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Store Bought Waxes Part II (No Zaino Posts)
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I'm sure you can get a better job by claying and going to a multi-step process. Me, I've got better things to do and with todays clearcoats I'm not convinced that it makes any difference.
I used Bead Max over two months ago and the water still beads up like the vehicle was just waxed or what ever you want to call it.
Fast, easy, long lasting and very cheap to buy and it does shine very nicely.
Great stuff!
It matters to me whether the product has wax in it or not. And the web site did not even say if there was wax in the SpeedBead. It matters to me because:
1) The way wax protects is different from that of sealant.
2) The way you correct mistakes is different between the two. You remove sealant with alcohol, you can get wax off with Dawn.
3) The way you combine products is different. For example, one might want to apply wax on top of a sealant but one would never want to do the reverse.
4) If I switch products, I need to know what to do to prepare for the new product. If I am switching from a sealant to wax, then a Dawn wash is not going to do much good.
Everyone should be interested in whether their pr oduct has abrasives in it, because overuse of abrasives can damage a paint job.
It's not really a wax (no appreciable amount of wax in it) but a polymer sealant with light polishing ability. Meguiar's is claiming this is the most durable product they make. I've been using it the past week or so and it seems like a nice product if your paint is in excellent condition. It would be a great choice for someone who just bought a new car and wants a good product they can buy in a local store.
Retail rollout should be early Feb but you can order now from Meguiars.com. About $15.00.
http://www.bettercarcare.com/articles.php?articleId=44
Clay your Camry first the next time you use Stoner's Speed Bead, it does make a difference.
Good luck!
Thanks,
Jeremy
Waxing your car is really easy and fun (well, it is for me...). Like most things in life there is a learning curve and most common sense rules apply. Technique is more important than product. There are a million websites with info on how to wax your car. A simple web search will turn them up. Here's a couple for your review:
http://www.autopia-carcare.com/inf-wax.html
http://www1.excite.com/home/info/learn2/tutorials_qa_overview/0,1- 4899,auto_673_0,00.html
http://www.properautocare.com/whywaxyourcar.html
Most modern waxes and polishes are not nearly as harsh as they used to be because today's car paint is much softer and thinner than it used to be. Even products that have been around for decades have been reformulated to some extent so that they don't needlessly harm paint.
Give the above links a read and if you still have questions, holla at us.
Thanks in advance for any response.
The Sandman :-)
I live in N.E. Ohio and the state is in love with road salt, so my van gets plenty of harsh treatment during the winter months.
Don't be fooled by the spray can. Speed Bead is the only thing that I will ever use again! It is fast and it will last for months.
1.Meguiar's NXT Tech Wax
2.P21s Carnuba Wax
3.Zymol Carbon
I'm getting the Club Sport ready for a couple of car shows and concours and I really wanted to go all out this year. Durability isn't really an issue as the car is garaged most of the week-I may drive it to work 1-2 times/week tops; the rest of my driving takes place in the late afternoon or evening-rain or shine. Thanks for any help you can give.
I guess it depends on what final look you want. I detailed a black Saab 9-3 recently with NXT and it really looked great but P21S would have look equally nice if different. So, deep and rich, go NXT. Glossy and mirrory, go P21S.
Hope this helps. LMK what you decide to do.
http://www.eagleone.com/_products/3,2081616.asp I know Eagle One makes good products-otherwise I'd dismiss it as snake oil. Have you seen it/tried it?
* It comes with a microfiber towel for product removal/polishing. Most car waxes come with a foam applicator but this is the first time I've seen a wax include a polishing towel as well.
** E1 is running a rebate where they'll refund your purchase price up to $10. Most stores sell it for less so the rebate makes the wax free. Free car wax and a free microfiber is a darned good offer IMO.
The three products (NXT, E1, and Mothers) are all very similar in that they have very light polishing ability and seem to be a bit more durable than your typical store bought cleaner wax.
It's hard to answer the surface prep question without seeing the car. NXT doesn't require anything special but like any last step product, the better the paint is prepped, the better the product will perform and the better the end result.
The Sandman :-)
And here's an insider's secret about P21S:
They sell a very similar product to motorcycle enthusiasts called S100. If there is a difference between P21S and S100, its very minor. S100 can be purchased at any Harley Davidson dealer or online. And the best thing is that S100 is $10 cheaper.
