Zaino Car Care Experiences

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  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    I'll be away for a few days (No cheers please).
    on JURY DUTY. ("And how did you spend your vacation?") I've served many times before, but now I'm a consultant. Oh do I want out. I'm thinking that to avoid actually being picked for a jury panel I could:
    - Dress like a homeless person.
    - Wear an old pair of sneakers I use for painting.
    - Wear an old Tee-shirt rubbed with dog dew.
    - Try some of that novelty "scotch" tooth paste.
    - Start answers to all questions with: "Ummmmmmmm"
    - Respond to fairness questions with: "He's Guilty"
    -Why? "Cause he needs a good place to sleep".
    - When asked about personal interests, I could
    say: "I's reads 'Shake-Spears'"
    - And what's your favorite play: "Henry D'Puts where 'he says 'Kill the lawyers'".
    - AND I could carry a bottle of Zaino Z6 Gloss Enhancer and start polishing the court room's wooden rails.
  • squidd99squidd99 Member Posts: 288
    Hey pblevine:

    Good luck at the courthouse.

    A few suggestions from one who has been there.

    First, don't use the Shakespeare quote "The first thing we do is we kill all the lawyers," because everybody in the courthouse knows that the quote is an answer to the inquiry of how do we create a state of anarchy and disorder when we take over. It's a great example of a quote often (usually) being taken out of context, since it is often quoted to signify just the opposite of what it means in the play.

    Second, the best way to get off a jury panel is to tell the judge during voir dire that you would be a good juror because you can spot a guilty guy a mile away. Works every time.
  • joe166joe166 Member Posts: 401
    Tell them the truth...that you are in business for yourself now and that despite your willingness to serve as shown by prior service, you would be so distracted by the loss of income that you would find it impossible to concentrate and be fair and that you would not under any circumstances want someone with your state of mind as a juror if you needed a fair and impartial jury for a matter of importance. That has worked every time I have heard it (or a variation thereof). There should be no stigma for this honest answer.
  • pjyoungpjyoung Member Posts: 885
    I was in the jury pool for a criminal trial once that carried a maximum of a life sentence. When they asked me if I were willing to give the maximum penalty, if the defendant were found guilty, I said "yes" and was dismissed by the defense attorney with a peremptory challenge.
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,621
    My experience is that if you're an engineer, or can be shown to think logically, you'll be home or back at work in no time.
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • aircopaircop Member Posts: 2
    Keno,

    I had the same problem here in Florida, but it wasn't just any bird. It was a pelican who had eaten a large lunch. I rinsed it well, used the Z-7 mixed as Sal says with water and cleaned the area. I then used the Z-6 and it went back to the original shine. I had several coats of Z2 and Z-5 on the truck to begin with. I don't know if that has any bearing, but the Z-6 brought it right back to a great shine.
  • theweissmantheweissman Member Posts: 28
    I found some white, Made-in-USA, name-brand bath sheets on closeout at BB&B, and with a $5-off coupon, bought a couple of 'em. Even though the label said Egyptian cotton, I thought this was one rule I could break with no consequences.

    ** WRONG! ** These towels, though soft, plush and white, just don't have much absorbency. They leave water behind on my beautiful new silver Sebring convertible like crazy. They're useless.

    Heed the Zainiacs!

    Steve
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    anything that would help me is greatly appreciated.
    i currently have two silverados, 1 is victory red and i have babied it from the start with "Z". the other truck is metallic blue, and has always shown some spidering but i have almost eliminated them with Z5. it is also the wife's truck and god bless her, she had an accident with a dumpster which required 2,800 of body work to the right rear of the truck. the body shop is reputable, and they asked not to wash or wax the truck for at least a month. i've waited 6 weeks now and finally washed and waxed it. problem is that now in direct sunlight i can see ugly swirl marks, and what looks to be a slight difference in the shade of blue from the bed to cab.
    my question is this, should there be any swirl marks or is this just the reality of having had body work because of the damage?
    i have put two coats of Z5 and Z2 and it looks the same.
  • squidd99squidd99 Member Posts: 288
    I'm no expert on swirl marks, but you say that after body work you waited 6 weeks, then waxed it, then applied z2 and z5.

    I think you have to take off the wax BEFORE you put on any Zaino. From what I've read hear, you should remove the zaino (I don't know how to do that), remove the wax by washing with Dawn, then use a very light swirl remover to polish the bare paint, which had been exposed to the elements for 6 weeks.

    Then apply z1/z2, (unless you want to clay first)and proceed as normal.

    I think you just put wax over the swirl marks and protected them from further treatment.

