Subaru Crew - Meet The Members II

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  • lilbluewgn02lilbluewgn02 Member Posts: 1,089
    Re:safety features...side-curtain airbags, which are being found on more models every day
    definitely lighted switches...it's tough to find stuff at night
    improved lighting modules for all cars: both main and fogs
    if possible, fold down rear seats for legacy sedan
    As said before, AVCS and double AVCS
    larger standard wheels/tires package comparable to JDM and EDM, and improved braking modules

    Nuff said
  • hammersleyhammersley Member Posts: 684
    Patti: I'm the idea guy - I have no access to the technology or the permissions... but it IS a good idea :)

    On a whole 'nother note... SNOW! We got a bunch last night... 6 inches in our yard... up to 11 or 12 inches in the northwest part of town. It's so cool how winter driving in my OB is such a non-event :)

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    RSHolland = Rally Sport Holland? Maybe if you did a timed rally event.

    Loosh: this ain't Europe. ;-)

    Hmm, dinner with speakers, I'm not sure how much time we'll have on the 6th. Maybe on the 7th, when we'll be browsing the show. What time does the show shut its doors? We could do a chat 2 hours after that, say 7pm if they closed at 5pm. Who needs food? LOL

    -juice
  • subarusaleshousubarusaleshou Member Posts: 161
    The dimmer for the dashboard lights should have it's brightest setting equal to when the lights aren't switched on. This would allow the clock etc. to be seen during sunlight hours even with the lights switched on.

    There are few storage areas compared to most cars.

    Follow the lead of Honda and forget the ashtray, make that another storage area.

    Put at least the small roof console of the Forester in these vehicles as well so there's space dedicated to glasses or other small items.

    Make the flip down above the rear view mirror large enough to completely shield the gap between the sun visors. As it is there are gaps large enough to cause serious sun issues which is what it's supposed to address.

    Put pull out extensions in the sun visors so when they are swung in front of the door window they cover totally.

    Put a second smaller visor behind the primary one so you can shade both front and side at the same time for driving in twisties.

    Make the windows both auto up and down from the main controls and light all switches as well as a lighted ring around the ignition switch. Make the ignition switch light timed delay like the dome light so you have time to get the key in after you shut the door.

    Put defrosters in both door mirrors that work with the rear window defroster. There are lots of mornings when the dew is on them just like on the rear window.

    Greater variation in the intermittent speed of the wipers.

    I doubt there is over $100 cost to Subaru to implement every one of these suggestions and I'd gladly have paid another $150 for my car if it had all these features.
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    already has the side mirror defroster. The button is just above the pw switches. Works great!

    -Brian
  • rangnerrangner Member Posts: 336
    mine too!

    Eric

    P.S.: I know Juice's story was extremely funny and creative, but don't forget my post. :(

    Here it is again..
  • rangnerrangner Member Posts: 336
    What do you all think about a rear bias for the AWD? You get the sporty driving characteristics of RWD without losing control in inclement weather. The Infiniti FX does this.

    Not balanced you say? Well riddle me this: why is the engine in the front of the car--OK OK easy to access.

    Maybe for performance models: put the engine behind the front wheels for more of a 50/50 weight distribution. Others already do it--Acura NSX, Infiniti G35, Honda S2000 etc.

    Possibly for STI models and/or the B11S...

    Thoughts?

    Eric
  • steverstever Guest Posts: 52,454
    I forget - did Steve leave already?

    I understand that there are changes brewing with all our flags, so no PRC flag is in the pipeline.

    Remember the mantra... change is good, change is good...

    Steve, Host
  • subewannabesubewannabe Member Posts: 403
    As someone who had to miss the chat ,work late the last 2 nights and just finished reading about the great news and all the posts in response, I am compelled to return to the important issue:What Juice and Bob wear in Detroit?

    I say Edmunds and SoA should come up with custom World Rally Blue baseball warm-up style jackets with appropriate logos for Edmunds, Subaru of American and , of course, SUBARU CREW,for Juice , Bob and Patti, with their names sewn on, of course, and matching ball caps . And then there needs to be an advance photo shoot so they can make life size paper cut-outs that will be on the floor in Detroit so Juice, Bob and Patti can go to lunch, etc., and in the meantime every Crew member who visits can be photographed with our VIP members in front of a new Legacy GT!

