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bonnie_rickbonnie_rick Posts: 115
edited March 28 in Subaru


  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    There is a way to get a grip on some measure of efficiency, mainly by attempting to measure the overall drag (aerodynamic + rolling resistance) on the car and looking for the minimum (the bucket). You can do this through a series of coast-down tests on a flat highway, basically by timing the velocity and/or distance every second or so. If someone knew how to interface with the vehicle speed sensor pickup, it would be very easy to acquire this sort of data with a laptop. You could then use Excel or a simple computer code to crunch the results. Hand measurements (speedo and stopwatch) might also work, but you'd have to deal with a little more uncertainty in the measurement, and the accuracy would not be as good.

    I've used this sort of approximation technique while teaching a freshman-level class in the mathematics of flight, and it really works. To keep things on a simple level, we use a lot of "ones" in the formula - 1 foot for distance increments, 1 second for time increments, etc. Makes the math simple, and the students like it. But the real kicker is seeing the approximation match exact theory almost perfectly.

    If somebody can get the data, I can crunch the numbers! In the spirit of Click & Clack, you can send your data to me on a new PowerBook G3 . . .

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Maybe SPT will market those seats. That would be great. I'm sure they'd fit ALL models, too.

    I spoke to Dana today, and there was an issue with the chat overlapping with the CSG's chat. The room was double-booked and that's why she was there as a Moderator.

    We'll have our own session this Thursday from 9 to 10pm eastern time (6-7 pacific), so don't miss it. There is a link at the top of the Subaru Crew topics page.

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Loosh, most rally tires are meant for gravel. I believe Michelin lists a whole bunch on their international site if you want to search around.

    Less expensive rally tires have a simple pattern and you cut additional grooves / remove blocks as needed. You can do this to a Michelin or Pirelli as well of course, but they make so many variants it may not be necessary.

    Ken-- I'm the one getting the clutch and I prefer to tear up tarmac instead of getting dirty. Easier to keep the shiny side up too. ;-)

  • We picked up our '01 outback last monday that has the upgrade alarm system. while i like having the alarm system, the activation/de-activation horn is a little loud, particularily since where it is parked is close to the neighbor's house. i followed the instructions in the manual about how to de-activate the horn when arming/disarming. the light on the remote blinked once after about 2 seconds but no matter how often i try, the horn still beeps when arming/disarming. does anyone know if it's even possible to de-activate the horn?
    thanks in advance.
    by the way, i have to say that my fiance and i absolutely love this car!
  • armac13armac13 Posts: 1,129
    if I had anything constructive to say, I would post the first posting, but since I don't....

  • My '00 Legacy alarm horn sound is turned on/off by holding both buttons down on the key fob.

  • This is an OT (Off Topic) post about an IT (Informaton Technology) topic. I know it is waaaay off topic for a car group but I also know there are few nerds out there who might enjoy hearing about it.

    I have DSL! This is an amazing thing because of two reasons: 1) I don't even have access to cable TV on my rural stretch of road; 2) the local telco is Conestoga Telephone Company, a throwback to the pre-Ma Bell days that never got swallowed up and has remained a tiny, rural, independent phone company since just after they invented the blasted things. They apparently decided to reinvent themselves as a CLEC and are now in cahoots with local ISPs offering DSL to us hicks. I got 960K downstream and 128K upstream, the fastest offering available. They're using the Nortel system, which works over longer distances (up to 4 miles) but doesn't deliver the 2-4Mbps speeds that some of them claim. I wanted to share the connection with multiple computers so I went out and got myself a router, an Asante unit that also has the capability to act as a print server for Windoze boxen.

    This morning the DSL line was activated (apparently while I was using that very same phone line as a modem connection!) and I got a chance to make it all go. Zoom! I downloaded a largish file from my service provider's site, assuming that there would not be a lot of 'net stuff between me and them and therefore the test would be a reasonable gauge of my line's throughput. I'm 3.3 miles from the switch, according the phone company, and I hit a steady 70KBps downloading that file. Good enough!

