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Mercedes-Benz M-class (ML320, ML350, ML500 and ML55) 2005 and earlier



  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Not much talk about the new ML's in the Future Vehicles discussion. Apparently the MB Turbo is one of the best engines out there:


    moparbad, "Diesels in the News" #6, 5 Feb 2005 2:20 pm


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  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    The M-class has been available in Europe for a while with a diesel. Emissions and other factors have kept it from coming to North America.


    This Autoweek article claims that a diesel will be available in the M-class in 2006 (not this year), but only in 45 states where it can meet those states' emissions laws. California and New York would be two of the five states where it wouldn't be available.



    If it does happen, there are apparently at least two engine choices. They currently produce between 325-376 lbs/ft of torque, 188-221 hp, but might be tuned differently in the U.S.
  • lizclizc Posts: 4
    Thanks so much for that autoweek link. Do you have ANY idea on when exactly in 2006 they'll start taking orders for the NEW version of the ML in diesel then? will it be maybe already in the fall of 2005? ALso, do you know anything about buying a European spec version of it in the US for possible shipment to Europe? (that's where I live) I know they're available in Europe in diesel now, but prices are much lower in the US...Thank you for any information you can offer!
  • mercaramercara Posts: 291
    Forget about importing an European Spec cars. Very expensive and time consuming. When I moved back from England. I wanted to bring back a Landrover Defender 110 Diesel. I did a lot of reasearch and it's not practical.
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    Unfortunately, there is no accurate word on precisely when in 2006 the diesel will be in North America. It's all speculation at this point.


    I'm not familiar with exporting a U.S. vehicle built to European spec, to Europe, sorry.
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    I think lizc is asking about buying a European spec vehicle in the U.S. and then bringing it into Europe. As opposed to bringing over a European spec vehicle into the U.S.


    I can't imagine MB would make it easy, for obvious reasons.
  • lizclizc Posts: 4
    right, i was asking about bringing a european spec version from the US to Europe. but regardless of that...if anyone has any word on the diesel ML in 2006, i would love any info. Thank you!
  • do not have my owners manual..and when i startbthe car,,i get a wrench and a -7000 blinking on the msgindicator,,and then it disappears,,should i panic?,,cuz the vehicle runs great...the dealer i bought it from says its been service but im!
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    Gray market cars are a pain to fix when they break. Parts may not be available in North America, meaning a long down time while you are waiting for something to be shipped. The warranty won't be honored here either.


    Not to mention hassles trying to import it; it may not meet EPA or some specific safety regs.


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  • Seems like the R-class is MB's answer to 7 passengers, but I can't seem to find out if they're going to have them in the new M. Anyone know? Also what do dealers say the new M is due in NJ?
  • wmquanwmquan Posts: 1,817
    My limited understanding is that the 2006 M-class is NOT being released with a third-row option. And it probably won't be available in 2006.


    And there is even an open question of "if ever." There had been talk about alternative classes for third rows, or a stretched W164 (new M-class platform) chassis.


    The odd thing about it is that the W164 is bigger than the W163, yet the W163 has a third row option.


    One purely speculative theory is that MB wants to make sure there is no intrusion into the third row in severe rear-end collisions, and that the new unibody design may make this more difficult without increasing the overall size of the vehicle. Again, this is purely speculative and may be totally wrong. The Volvo XC90 supposedly has very strong measures to protect against third-row intrusion and does this with its unibody-based platform.


    Unfortunately, even if a buyer doesn't need a third row, lacking one puts the M-class more in Touareg/RX330 competitor territory than some other vehicles it competes with. Supposedly the next X5 will have a third row.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 11,042
    The UK-based Mercedes Enthusiast magazine is searching for an ML55 AMG owner as part of a feature on the M-Class. It would only involve answering a few questions and sending us a photo of you & your car - not a lot but we'd appreciate it and you get to see your name in print!

    Wherever you live, if you're interested or know someone who might be, send an e-mail to


    Need help navigating? - or send a private message by clicking on my name.

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  • Here in California we have two license plates, and I never installed the front one until a kind police officer reminded me that it should be done. (I have a ML500 '02.) My "fix it" ticket is coming due soon.
    So Mercedes kindly sold me the front moulding that fits my model for a mere $90. (Primed, I had to paint it myself. What do you expect for $90..?) But no attaching hardware or any kind of instructions came with it.
    Has anyone ever attached one of these before? There are dots on the front bumper to indicate where the moulding is to be attached, but with what? I doubt I could get inside or behind the bumper to attach a nut. It's really frustrating.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    Typically you drill a pilot hole in the bumper and use a self-tapping screw, like a sheet metal screw. MB has them if you can't find the right thing at Home Depot.