    I would send an email to Sal and ask him for a course of treatment to remedy things. He will know and be glad to answer you.
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    i did remove all contaminents, and as instructed, i waited before doing any waxing. they had just paint it so they had not waxed it either so no wax was present to begin with. problem is that they obviously cut and polished the new paint, but left some ugly swirls in the finish. since this is a new truck and the rest of the trucks finish is virtually flawless, shouldn't the work performed, match the existing finish?
    the rear quarter panel on the bed has been replaced, and they did an excellent job there, but the finish itself doesn't look as good as the rest of the truck, especially in the sunlight.
  • squidd99squidd99 Member Posts: 288
    I have had a few quarter panels redone in my day, and often the paint color does not match exactly in bright sunlight. Also, I know nothing about painting a car, but I am not surprised that abody shop paint job is not up to the standards of a factory paint job. The only exception to that was when I did a big boo-boo on my Lexus SC400, the Lexus body shop work was absolutely indistinguishable from the original. But they charge a lot.

    In general, yes, the work performed should match the existing finish, but, as in most things in life, it's hard to find good craftsmanship and when you do, it's expensive.
  • darbhdarbh Member Posts: 51
    You can use 3M Finesse It II, followed by 3M Swirl Remover. Both are pretty mild. Dawn first. I don't think you need to remove the Z. These 3M products have abrasives in them which will cut through the Z.
  • chuasanchuasan Member Posts: 42
    I know this is not the proper discussion for this topic. But you guys knows betta than any other forum! While I washed my car yesterday. I spot a chipped paint about the size of * (the star). It's begins to rust in the center. What are my options to repair this spot? Does zaino help? I believe 4 coats of zaino have somehow slowed the rusting process. Please help me out. If you think to use touch up paint is the only option. Please give me some tip about it! thanks

    Chris
  • joe166joe166 Member Posts: 401
    There is a comprehensive article on how to do paint chip repairs at the car care on line web site. It is excellent and I have used the technique a couple of times and it works. Don't use the brush that comes with the paint, read the article. Go to this site and click on "How to articles". There are several good articles. Be patient and be sure to clean off all the wax and polymers by using alcohol or another solvent.


    http://carcareonline.com/

  • jgriffjgriff Member Posts: 362
    OK people, I have one question;

    what is the BEST MAGIC formula for streak free windows both in & outside??
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    i've tried everything and anything, and finally came across glass & surface cleaner by No Touch. so far it is the only cleaner that i've used that didn't leave streaks.
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    gave me suggestions for the swirl marks in my silverado..........i want to say thanks.
    i've mailed a letter to the owner of the shop in regards to the finish work they did, and hopefully they will make it right. can't wait to zaino the truck again.
  • kenyeekenyee Member Posts: 738
    Did you try Griot's Glass Cleaner?
    I'm impressed with how well it keeps the insides from fogging up.
  • squidd99squidd99 Member Posts: 288
    Windows are tough.

    I, too, have used lots of glass cleaners and found them to leave streaks and other stuff visible when I drive into the setting sun.

    I just got a new car a few months ago, and I bought the Z glass polish. This is not for daily use as it is a light abrasive. I used this on all the windows to take off all the adhesive and other sutff. That seemed to work fine, although it took two applications.

    For regular use, I now use Invisible Glass, which comes in cans. This seems to work well on the glass polished with zaino.

    By the way, my car has a plexiglass wind buffer between the back seat headrests (it's a small convertible) which I could never get clean. I finally bought and used the zaino plexiglass cleaner on it, and it's now just about invisible. This is great stuff if you have any plexiglass. It takes off the haze and the fingerprints, etc. Given that I have about 10 square inches to clean 3 or 4 times a year, each bottle represents a lifetime supply.
  • seeligseelig Member Posts: 590
    no i haven't, but would sure like to. being one that has also had the streak problem(no matter how clean they looked) am willing to try anything that makes life easier in this area of detailing. where abouts is Griot's sold?
  • kenyeekenyee Member Posts: 738
    www.griotsgarage.com
    The stuff is expensive, but most of it is good.
  • BushwackBushwack Member Posts: 258
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    Streaking is one issue, but any suggestions on getting rid of water spots on both side mirrors? Windex, etc. was a worthless attempt - I tried vinegar & water, but that didn't do much (that use to be a 'sure-thing').
    .
    I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks.
  • squidd99squidd99 Member Posts: 288
    The mirrors are, of course, glass, and I found that Zaino's glass cleaner worked great on all the mirrors. It takes off the haze and the fuzz and the glare, and I'm sure it will take off the water spots.

    It is abrasive, so don't use it all the time, but for a problem situtation, it's the best thing I have ever used.