    Get this taken care of and we can talk about hybrid diesels and roadsters later!

    They couldn't have found better representatives!

    Mark
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Member Posts: 1,760
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    VTD takes care of your suggestion, giving the AT a 45:55 rear bias split.

    I already included VTD in my wish list: subearu Nov 21, 2003 4:26pm

    -Brian
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Follow the lead of Honda and forget the ashtray, make that another storage area

    Subaru would lose my wife as a customer. :(

    Bob
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    So we had a little excitement Thursday afternoon. Mom's water broke almost four weeks early and it was off to the hospital.

    At 8:07 pm Thursday, November 20, We welcomed Paul Edward Tyler Johnson into the world. A lot of names for a little boy; 6 lb., 6 oz., 19" long. Dubbed "cute and feisty" by his nurses.

    Not named for the Crew's Paul (sorry ;-)) but his maternal grandfather. Edward is his paternal grandfather's name (as well as his father's). Tyler, although very trendy these days, is actually a family name. My mother's mother was a Tyler, descended from US President John (as in "Tippecanoe and...too!") and English peasant rebellion leader Wat.

    Mother and baby are still resting in hospital and are scheduled to come hom on Monday. Dad is at home, feeding the cat and getting the house in order for the homecoming, with hopes to get a nap in somehow.

    I spoke to juice a few minutes ago and he told me about Bob's and his invitation to the Detroit Auto Show from SoA. What a coup for both of you - especially with no "photo embargo." Congrats and don't forget to bring lots of film and/or a big memory card or two. Will try to catch up on the rest as time permits. As I told juice, I have plenty of time to offer my SoA product suggestions to him, and most of mine have been pretty consistent anyway.

    Ed
  • rshollandrsholland Member Posts: 19,788
    Congratulations, for both you and your wife! That's great news, and welcome to the next chapter in your lives. It's going to be a great trip, I just know it!

    Bob
  • ladywclassladywclass Member Posts: 1,713
    to Ed, Mrs. Ed, and new little PETJ ...
    I'm so glad everyone is great and healthy!
  • subearusubearu Member Posts: 3,613
    Welcome to PJ (can I say that?) :-) . The delivery seems like it went quickly.

    Do try to get some rest before he comes home.

    Brogan & Brooke say hi!

    -Brian
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    Congratulations Ed and family!

    Craig
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Sure, Brian, PJ will probably be what he's called. I'll try not to think about the "Family Cirucs" reference. ;-)

    Thanks,
    Ed
  • locke2clocke2c Member Posts: 5,038
    Congrats! Paul is a nice Biblical name. :)

    -Colin
  • dcm61dcm61 Member Posts: 1,567
    Congratulations to the Johnson family and their new addition.

    All those names and not a Dave, Steve, Mike or k among them. ;-)

    DaveM

    P.S. Congrats to juice and Bob too!
  • rangerron7rangerron7 Member Posts: 317
  • rangnerrangner Member Posts: 336
    I know it's been mentioned in the past, but what about putting VDC across the line? Now the Scion XA and XB have it.

    Eric
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    Oops, meant "Circus" in post #17306. Sleep deprived, you know.

    I miss the "Dysfunctional Family Circus" and its sick sense of humor, though I can understand how the authors of the original strip would not be pleased.

    Ed
  • subarusaleshousubarusaleshou Member Posts: 161
    Ok, I see others doing it all the time. How do I quote part of a previous message in my message? Thanks.
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    Congrats, Ed!

    Juice- wouldn't that be Rallye Sport with an "e?" He does have a Ford, you know.
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    Paul is such a nice, strong name! Plus, it's the name of my second favorite Beatle!! Also, we have Paul Rivere (and the Raiders)! And - of course, the infamous Paul Hogan! There's your Subaru tie-in.

    I'm sure you'll truly love the incredible changes that are now coming your way. Please congratulate your wife for us too!

    Patti
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Congratulations to you and the Missus.

