Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see the latest vehicles!
Options
Popular New Cars
Popular Used Sedans
Popular Used SUVs
Popular Used Pickup Trucks
Popular Used Hatchbacks
Popular Used Minivans
Popular Used Coupes
Popular Used Wagons
Comments
I'm not sure whether this has been discussed here before but while I was on the plane from SD to DC, I happen to read an article regarding recalls and one of the listed ones was for the M-Class, for the seatbelt anchor - rear folding middle seat, for manufacture date of Sept.99 to Jan.2000. The NHTSA recall # 00V352 and MB 200100007.
Needless to say, I was very impressed. The ML has that same MB "FEEL" that all MB vehicles seem to have. My wife's Toyota Land Cruiser lease is just about up and I want to get her something with a little sporty flair but also with the capability of 7 passengers.
I saw a ML430 sport on the lot that I know she would love. Does anyone know if you can get the ML430 sport with the third seat option? How about the ML55?
Is there any truth to an upcoming ML500?
Thanks.
Since my centre rear position is very rarely used (maybe 12 times in the past 15 months), and my ML didn't appear to have the seatbelt chime problem, I put off going in for the recall fixes until Service A, which was done on Jan 30th.
Good luck and please keep us updated!
Please keep us updated as well
Drew
Host
Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket and Accessories message boards
all in USA dollars.
I sure others already have known this but, I just wanted to share for those who may wish to consider this low cost safety enhancement.
PS. I always thought the backup beeping, was some kind of expensive item and never had time to research it.
I waiting for my son to notice the Beeping later today, I certain he will hehehe
Scott
One of the E-class owners in Town Hall's E-class topic ordered and received his H7 Phillips VisionPlus bulbs from Fosmo. He remarked that Fosmo's service was a little lacking (and somewhat slow), but other than that, they were excellent. Since Fosmo is based in the UK, I think you actually get the European-spec bulbs that were in that bulb test, instead of the US-spec ones, which I don't think would be as good. >>
BTW, Beetlebug, must you quote EVERY single message in its entirety that you respond to? A simple one line would've surficed, especially since I wrote it only a few hours ago. I haven't forgotten about it yet ;-)
Drew
Host
Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket and Accessories message boards
As for the pictures, they're part of what makes this topic (as well as Town Hall) interesting and unique. You'll find many owner's club topics across this community doing the same.
Regarding chroming, , I've purposely kept it subtle and in line with other MB vehicles (i.e. door handles, trunk lid handle, grill). Many have done the same.
Drew
Host
Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket and Accessories message boards
I thought netiquette was to only quote what's needed to provide enough context for your reply. That's what I always do at last (not in this type of forum, but in mailing lists). Some mailing lists have footers and when people do replies, they sometimes include the footers when quoting entire msgs :-P
I thought netiquette was to only quote what's needed to provide enough context for your reply. >>
...and exactly my style. Contrary to what Drew said, I do not "quote EVERY single message in its entirety", I edit them and leave only the part I respond to.
On nested message boards, it is easy to follow a whole thread from beginning to end without having to scroll around. On this message board, it is incredibly hard to follow any discussion without quotes. I don't know why others don't do it, but it's common net practice.
The unwarranted criticism that I quote messages in their entirety is all about wasting bandwidth. If the original critic were so concerned about wasted bandwidth, he would do well to look in the mirror.
My review of Info Services so far: nice toy, not flexible enough yet to be of great practical use.
- Limited choice and flexibility of info items (those which exist, except for stock quotes and weather, are very general and not customizable e.g. 'news','sports headlines', 'financial headlines').
- Limited memory in the MCS restricts you to about 3 picks from the list of info choices.
- Takes up to 5 minutes to update info after you press the button.
- Works in urban areas with coverage only.
- Costs $135/year, and not worth that yet.
Just mirroring the web microbrowser capabilities of the TimePort on the MCS display would better meet my needs. This would also appear to be simpler for MB to implement and not require them to maintain a large Info Services infrastructure on the TeleAid website. So I'm saying I would actually like it to require the MB TimePort!
Drew: Get even. Post the frenzel series AND your fuzzy pix of your 328 cleaning compounds again. Maybe do it twice with a different comment this time.
Ometofu: >> Hell wrong with you Beetlebug62. Join other boring forum that doesn't have pics or M-Class enthusiasts... You're the one wasting the bandwidth with non ML related posts. <<<
Not! You are wrong, and out of line. Go meditate a while. Better yet, go get some food and you might feel better. Be careful not to spill anything on your car seats, however, or Drew will show his cleaning fluids again. Ome, may I call you Ome? Anyway, catch on, anything done to add clarity IS productive.
BTW, guys, we are mostly beyond the age of 300 baud modems. So this "extra bandwidth" you are sniveling about using amounts to, what? anywhere between a millisecond and maybe 1 second. No where near as bad as the drag you are creating with this bickering blather.
Lighten up!
...Tracy
Drew keep the pics coming, and thanks for all the help over the past 5 months!!!
Steve
Host
Vans, SUVs and Aftermarket & Accessories message boards
In Mid-season form. This facelift freshens the M-Class for the second half of its production cycle, before an all-new model is introduced in late 2004.