    It takes some time, since you have to let it dry to a haze, but it's worth it. (Remember Glass Wax? It's kind of like that -- you can use it to setncil ornaments on you glass at Christmas.)
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    'Made it through Jury Duty, and thanks all for your suggestions. I was sent to two panels. The first was a stock fraud case that was scheduled to last "about 4 months" (quote da Judge). As Joe166 suggested, I simply told the judge the truth. As a consultant, my income would go to zero, and I would not be able to render an honest service over that length of time. He agreed. The second panel was for an armed action (person shot in a night club). It seemed that both sets of lawyers didn't want anyone with an IQ above 10 or who could draw any conclusions. Out of the first 16 persons in the 'voir dire', only two were selected. I was in the second group to be questioned, and only 3 were selected. Without going into details, let's just say I was in good company. Again, thanks all.

    Re: Paint Chip Repair. Joe166: That website looks interesting and I just read the article regarding the use of touch up paint. Similiar to Chris Parrish's suggestions. As a daily commuter, I'm unfortunately on the receiving end of at least a few pepples and small stones each week. I try to keep up with the paint chips and use (or attempt to) the Parrish method. Simply: clean the chip area (or scratch). Apply touch up paint in layers using the tip of a tooth pick, and file down the resulting raised portion. I'm still learning, and someday maybe I'll be able to consider myself "good".

    Re: Windows: I also think the Zaino Glass Polish is a great product. I've been using it to remove interior plastic-generated haze and even on my exterior windows. After removing the residue, I also re-clean with Windex. I'm sure there are other good products and 'am still experimenting. I used Z6 on my exterior windows but with only limited results. When first applied, Z6 does act like Rain-X, but after the first good rain storm, the Z6 seems to have washed away. I'm now trying Z2 on my rear windows and it seems to work well. I'm not sure I should try it on my front windshield. Any suggestions?
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    Paint Chips - Instead of the Finesse bar, I have used "Paint Leveler", a type of solvent available near the touch up paint in the Auto Parts shop. Use some leveler on a clean cloth with a hard backing. It will dissolve fresh paint (1-2 hrs. dry) down to the surface and cannot scratch your good paint.

    Glass Cleaner - The best I have found is Stoner's "Invisible Glass" at the Parts Store. It is also really important to use a totally clean towel, or the glass cleaner will pull some of the grease, etc. out of your towel and spread it around the glass. You will rub forever!
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    re Paint Chips: I'll have to try that "Paint Leveler". Instead of a 'finese block' or 600 grid sandpapaer, I've used that very fine emery cloth. Mixed results. Its fine on ordinary rock/pepple caused pits and scratches, but not so good or those 'contact scratches' on my bumper caused by someone parking into me.

    Has anyone heard from our friend Fastdriver? I hope he's on vacation.
  • joe166joe166 Member Posts: 401
    I have used this with mixed results myself. If you get it right the first time it is wonderful. If you don't and have to use more paint, it is really hard to be patient enough to clean it out of all the nooks and crannies and it negatively affects the adhesion of the next coat. On the other hand, I don't really trust myself to use sandpaper--I have a heavy hand on everything else, why would I assume that I would exercise discretion on sandpaper? I use polishing compound and it works well, just very slowly.
  • theweissmantheweissman Member Posts: 28
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    http://www.linensource.com


    Steve

  • blkmgkblkmgk Member Posts: 54
    my, my, my, I feel like I have been reading for hours about this product called zaino. Sounds really good, dont see why I shouldnt try it. And just to think that I was looking to buy meguiars products cause I read on the lexus board how good they are. Well I guess I wont. I will put an order through and I dont know if I can wait that long, but I am looking forward to seeing my car look like new again. black on black 97LS400. I will get back polishing and waxing - later.
  • squidd99squidd99 Member Posts: 288
    Welcome aboard blkmgk.

    I have a black Lexus (SC430) and the Zaino finish makes it look great. You will be very pleased.

    Since you car is a a few years old, be sure to follow the directions for getting off all the old (yellowed) wax. (Wash with lots of Dawn diswashing soap.) You should probably also use the clay, so you might want to read up on that.

    If the paint has oxodized at all, use a product that removes that; if your car has been garaged, and not exposed to lots of sun, you may not need to do that.

    Then go with the Zaino per directions, and you will not be sorry. And once you have made the conversion, which will take a while, you will need only minimal upkeep to preserve the shine year after year.

    The Lexus black paint is great paint, and deserves a Zaino shine.

    You won't be sorry.
  • exmoexmo Member Posts: 5
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  • bigfigbigfig Member Posts: 35
    I spoke to a person that owns a detailing shop about giving my vehicle the wet look. He suggested cleaning the surface for grit and grime and then polishing with a teflon product. Has anyone used a teflon polishing product on their vehicle or know of such a product.
  • squidd99squidd99 Member Posts: 288
    Never heard of it.

