states that the apparent discrepancy now is due to the residual supply of 65F00, and dealers who have computers which list this part as the correct one are in areas where they are trying to offload that inventory. Once they run out of 65F00, it will be replaced in the computer by 9E000.
6. The filter that came on my car from the factory was 65F01.
7. The 65F01 and 9E000 have the same diameter, but the 9E000 is longer. They both have check valves.
This whole discussion was triggered by my going to the dealer to get oil filters, and being given 9E000. After all that, I decided that the 9E000 was the way to go (especially the two dealerships in my area didn't even carry the 65F00 or 65F01, nor did they have them listed in their computer).
I currently have the 9E000 on my car, and it's the second one I'm running. I do not think it's bad for the engine. It is, in fact, a larger filter than the 65F00, and it also has a check valve, like the picture in the service manual shows. There's no way it can void the warranty, since the dealers are using it, and Nissan has its own internal documentation which indicates the 31U00 being replaced by 9E000.
Hope this helps!
--Howie
The rear drum brakes are fine. You don't feel any difference when driving in wet conditions versus dry. I had a Saab with 4-wheel discs and my LE brakes much better than the Saab ever did.
We also don't know what the 2003 PF will look like. It might not be so eye-appealing, so I am going to get myself a 2001 LE PF, because they are truly awesome SUV's.
Just a thought/opinion,
Aris
Thanks.
Tom
Maxima SE (Sport tuned)
Quest SE (Sport tuned)
Sentra SE (Sport tuned)
Pathfinder SE (no mentioned)
because it is the same as the LE
Nissan usually advertised the sport tuned suspension for their SE models.
I have the PF brochure and no difference is presented. I also verified their web site and only the Altima, Maxima, Quest and Sentra SE models have the sport tuned suspension.
I did check the service manual, however, and they make no distinction between SE and LE as far as suspensions go. There's a small difference between 4WD and 2WD, but not between SE and LE.
That difference, by the way, is that the 4WD rides 0.63 inches (1.6 cm) LOWER in the front than the 2WD with the same size tires (255/65 R 16). If you were to put 245/70 R 16 tires on both models, then the difference decreases to 0.12 inches (3 mm), with the 4WD still riding a bit lower. All other specs are identical, as is all the service work.
--Howie
Ron
This is where I come in ..I am interested in buying his SUV. Does anyone know how this process works? Can he or I negotiate the selling price/monthly payments directly with the bank holding the lease?, or do we have to go thru the dealership who leased the SUV?, which I do not want to do. Any suggestions/comments on negotiating the best price? before I call the bank? Is there any kind of help available on the Internet?
Thanks, Busik
No problem. Glad to help out. But one thing you might want to consider is to use the filter provided by your dealer. That way you can keep the receipt and be protected if any warranty issues arise.
Howie
I recently checked out the Edmunds.com True Market Value on what i plan on purchasing. I was truly stunned to see the TMV price lower then the invoice of the vehicle. That is truly stunning. The PF i plan on purchasing has all the bells and whistles(ent. system/nav. system/AWD/Leather/LSD) it is nice to know that with all those options, the price i should be paying for the car, including the options are less than invoice price.
Concerning #2042, check out the TMV pricing calculator on edmunds.com, it should help you get a precise figure on what you should be paying.
Anyway, hope this helped,
Aris
P.S. - This msg. board isn't as active as it used to be... Whats the problem? haha
and now a 01 QX4
read drum brakes: no complains at all.
as long as i know the brakes are more low maintenance than my 4-disk 95 maxima.
a 96 accord also has read drums, its been very satisfying and reliable.
so i've driven both types, its nothing that would concern me. not for my normal driving purposes at least.
I currently have a genie garage opener and have tried to program with no success.
2001 LE
Sierra Silver
AWD
Leather
Tow Hitch
Body Color Side Molding
Limited Slip Differential
Floor Mats
In-Cabin Microfilter
Sunroof Wind Deflector
I tried something kinda different that I thought might be of interest to some people. I'm sure some of you have heard of the "blast fax" method, where you fax the fleet manager at several dealerships looking for offers. Well, I did this but with a twist. I told them what options I was looking for & that I already had an offer of invoice price from the dealership I was talking to, $31,916, but that I was looking for offers below this. I didn't have an offer of invoice price yet! The fleet manager from a dealership called & said he had exactly what I wanted on the lot. He also said there is currently a customer rebate of $500 & a dealer rebate of $400 (which I knew about already) & that he would give me both of these. He said his invoice price is higher than what I was showing (imagine that) but made me an offer of $31,540 plus tax, license, & fees. Invoice price for this model w/ options is $31,916. I was offered $376 below invoice & $3,812 below sticker of $35,262... even though I didn't have an offer of invoice! The beauty of this method is that it was completely "no haggle." I went in that night, test drove the PF, they held it for a week until a loan on my condo closed, & then signed off on the numbers we had already agreed on. It couldn't have been more stress-free. I realize that the market is slow right now & that this might not have worked on a super-popular vehicle, but if you're considering buying I strongly recommend you give it a shot. Anyway, happy to be a PF owner with the rest of you guys...
1) I read in the manual that you can't use chlorine based disinfectant cleaners on the windows. Does this include Windex & other common glass cleaners or are those safe? I know on a previous vehicle with an aftermarket tint job that I owned I was told not to use cleaners with ammonia. But this tint seems to be smoked into the glass as opposed to a film. Also, what glass cleaner do you guys like (streak free, etc.)?
2) Should I wait 6 months or so to wax my new PF or is it ok to do it right away? I've heard before that you might have to let the paint cure first.
3) Has anyone used a K&N replacement filter or supercharger with their 2001 PF? If so, how does it feel... power & fuel economy?
4) On my previous vehicle I used Philips Super White headlight bulbs & loved them. I went to the store today to buy some for my PF but couldn't find them in bulb number "HB2" (as stated in the manual). In fact, I couldn't find any replacement bulbs with this number. Is there another number I should be looking for? Also, has anyone replaced the fog light bulbs with something different, maybe something better in fog? Just looking for ideas.
Thanks...
It's ok to wax a new car--everything I've seen around here says the paint is "cured" at the factory.
K&N filters do nothing for fuel economy, imho! <g>. That <g> is because you'll find lots of people who will differ with me. You should read through the posts in K&N Air Filters - Bolt on Power?
Check out Aftermarket Xenon-filled halogen bulbs while you're over there too.
Steve
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