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thanks, ash
-juice
-Bryan
-juice
Juice, you were impressed with my Explorer's lack of rear suspension intrusion into the cargo area. It looks like the new model is even better still.
Bob
but will the JDM auto-shifter ever make it to N.America? I read in one of the major magazines a few months ago that it would be in the Impreza Turbo (I still can't call it a WRX :-) ).
Dennis
By the way, I just checked the pages that showed the the new Impresa, and guess what? They've been yanked, and are no longer accessible!
Bob
Bob
Bob
Comments?
Bob
http://www.new-impreza.com/fhi_pictures.htm
I looked at the shots with a group of people and their comments were "close but no cigar". These may be early shots or shots of another distributor's model. Subaru has not released any official photo's of the U. S. model.
Stay tuned!
So these are not the actual US/Canada Impreza shots?
(well, we have hope!)
-- ash
The suspense is killin' me!
Bob
You know, I'm already getting used to the new look, before I've seen the first on in person. The wagons are even cute!
Yeah, I'm with Ken. Give us the flared, aggressive front end with rectangular lights from one of those spy pics.
On 2nd thought, if it's beautiful and fast, the wait list will be too long. Make it ugly!
-juice
Whether we a get the (base) turbo or the WRX turbo is something to ponder. SOA has said we will get a turbo. They have not said if it will be the WRX, however. This web site shows a silver turbo wagon with hood scoop and the WRX turbo sedan. Which one are we going to get?
Only in North America is there an Outback Sport. I would assume that the new Outback Sport will have the two-tone, bumper-body that the current Outback Sport, and all other North American Outbacks. That one change will create a very different look from what we see here. It will probably have a raised suspension and larger tires too.
Bob
But it could vary more than that. Look at the JDM Corolla with round head lights. The Acura Integra was indeed the other way around, and I prefer the Japan market model.
Outbacks dropped the scoop, so I expect our Imprezas may as well, except for real turbo models.
The OBS will probably get fender flares and the things you mentioned. Plus they all get the big engine.
-juice
I guess this means that there's still hope that North Americans may get the traditional rectangular-ish headlamps!! :-)
Drew
I can see us getting different grille inserts, and perhaps different bumpers. Notice that the home-market models have two different style fenders. WRX and DOHC 2.0 non-turbo have fender blisters. The base & turbo models did not. (I know that makes no sense, but that the way they were described.)
Also, note that all North-American Legacys & Outbacks are "wide-body" models, exclusive to the USA and Canada. Could we also be getting a "wide-body" Impreza?
Bob
I don't know if the track or interior dimensions are any different from those of other markets. I know that our Outback gets the larger 225/60x16 tire, whereas other markets get a smaller 215/60x16 tire. That may be the reason for the more pronounced fender arches.
Patti- can you help here?
Just before the 2000 Legacys and Outbacks were launched, I remember reading somewhere(?) that our (North American) models would be "wide-bodies." That was the term that was used.
Bob
Bob
http://www.thecarconnection.com/columns/caught/000814_CaughtPriddyImpreza.asp?idSection=02&idCategory=15
-Colin
Hopefully it won't gain as much weight as the Legacy did.
I think the track and body width are the same here and in Japan. It's the Accord, Camry, and 626 that have unique models in the US vs. Japan.
-juice
Dimensions for Legacy Lancaster:
(mm)
Length: 4720
Width: 1745
Height: 1550
Wheelbase: 2650
Dimensions for Legacy Touring Wagon:
(mm)
Length: 4650
Width: 1695
Height: 1465-1485 (depends on model)
Wheelbase: 2650
I'll leave it up to you guys to convert these and compare to our models.
Our Outback and the home-market Outback are the same width, at 68.7."
Our Legacy is also 68.7," but the home-market Legacy is 66.7."
So, our Legacys are wider than the Japanese models.
Bob
Length: 187.4" or 4760mm
Width: 68.7" or 1745mm
Height: 63.3" or 1608mm
Wheelbase: 104.3" or 2649mm
So width and wheelbase are the same. Ours is slightly longer, probably different bumpers. Ours is also a lot taller, perhaps because the cross bars are standard?
Pretty safe to say, they're essentially the same.
-juice
-juice
were used on prop planes up until jet engines became available.
Of course, smaller aerobatic planes used H4 engines. I have ridden in a 1947 Luscomb -- a single engine two-seater tail-dragger. Its H4 put out a whopping ( :-) ) 85 horses.
Chris
Always good to know, that when I'm tired of my car, I can make a plane out of it
* other models with 16" stock would need different brakes
* 16" gravel/snow/ice rally tires are very rare and very expensive. 17" simply do not exist. (tarmac rally, yes.) Don't forget the STi type RA is built for Group N rallying and only comes in white as such.
* end users would need 17" snow tires. yeah, right.
-Colin
EJ22 Disassembly - If you've every wondered what the inside of an H-4 (EJ22 in this case) looks like. I love this quote:
"My overall opinion of the EJ22 for aircraft use is that it is very well designed, extremely stiff and strong, uses good metallurgy and should make a fine aircraft engine with minimal changes. The design is several generations ahead of standard air cooled aircraft engines." ..Racetech Inc. [my emphasis]
Patti, every heard that testimonial? FHI enginerds would be proud! (Their lawyers wouldn't: FHI and SoA make no warranty and shall be held harmless for products used in non-terrestrial applications.)
EJ22 Assembly - Excellent close-up photography.
EJ22 Turbocharger mounting
EJ22 in Lancair 320
SVX EG33 in KIS Cruiser in Johannesburg, South Africa - This one's for you, paisan.
