As much as I've always loved the 3series, I can't see paying the premium for a base 320i over the '14 Mazda3 S Grand Touring. The 328i should really start at this price point.
pommah, that's exactly what I said all along. I wonder if the base1 still has the straight-6? If so, that's the BMW to get, I think. I really consider the 1 series to be the old 2002 with a lot more power.
@rwatson: You can get the BMW 135i with the turbocharged 6. The base model 128i still has the naturally aspirated 6. Either of these cars are great (minus space issues in the back... too bad we don't get the hatch); in Michigan I've been seeing enthusiast
@rwatson@duck87 The 320i is just surprising to Americans cause you guys didn't get the 323i previously. That car's basically the 320i but without the turbo, the 0-60 times are basically the same. It's the stripper volume model BMW sells to people who wan
For that price, I'd much rather have the Volvo S60 T5 AWD or Infiniti G37 Journey. This value thing (or lack thereof) is getting a bit absurd with BMW.
@cotak- You're in North America, thus you're also an "American" Pertaining to your other comment however; you're right, people in the U.S. are a bit spoiled and want performance and options for a solid price or they just won't consider the vehi
Looked at purchasing one of these and was very underwhelmed. Had a 2011 328i and was spoiled. The new 320i was slow...coarse...loud...and unbelievably cheap inside in comparison. Light steering and a sloppy ride drove me away. Shopped the competition and the S60 and TSX both were better vehicles for me (in the low $30k price range). The 320i was nearly $40k with leather/roof/cold wx!!! The S60 (with incentives) was nearly $7k less...and it blew it away. The TSX was $10k less! I ended up with the TSX...while not perfect...definitely the best bang for the buck.
$35,000 for a stripped down daily driver is crazy...especially given other choices for the same price or less. That said, I sure the BMW drives well. Still its very fairly unexceptional in a very competitive marketplace. It the BMW badge is important to an owner/driver, this might be an appealing option. For almost the same price, you can get a basic, but dramatically more powerful and vastly better equipped Infiniti Q50.
As much as I've always loved the 3series, I can't see paying the premium for a base 320i over the '14 Mazda3 S Grand Touring. The 328i should really start at this price point. ++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++ You may be the only person to have ever compared and cross shopped those 2 cars. A Mazda 3 and a Honda Civic are closer competition.
I'd rather have a Focus ST and pocket the extra money. BMW has become a mass market producer of cars for the masses. Pretension is still here but sporting is not. These are cars for those who cruise the suburbs and shopping malls, not winding mountain roads.
Or u can shop smart and not get a brand new base model i got one with the sport package navigation the suspension upgrade and i paid all of 18k sure came with 60k kms but it runs like new sounds amazing handles better then any car ive driven and 7seconds 0-60 for 180 hp is very respectable and u can get just about as much power as a 328 by simply tuning the 320i which costs less then the upgrade to the 328 which no doubt does the same as the 320 and charges every extra add on so in the world of bmw its a fair price for what u get
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The 320i is just surprising to Americans cause you guys didn't get the 323i previously. That car's basically the 320i but without the turbo, the 0-60 times are basically the same. It's the stripper volume model BMW sells to people who wan
For that price, I'd much rather have the Volvo S60 T5 AWD or Infiniti G37 Journey. This value thing (or lack thereof) is getting a bit absurd with BMW.
Pertaining to your other comment however; you're right, people in the U.S. are a bit spoiled and want performance and options for a solid price or they just won't consider the vehi
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You may be the only person to have ever compared and cross shopped those 2 cars.
A Mazda 3 and a Honda Civic are closer competition.