If your car needs some polishing to remove light swirl marks and whatnot, try P21S Gloss Enhancing Paint Cleanser (or the S100 variant, Shine Enhancing Cleanser). Both are about $10 and are nice, if very mild, polishes.
Again, thanks for the helpful info. You have as much class as Terry and Drift in these forums, and it's greatly appreciated!
The Sandman :-)
Thanks in advance all.
The Sandman :-)
Wish me luck!
The Sandman :-)
On a scale of 1 to 10, I'd rate this product a 5 at best. Thank goodness it'll be free after I take care of the rebate materials. I almost bought the new Turtle Wax product, it was a few bucks cheaper also. I think I will eventually go to the Harley Davidson store for the 100 wax.
Bret, you can e-mail me if you want to discuss the product further.
The Sandman :-(
Just my opinion!
The Sandman :-(
I'm looking for a good topper wax for either BlackFire or Klasse and don't want to use P21S, no matter how positive the reviews have been, because of the prospect of reapplying every 2-3 months. I bought some Nanowax yesterday and plan on applying it next time I wash the car (not today, hey, it's Easter). I figure it'll be a low cost test for one option and will report how it works. Can anyone suggest something else to try?
I did have a base coat of a nice dealer wax on it, but the Rain-X Fast Wax did really shine it up and make a very smooth finish.
It was very easy to apply and wipe off. Did entire vehicle in about 40 minutes, and left no white spots on the black areas.
Anyone else try this product?
We will see how long it lasts, but I can imagine putting this stuff on every couple of months with no problems.
Product was cheap only about $4.50 at Wally World. I had very good results and swear by the Rain-X windshield treatment.
There are very few people that ever try S100 as a carnauba wax and are disappointed. It looks great, is inexpensive, does not stain trim, and NOTHING is any easier to wipe on and wipe off. Most Harley shops sell it for $14.95 and that my friend is true value.
Am planning to get down to the HD shop soon and pick up some S100, really can't wait to try it.
A friend at work got me a dozen micro-fiber towels from Costco today, she said they cost her $12.99. Much softer than the terry cloth towels I had been using.
The Sandman :-)
Have had 2 days of pretty heavy rain here in South Florida, and the Nanowax has performed very well, the car still looks pretty clean with little or no dried rain spots.
Took your advice and ordered S100 SEPC and wax. Everyone says they're easy to use and I decided to forego the expense/effort of BlackFire and Klasse. I do like waxing my car when I find the time. I may also try NXT and then topping it with S100 (S100 SEPC, NXT, S100 wax).
just4fun2:
Being obsessive/compulsive as i am i did try the Nanowax the next morning. Put a layer on half of the roof. Shine was very good, as good as I've had on my car but virtually indistinguishable from the Speed Bead. Will let you know how it holds up. I'm still not completely sold on either product as it's just too easy :P and I've seen better finishes on friend's cars, hence my purchase of the S100 products.
I don't think it's all that hard to buff off. I do one section at a time.
I've tried so many waxes over the years and I have to say I like Collinite the best.
You get alot of waxes out of a can also.
I got those Costco towels also. They're soft and plush for cheap towels but that makes them more difficult to use for buffing glazes/sealants than something thinner and less soft but I do like them.
I use Clay Magic and either Meguiars Swirl Free Polish or Meguiars Dual Action Cleaner Polish (depending on the severity of swirls...one of these has alwasy been sufficient for me). On my wife's white car I use Klasse AIO and SG since they last such a long time and I don't want to go through this process but once a year with a follow-up application of SG every 4-6 months. On my dark graphite pearl (fancy name for dark grey) car I use the Klasse twins during the winter but in the Spring I use S100 about once a month. The S100 can be applied and removed in less than 30 minutes on my Accord and I enjoy doing it every chance I get.
IMHO, the Klasse twins are as easy to use as anything there is as long as you do two critical things:
1. Apply the product so thin that you can't even really see it on the paint....especially the SG.
2. Wipe off each panel as you go (about 30 seconds after it is applied). TRUST ME - Wipe On and Wipe Off is the way to go.
The SG can be layered over and over but you should wait 12-24 hours before applying another layer. I think about 2-3 layers of SG is ideal and then I slap on some S100 every month or two.
Is there any experience here with differences in these four products that are over the counter poly sealants with mild cleaners?
NXT was commented on as better on solid paint vs. metallic. I have a metallic medium dark gray pearlcoat - any recommendations regarding these four brands?
Thank you.
bottgers:
S100 is a pure carnauba wax.