      Cheers Pat.
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    Are part of the AWP, half the model range already have the lighted ignition ring but make the time delay longer say thirty seconds, as it is now the thing goes off almost as soon as you close the door.

    I made my own and the time period is thirty seconds, in order to do this on the OEM unit all they have to do is change the discharge capacitor.

      Cheers Pat.
  • njswamplandsnjswamplands Member Posts: 1,760
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  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Congrats, Papa Ed. I had to call you, just couldn't wait. As excited as I am about the Detriot gig, let's be honest, a birth is way too cool!

    Eric: I like the idea. VTD is already 45/55, with a rear bias. The term "Subaru AWD" is confusing because you're really referring to 3 completely different systems.

    LOL Swampy!

    I found a loophole on the name! I wanted Ed to use the name "Dave", or at least "Mike", you'll recall. Well, I got my wish, but not the way I thought I would. You'll recall another common demographic is we all have pets, right?

    Well, riddle me this. Paul Edward Tyler = P.E.T. Coincidence? :o)

    sounds of a struggle, as men in white lab coats force juice back into his straight jacket

    -juice
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    for the most clever spin on Ed's son's name and it's tie-in to the crew! See I couldn't say "Paul" because I know Ed will get a little smile when his "son" is referenced!

    Patti
  • hammersleyhammersley Member Posts: 684
    Ed - congrats of course.
    Another Paul is another Paul, and for all the right reasons!

    Bubble gum cigars all around!

    Cheers!
    Paul
  • mre4mre4 Member Posts: 15
    I am in the market for a new car and think I have narrowed it down to these two. As far as I can tell, the CRV has a little more offroad capability and the XT has about 40 more horsepower. What else is it about the Subaru that makes it more valuable? Previous Foresters have depreciated more rapidly than CRV b/c of higher price -- will this be different w/ new engine? Talk me into buying a Subaru...
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    I don't think the CR-V would be better off road -- it's AWD system is part time. To engage, the front wheels have to slip first, otherwise the vehicle is most decidedly FWD. The Forester has a very advanced full time AWD system and will readjust torque as needed under acceleration/deceleration or slippage. Just how it works depends on whether you get an auto or manual transmission.

    Having driven both, I think the main differences are this:

    CRV - bigger, more room inside, nice backseat and good cargo room. Underpowered though, and the handling is pretty bad. Feels like driving a bus. The interior has a hose-out "vinyl" quality to it, which may be a plus or minus to some people.

    Forester - smaller inside, and the back seat is very tight. Good power in the base models, outrageous power in the XT. Handling is excellent for a pseudo SUV, and it's a lot of fun to drive.

    We test drove a CR-V in Aug 02, and both my wife and I were very underwhelmed. The lack of power and tippy ride/handling really turned us off. We test drove a Forester a few hours later, and both had a blast. Bought a Forester XS that night!

    Bottom line, you need to test drive them both. The XT will knock your socks off, I am sure of it. The CR-V is going to be like driving a VW bus in comparison!

    Craig
  • hypovhypov Member Posts: 3,068
    Best Wishes PaPa Ed, MaMa Ed and Baby Paul :)

    -Dave
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    You might want to also compare the safety of both vehicles. I'm not going to share much because as an employee of Subaru, I'm a bit biased.

    But- --it would be nice to have you join our crew!

    Patti
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    You know you want to share!! One reason we like you is *because* of your bias!

    Craig
  • lilbluewgn02lilbluewgn02 Member Posts: 1,089
    WELCOME TO THE WORLD...OF JOY AND LOVE, OF MOM AND DAD, OF THE EXCITEMENT AND DISCOVERY OF FIRST TIMES, AND OF FRIENDS ALL AROUND.

    To Ed and family...congratulations to all of you on your new crew member.
    Serge, Susan, and Michael
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Member Posts: 1,676
    I usually don't have to do the "sales pitch". You all do a fine job of that for me!!

    Patti
  • hondafriekhondafriek Member Posts: 2,984
    As a former Honda owner and lover of these cars for many years before buying a Subaru I do not knock Honda lightly BUT! the CRV is agricultural in comparison to the Forester, its AWD does not compare, it is noisy on the highway tire roar almost makes you want to wear hearing protection.