    The final amazing thing is that I got all of this accomplished just under two weeks after I first heard about it. One of those weeks is this week, a holiday week. That is flat amazing.

  • (see also post #1 topic 36, or read it here)

    Still debating studs vs. studless snow tires... the skating rinks that substitute for roads around here vs. having driven studs in the winter as long as I've been driving vs. the noise on bare pavement vs. the damage they cause to the roads, vs. etc etc... Any input from the snow belt bunch would be appreciated - I'll wait to go to Les Schwab's for a day or two... thanks, gang!

  • Hi gang. I just wanted to share pictures of my new black Forester S+! I'm very proud of it... so much so that my wife is frightened. ;-)
  • If your outback was manufactured after 8/00, it should have the wire harness installed, and the installation of the donnely mirror would be a pretty simple procedure.
    But, I defer to the experts for more detailed info.
    I do have the Donnely ECT mirror on order and will have it professionaly installed. Has anyone had their dealer do it? How much did they charge? I do not have the harness.

    Has anyone experienced brake squeaking? My 2k OB has 27k on it, and the brakes squeak during hard braking, during the final phase of stopping. Two visits to my dealer, they say there is no problem and the pad thickness is fine. I don't think the brakes should be squeaking.
  • There was a post here by Ken M. a few months ago regarding his personal experiences installing a Donnelly mirror. I have searched for the post but can't find it. He was going to post detailed installation instructions and (I think( post them on Juices site too ... Juice?

    Anyway know where to find Ken's notes...Ken are you around?

    Also, Gentex makes a similar mirror.

  • specs for installation are available at

    gentex mirror, I recall, is more expensive.
  • royallenroyallen Posts: 227
    Paul: You might check out Consumer Reports Nov '99 report on winter tires. Over a number of years of driving the Front Range of Colorado I have developed an opinion favoring two sets of wheels and tires, one with all season radials and one with snow tires and a full set of studs (one car) or a half set of studs (two cars, one of which is my Outback). As a result I no longer fear down hill icy winter conditions as much; and I keep an eye on the rear view mirror for the unwarry that may be out of control but don't know it yet. Before this strategy, I was hit twice by other drivers, I hit a curb making a left turn too fast and had a number of other close calls like my wife coming to a stop sign in a 4 wheel slide behind another stopped car that proceeded forward just in time as she slid to a stop exactly where the other car had been sitting! The extra wheel cost is small compared to accident repair and the rubber eventually gets used at little cost difference. Not many people have considered half sets of studs to get half the benefit and half the drawback, but for a Subaru with AWD and ABS it makes a lot of sense if you only drive in snow a few days each winter. I also chose 3/4" larger tires for winter to added clearance, another benefit of a second set of wheels & tires.
  • lark6lark6 Posts: 2,565
    Thanks for the dimensions. I actually did run outside and measure it and that's what I got.

  • Tire Rack not only sells tires and wheels and combinations but is also a tremendous resource of information. They tend not to badmouth any tires too badly but if you do a bit of translation you can usually figure out which ones they like better than others. Since you are interested in winter tires you might want to start at their Winter Tire FAQ.

    Good luck, and let us know what you decide and how they work for you!

  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    That's cool. I didn't realize the asante router could act as a print server. I have a linksys model which works great, but no print server. Do you happen to have a model# of the asante? I also have DSL in NYC less than a mile from the CO, and have the 640ds/320us. My best download I've gotten is about 100kb/s and about 30kb/s on the upstream. So your #s are good for being out in the sticks ;)

  • tlimatlima Posts: 124
    Nate, I've been down near that marsh as well with my new soob. I was scouting for kayak launching sites and not photography.

    Nice pics. Salt on the new soob already???