    All the posts I have seen say that polymer finishes, of which Zaino is considered to be the best, are the only alternative to wax. Maybe he meant polymer when he said teflon.

    But if you did coat your car in teflon, and cook a pork chop on the hood, it wouldn't stick, so there's one advantage right there.
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    The "Teflon" car polishes are a scam (IMHO), like the colored car polishes.
    1. There is hardly any Teflon in the polish
    2. It is not baked on at super high temperatures like it must be to adhere
    3. Who says Teflon is shiny? Also, it is probably not optically clear.
  • darbhdarbh Member Posts: 51
    I'm with automophile.

    Most of these teflon products are hyped in these $400 paint protection scams.

    I suggest you use what is tried and tested: try Zaino.
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    I'm also with automophile regarding Teflon. I think it was fastdriver who did a bit of research on this. Anyway, some of those "teflon" product do contain some bits of a substance with the same chemical formula as the plastic teflon. But to be effective, that substance must be molded to the object and baked into a single coating layer. Since they do NOT use the frying pan coating method, they won't do your car any good.
    Such products should be known as: "Tiny Effects From Lots Of Nonsense".
  • killakella123killakella123 Member Posts: 52
    From what I can see on my cookwear, teflon is some bad [non-permissible content removed] stuff. Maybe they should "bake" it on top of the paint. I bet bugs would come off real easy. On hot football game days you could leave the grill at home and use your hood instead? Maybe not.
  • bh0001bh0001 Member Posts: 340
    As of 6pm tonight there's a complete outdoor water use ban in Guelph. NO MORE CAR WASHING!!! I got up early this morning to quickly wash my baby before I came to work. Now I'll really have to avoid any messy construction areas, particularly if it rains enough to make them muddy but not enough to replenish the groundwater.

    Better buy another bottle of Z6!!
    Brad
  • jeff331jeff331 Member Posts: 21
    I'm about ready to order a set of Zaino products, but needed some advice on how much I will
    need. I'm going to be doing a Chevy Tahoe and a Honda Accord. Is one bottle each of Z2
    and Z5 going to enough, or will I need two of each. How about the Clay Bar, one or two?

    Thanks,
    Jeff
  • evilizardevilizard Member Posts: 195
    One bottle should be plenty to do both cars at least twice (count on 8-10 coats per bottle depending on car size and skill at getting a really think coat). I'd say one clay bar would be enough. I figure one clay bar is good for about 2 cars before it is too dirty. Don't forget your Z-6, if there is anything I would get two of that would be the one.
  • kenyeekenyee Member Posts: 738
    My Zaino clay bar was pretty hard. I barely did one car with it.
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    Really? Was that bar at least soft enough so that you could fold it over as it gathered dirt?

    I've been able to use a single clay bar to do my car twice (at least).
  • kenyeekenyee Member Posts: 738
    Of course, it was around 45F outside when I did it :-P
    But it was never very soft, even when I first got it from Sal.
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    My Zaino Clay Bar isn't "soft" but it is pliable. That is: soft enought to fold over with a bit of pressure. If your bar is truly harder than that, send it back to Zaino, and ask them for a better bar.
  • nokuy2001nokuy2001 Member Posts: 4
    I have applied two coats of Z-2 to my Yukon, and one coat of Z-2 to my Bonneville and I still have a half of a bottle left. I probaly don't apply it as thin as most the guys here because I just started using it but it gets easier the more you use it. I would also recomend you get Z-6. It still looks like you just washed it a week later. It doesn't collect dust as much as it use to. I used the claybar on my 95 Bonneville and it realy makes the paint smooth. What year and color is your Tahoe? Hope this helps Marty
  • jeff331jeff331 Member Posts: 21
    I have a 2001 Tahoe Z71 and a 1998 Accord, and both are a dark green. I definitely plan on getting the
    Z6, as the Tahoe seems to be a dust magnet, especially the tail gate. There are very few swirls on the
    Tahoe (from dealer prep), but the Accord has quite a few. I'm most worried about getting to the center
    of the roof on the Tahoe. I may have to stand through the sunroof to reach all of it. It only clears the
    garage door by 2 inches! Thanks for the advise.
  • pblevinepblevine Member Posts: 858
    In addition to Z1 & Z2 & Z6, the Z5 product really does work wonders on those swirls. I've got a dark green Honda ('98 Accord Coupe) and three applications of Z5 made all those swirl marks go away.

    Also, Z7 is a great car wash. And it lasts, and lasts, and lasts. I also use the Clay Bar, Glass Polish, and interior leather products. I'm very happy with all of them.
  • kenyeekenyee Member Posts: 738
    I used it last Nov. already. I should have returned it.
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