    - Mark
  • Thanks, Mark. Well, that doesn't surprise me. There's probably no other way of attaching something to a hard plastic bumper with no access to the inside. I just didn't want to deal with the concept of drilling into it, but drill I will.

    - Don
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    I worried about drilling the bumper on my last new car, but did it anyway. Later, I took the plate off for a period and was able to cover the holes with some small circles of colored tape. It looked better than the dimples.

    - Mark
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    I got this from another site, its all but confirmed:

    Release date is March 21, 2005

    ML350: $39,750
    ML500: $48,500

  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    "Eight years and a whole lotta competition later, Mercedes has finally readied that truck's successor. The 2006 Mercedes-Benz ML350 and 2006 ML500 are more powerful, handle better and offer more features."

    The Second Coming of the First Luxury SUV (Inside Line)

    And here's just the thing to toss up on the roof:

    Mercedes Introduces New Automatic Transmission — For Bikes

    Maybe the dealers will start tossing the bike in to sweeten the deals?

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  • xmf314xmf314 Posts: 154
    "Mercedes Introduces New Automatic Transmission-For Bikes"

    What's next - BMW introducing a new bike with I-drive?
  • steverstever Posts: 52,683
    That would explain the massive pile up on the bike path!

    First the BMW owners have to learn how to unfold them though:



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  • Mark,

    Do I need the special tool to disconnect the fuel lines? It's time for a filter change on my 2000 ML.
  • markjennmarkjenn Posts: 1,142
    Bikerider, I haven't done it personally - the dealer did it because I was having them do the TSB to upgrade the fuel filter.

    Typically, you can get these high pressure clamps off with screwdriver and cutters, but you're supposed to use a special clamp tool to put them back on. Sorry, don't have any better info.

    - Mark
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Anyone here get an invite to preview the new M-Class at their local dealer this week?

  • mark156mark156 Posts: 2,006
    Merc1, no, I didn't get and invitation to preview the new ML but I did get a solicitation to pre-order a new ML. I might consider one at the end of this year when I trade my 2002 ML500. A couple of other SUV's have popped to the top of my list.

    Also, I want to the see the larger "R" class. The new 2006 ML will not offer a third seat option. I have it in my 2002 and it really comes in handy.

    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • sg888sg888 Posts: 1
    I have the same probl. with my 2000 ML55 and my manuel does not explain it how to reset, I do turn off the ign. and somes times it appers again.Would ypou please how to reset it.
  • michael10michael10 Posts: 29
    I visited the NY auto show yesterday and stopped by the to ask the Mercedes contact a few questions about any information she had about a diesel option for the ML. She had absolutely NO info, not they are in discussion, maybe next year, its just a rumor, Nothing! and she did say a lot of people were asking her about this. How can she have NO response? Her answer was I do not know. You would think if you are going to have a representative on site she should at least have some useful information about the vehicle.

    On a separate note, the new ML did look very nice inside and out.
  • chumsaechumsae Posts: 61
    If she was very good looking I'd overlook
    her ignorance about the cars.
  • merc1merc1 Posts: 6,081
    Has anyone here tested the new ML yet?

  • mark156mark156 Posts: 2,006
    I haven't tested the ML yet but I heard a funny story yesterday. A very good friend of mine who lives in the state of Illinois has a very good friend who works at a "multi-line" dealer.

    Two new ML's were delivered at the dealership and one sold quickly. The new owner brought it back the next day complaining that the brakes were not working correctly. The new ML owner had to really step on the brake pedal to get the vehicle to stop.

    The dealer found that the brake assist was not installed. After the shock wore off, they decided to take the brake assist off of the other new one so that the customer would not have to wait for the part to be ordered. They found it to be missing too. The dealer called another Mercedes dealer who also just had two new ML's delivered and both of those didn't have the brake assist installed.

    Somebody was asleep on the assembly line in Tuscaloosa, AL!

    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • untrueuntrue Posts: 18
    Ridiculous! The brake assist only helps in EMERGENCY braking situations. This is a troll posting lies....
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