  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    Dave- My wife was wondering the same thing. We were at EWA Cars ( and they said no. Maybe with enough interest, Subaru will make them.
  • jerrys2jerrys2 Western massachusettsPosts: 189
    Please note that in terms of the occupation of North America, the sixteenth century was the Spanish century...from 1540 to 1600 Spanish captains went from California to (now) Kansas and established bases in what would become Florida and New Mexico. Don't blame the Pilgrims for the cazy folks on the left coast or the mess in Florida for that matter.

    On a serious note just hit 20000 trouble free miles on my 2000 Outback Ltd. 13 months with only Oil changes every 3000-4000 miles and tire rotation every other oil change ...I love this Soob second, I drove the first for 40000 trouble free miles .
  • jerrys2jerrys2 Western massachusettsPosts: 189
    Sorry never could spell

  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,786
    I'm amused to see that spelling the American way has not suddenly come up with new ways to delete letters. I was just looking at another English page which bemoaned the removal of "u" from the American language (labour =labor and so on). I thought the letter "i" may be going the same way.

    Had a good look at the new Outback H6 today while my 99 model was serviced. I really can't figure how Subaru in Australia can validate a $10,000 price premium (about USD 5,250) for a snappier engine and a Momo steering wheel in very dubious taste. It was only 9:00am but the sun had already heated the fake wood to incredibly unpleasant temperature. The rest of the wheel, clad in leather was fine. The beige leather inside a blue car was also pretty tacky.

    Don't think I will be in a hurry to upgrade.


  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    Well, it looks like the cost issue for the H6 is also an international concern, judging by your comments. I think everybody thinks the H6 is a decent enough car, and the engine is certainly a welcome (if not long overdue) enhancement. However, sticker shock seems to be the overwhelming feeling.

    Come on Subaru, let's see this engine in some lesser Subarus, without all the extra bells and whistles.

  • bg18947bg18947 Posts: 184
    I have a 2000 Legacy GT Ltd in Rio Red and I feel like a victim in Mel Brook's movie parody. Are birds attracted to pooping on red cars, or what? I don't park the car under trees, lamp post, or bird hangouts, yet I appear to notice an unusual amount of bird poop each time I get home. I never noticed this before with any of the other cars in terms of poops per mile driven.
  • Oops I meant "curse". That's what I thought the
    typo above was, the Pilgrims Curse .

    Anyway it seems to me that it is not the color of
    the new car but the very fact that it is new that attracts those bombadiering birds; now that I've driven the brand-newness off my Titanium '00 GT, the poops/mile has gone way down. I'd happily back a taxpayer-funded study of that phenomenon.

    As for the H6 and its price, I may be way off base
    here but Subaru is a small firm as car companies
    go, and development and initial tooling costs for a motor are very high - to the point that some
    European manufacturers jointly develop new motors - so perhaps the initial price premium for the H6 is Subaru's way of recouping some of those costs. Also IIRC the production of the new H6 was supposed to be in pretty small numbers at first, so that makes it a scarce commodity. I agree that the cost should be lower, but I don't mind letting the early adopters help make it more affordable for cheapskates like me .

  • amishraamishra Posts: 367
    Some areas are natural routes for bird migration.

    Looks like a number of us who were questioning the value of the H6 before it was released, were right.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    Thanks for the link. :)

  • miksmimiksmi Silver Spring, Maryland, USAPosts: 1,246
    Join in, Bob, I'm "chatting" now. It's more like a bulletin board, completely HTML-based, so no firewall issues (yeah!). I don't have any intelligent questions to ask, so PLEASE join me!



  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    It's kinda slow and weird!

  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,788
    Oh well... I tried. No new news, and yes - weird.

  • miksmimiksmi Silver Spring, Maryland, USAPosts: 1,246
    Hey Mike and Bob, I see you got posted, cool! (Bob got two!). I thought it would be good to let Warren know there are some enthusiasts out there. Who knows, maybe he'll ask to do more Subaru reviews. Thanks for joining. (My second question didn't pass muster.)

    ..Mike Smith


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