"Mercedes' US-built M-Class sport/utility vehicle is undergoing a major redesign prior to arriving in dealerships in October. Key features of the styling facelift and technical redesign include a revised front bumper with a differently shaped air intake and insets around the exposed corners of the vehicle (along with similarly modified rear bumper); a revamped radiator grille, headlights with projector-style twin circular lamps behind a clear cover; diamond style bi-chromatic taillights; outside rear view mirror mounted turn signal indicators; a completely reworked interior and dashboard; improved suspension and a more advanced AWD system. This falls debut will also mark the arrival of the ML400 with 250 hp and 412 lb-ft of torque from a twin turbocharged V8 diesel engine."
WOW!!!! can't wait to see it.
My posting style is common net practice, and it's always been considered good net practice to not waste bandwidth, regardless of how fast one's connection is.
Given the difficulty in navigating this particular style of message board, it makes good practical sense to use quotes.
Hell wrong with you Beetlebug62. ... You're the one wasting the bandwidth with non ML related posts. >>
I'd wager you violated a Town Hall Terms of Use with your above profane use of the language.
As far as wasting bandwidth, I've always been on-topic, except this thread which Drew broached to begin with.
Hookups: Do you know if you sign up www.milepoint.com, you can turn your frequent travel miles that you gathered from flying, phone calls and creditcard charges into 100% free magazine subscription like autoweek. That's how I got over 30 different subscription each year... check it out (be careful, is milepoint.com and not milepointS.com...
Can anyone suggest if ML 320 is worth over Acura MDX with touring? We are planning for the following in the ML320 :
M1,M7,Third Row,Bose Audio.
The dealer here at Jersey quotes around $39K.
Oh and by the way, GIVE IT UP Beatlebug! Drew makes one valid, and minor, critical comment and you respond with personal insults? I don't want to say anything I'll regret, nor get my post deleted, so I'll just say you're now invisible to me and hopefully everyone else here. Good Bye!
This including the current side marker that the ML has on the front fenders. It would be redundant to have so many turn blinkers. And if we wanted to remove the old side blinkers that may actually lead to two holes (in the location of the mounting point) left in the fender.
I would also like to add the mirror signal indicators on my ML but it seems more trouble than its worth.
-Chris
Drew
Host
Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket and Accessories message boards
For the record, as indicated in my signature, I co-host the Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket & Accessories message boards with my venerable co-host, Steve. This includes this (great) M-class discussion topic
As for chroming, all I have to say is that the only chromed parts are the door handles, the grill, the trunk lid handle, and the outlines of the taillamps. The rear mudflap stars are painted silver, and the MB stars on the brake calipers are accented with silver paint as well.
If you have any problems with the pictures being posted in this topic, feel free to discuss this with me via my e-mail address above, and I will see what I can do to rectify the situation.
Sincerely,
Drew
Host
Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket and Accessories message boards
You may also want to introduce yourself in the "Meet the members" topic in the M-class owner's club area.
Autoweek's text seems like it is describing the next generation M-class, for MY2005. AFAIK, the next generation 4-matic system will not be available till 2002, and it will first make its debut on the European-spec C-class. The Airmatic based suspension is also said to be in the works for the next generaton ML.
WRT projector headlamps, those look like the regular headlamps that we have right now, but with covers on them. The LED turn signals are certain a possibility though, especially since just about all of the other MB vehicles have it now. I'm not sure if it would be worth it to retrofit though, as Chris said. It will be mostly for looks too, since our current fender mounted turn signals do basically the same function.
Frank, any thoughts?
Drew
Host
Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket and Accessories message boards
If MB does decide to include volume/MCS controls on the next generation MLs steering wheel, does anyone know or think that this feature will be retrofittable to the 01 MLs? Frankly, this is the only shortcoming to my 430.
TIA for any insights. Regards, Bill
http://www.mercedes-benz.com/e/cars/g-class/g3_photo5.htm
-Todd
Drew
Host
Vans, SUVs, and Aftermarket and Accessories message boards
Also I am grateful to Kenyee for the marvelous suggestion. I would have never thought of asking for recommendations of particular service experiences.
In light of this knowledge, I would like to ask if anyone lives near or in Newport Beach / Corona Del Mar, California. We will be moving there sometime in the near future.
Looks like I can get a pair for around $25-$30 + shipping. If anyone's interested in getting in on the order, drop me an email at amiller@ucdavis.edu and I'll see what we can get.
Any feedback?
yickwo Feb 24, 2001 11:06pm
How often do you plan to tow that trailer and over what sort of distances. Would it be over those "off-road" sections? If you do plan to tow frequently and over fairly long distances, I think you may be better off with a body-on-frame vehicle such as the ML since towing puts quite a lot of stress on a unibody design. Over time, that could prematurely loosen/wear out things with a unibody structure. Does your trailer have brakes?
Since you mentioned that those off-road sections have bumps/ruts, mud and creeks, you may be better off with the ML, since the MDX is not mean for driving on those sort of surfaces where its softish suspension can bottom out easily and make all sorts of noises. Car & Driver TV stressed this and they showed footage of an MDX driving though the kinds of trails that you were describing above. There was on particular spot where the MDX bottomed out and ran into its bumps stops very hard. Ouch! You should be aware that a section of the MDX's exhaust pipe also runs under the rear axle, where it could be vulnerable to damage in those situations. BTW, the ML320 can't really climb over boulders either :-)
Good luck with your decision!