     And even with a boost in horsepower this year it still feels underpowered.And as Craig pointed out the handling leaves a lot to be desired, but test drive both and form your own opinions.

      Cheers Pat.
  • lucien2lucien2 Member Posts: 2,984
    before buying our Outback. I agree that the Forester is a little tight in back, hence our decision to go Outback.

    But I did drive both Forester and CR-V, and must agree with others that the CRV has some significant handling deficiencies. Its part-time "RealTime" AWD system is not as refined either, making it less off-road worthy.
  • Karen_SKaren_S Member Posts: 5,092
    Congratulations and welcome to the world, Paul!

    Whew! So much happening here in the crew I'm having trouble keeping up.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Member Posts: 4,487
    I know some of you guys have covered the storage pockets in your cars with self-stick felt or foam. Where can you buy this stuff? Ideally, I'd like to find something like a 1/16" thick adhesive backed neoprene.

    thanks,
    Craig
  • kenskens Member Posts: 5,869
    Congratulations! Welcome to fatherhood! Doesn't it feel incredible (and tiring too?). Get sleep when you can. For us, the real battle at first were managing all of our friends and relatives that wanted to come by! :-)

    So now that we have the Forester and newborn in common, shall we move on to some turbo action?

    Ken
  • jlemolejlemole Member Posts: 345
    Whew! 2 days away and over a 100 posts in MTM!

    Special congrats to Ed on the birth of his son. Life as you knew it will never be the same!

    Juice and Bob: Lets really push those execs for the 7-seater. The Crew has lots of kids to move around -- we need that full-time AWD kid mover!

    Jon
  • bluesubiebluesubie Member Posts: 3,497
    I've said it elsewhere and I'll say it again.
    A big congraulations to you and the new family!

    Can't wait until he can on backroad drives with us! :-)

    -Dennis
  • lark6lark6 Member Posts: 2,565
    My family and I arrived home early this morning, and are settling.

    Thank you all for the kind words and thoughts. I spoke to juice on Friday and hope to speak to more of you soon.

    We expect life to be different but a good different. Sure some things won't be as easy to do (or won't be doable at all) anymore, but there will be plenty of new things to be done.

    Ed
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Good to hear, Ed! :-)

    Eric: right off the bat, I'd cut that difference in half. If we look at real-world pricing, the CR-V EX 5 speed TMVs for $21,629.

    The XT 5 speed has an incentive on it now, I've seen them for under $24k. TMV is $24,069, and Edmunds has not yet taken the current incentives into account. So the actual difference is less than $2k.

    For that you give up some rear leg room and a picnic table, plus a small moonroof.

    You gain:

    * 16" alloys, vs. 15"
    * bigger brakes with twin piston calipers
    * 4 channel ABS vs. 3 for Honda
    * About 90 real-world horsepower (dyno proven)
    * About 100 lb-ft of torque
    * heated seats
    * heated mirrors
    * front and rear windshield wiper de-icers
    * rear Limited-slip Differential (open on Honda)
    * 3 years roadside assistance (vs. zero)
    * 5/60 powertrain warranty, vs. 3/36
    * roof rack cross bars
    * 900 lbs payload, vs. 850
    * 2400 lbs towing, vs. 1500
    * 150 lbs roof capacity, vs. 100 IIRC?
    * full-time AWD vs. part-time

    Both score well on safety (CR-V EX, at least). In bumper-basher tests the Forester suffers far less damage, due to the spare tire location on the CR-V.

    I don't think the CR-V is underpowered, it's comparable to the Forester X. But definitely not in the same league as the XT, which easily outruns the Acura NSX and the Honda S2000 in a straight line.

    If you want a quick Honda SUV, the closest you'll come is a Saturn Vue Redline, which uses Honda's 3.5l V6 from the Pilot is a lighter, smaller Vue body. I priced it out, and you can actually get a Forester XT for less, plus the Subie is still quicker..

    -juice
  • jimmyp1jimmyp1 Member Posts: 640
    If not, wow!

    Jim
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