EG33 in White Lightning - Twin turbos -- yum!
Racetech Inc. Aircraft Page - even more links
Racetech Inc. - Calgary, Alberta, CA - "The affordable engine management system that YOU can program!"
Subie Lyc Engine Systems - New Berlin, WI.
Airsoob FAQ - From an inactive mlist.
Eggenfellner Advanced Aircraft - Watertown, CT, US.
Eggenfellner technical description of Suburu engines
Eggenfellner FAQ - Another testimonial:
"The Subaru is no ordinary car engine. There is a main bearing every 2 inches and this, together with a balanced flywheel and lightweight pistons, provides for an easy turning engine. It is not a coincidence that we only work with Subaru engines. Drive a Subaru and wind it to 10,000 RPM, it will be smooth as silk and you will understand that 4000 for continuous use is not a problem." ..Jan Eggenfellner [my emphases]
I love it, I love it, I LOVE IT!
Links courtesy of AltaVista Advanced Search (boolean search) of "Subaru near aircraft". Enjoy!
..Mike
..Mike
<<A HREF="http://www.ferrari.com/Automobili/index.asp">http://www.ferrari.com/Automobili/index.asp>
Cheers,
WDB
Bob
Mostly though the article was about used Legacys. It mentioned the popular demand for the H4 as a lightweight plane engine, being one of the reasons Legacys are hard to find. Sorry I couldn't find the link on the web.
I guess none of this comes as a real surprise since FHI does manufacture entire aircrafts.
Mike, those links you posted sure made me a believer in the Subaru engine.
-- ash
Bob
http://www.autonews.com/html/main/futureproduct.htm
greyfalcon, Tough question. To get a reasonable return on my investment, I try to keep cars 10 years, so you've made my goal. How's the paint and body? Do the Frequency of Repair records published in Consumer Reports indicate a 1990 Celica GT has reliability issues? (You can access the records online for a fee or read it at your library for free.)
If you missed the earlier posts on the forthcoming turbo, select "see all responses" at the top of this page, just below the topic title.
It's a tough decision. If I've got a reliable car and I like the way it drives, no monthly payments has it's appeal. Good luck in your decision.
..Mike
..Mike
Bob
Francophile, your link shows that the Testarossa did have a flat-12. Am I just confused...or do you have other info about the first Testarossa? The one time I was following a Testarossa, it didn't seem like there was enough height in back for anything but a flat engine!
DaveC.
Bob
Hey - it can fly OVER the rubicon trail!
Observations: FRAM filter looks out of place. Get the OE filter - I just did for the first time and the old gasket was so worn out I hadn't even noticed it!
Also, the intake valves are bigger than the exhaust valves. Must burn cleanly!
300 lb-ft? Anyone else notice that? What kind of mods do I need to do to get that kind of torque?
Maybe that is a "future model". Subaru is giving BMW a run for their blue/white propellor badge!
I too love and rely on Automotive News. Autoweek is good, but it's AN watered down.
They do make mistakes, though. In the Europe New Car issue, they said the BMW 325i had a new 2.5l engine. In fact, the 323i had the same engine, they just changed the name now that the 330i arrived and is differentiated enough.
They still say the ST-X is possible. We know it's coming.
greyfalcon: for low-end grunt, i.e. below 3500rpm, there is no replacement for displacement. A turbo can take a while to wind up and develop power. Larger turbos actually lag even more than smaller ones.
We'll have to see with the Impreza, but if it's a 2.0l high psi turbo, it may not give you the low end that you want (the high-end will blow away anything in its price class).
Test drive the 2.5l RS, you may actually prefer that bigger engine.
-juice
I've already excluded C&D, MT, and R&T as they are readily available and the writing is too folksy for me. I realize I need to consider international mags if I want to get the full scoop (like Evo or Car), but let's stick with US pubs at first. Opinions, everyone?
I want unopinionated raw data, like all enginerds
..Mike
..Mike
Unopininated raw data? I don't such a thing exists. They might start with that, but the majority of the article is opinion.
-Colin
If I had to pick just one, boy that's a tough choice! It would probably be Automobile. I like Automobile because it is a cut above the rest in terms of intelligent writing, and in interesting stories.
Bob
Automobile: used to get it, but it just didn't seem down to earth enough for me. "Logito ergo zoom" as a philosophy? Gimme a break. Best photos though.
Road & Track: used to get it also, but it's totally redundant and not as good as C&D (same ownership). Don't miss it one bit.
Car & Driver: It's the most complete of the bunch, though still biased (witness Toyota's boycott of advertising after none of it's products made the 10Best), so I take it FWIW. Oriented towards the mainstream populacem, and does get pretty in depth in their full reviews.
Motor Trend: useless hype for teenagers and ricers. Caprice won COTY, 'nuf said.
Autoweek: pretty current, very enthusiast-oriented. AutoFile's are excellent overall reviews, and they even quote benchmark times from other pub's. They often show spy photos several months before the monthlies do, and tease the monthlies in their BWTM (but wait, there's more) section about this.
Automotive News: very current. This is what dealership owners read, so find out here first. Also show rebates, spy photos (first). Info can be a little dry, though, since it's not oriented towards consumers.
Consumer Reports: good to gather info that you would otherwise miss. Like what fits where, safety features, reliability history, etc. The reviews are iffy.
Overall, Automotive News is probably my favorite, but I'm able to digest the format. Autoweek may be better for most folks. The monthlies don't even come close, IMO.
-juice
Bob
http://www.new-impreza.com/new_pictures.htm