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If this is correct, a 4-door Honda hatchback would be awesome! I've read that the Kia Sophia will offer a 4-door hatch in the 2001 model year. So it seems we may have some more choices in the market. Oh late, lamented Daewoo Nubira 4-door hatch, we hardly knew ye.
1) I can find the prices (list and invoice) about the car itself and the auto option. But I can't find the price numbers for the radio and air conditioner--to be added to the CX. Is there any place on the net to find them?
2) The only significant additions to the DX seem to be radio, trunk cover, and rear wiper. They jack up the price by about $1500. I know power steering is in the DX package. But it is also in the CX with the auto shift option--at $200 more than the auto shift added to the DX. Is this a fair assessment?
Forest
I went with the CX over the DX for these reasons:
1. I could give a good crap about a rear wiper.
2. The DX comes with a simple radio, with no tape player (forget CD). I recommend going to www.crutchfield.com and purchasing a better radio with more features for less money, and a free installation kit. Took me 10 minutes - can't beat that. The CX also comes with front speakers standard; you can put rear ones in later.
3. I don't care about a rear shelf.
4. The CX Automatic was exactly $1000 more, and power steering is standard with the Auto tranny option.
We wanted an automatic.
5. I HATE wheel covers. The CX has nice steel rims with center caps, no wheel covers like the DX. Wheel covers get beat to crap after awhile, and they look cheap anyhow.
Our final price for the 99 CX Automatic with Air Conditioning and floor mats was $12,500. A great deal - and I shopped around and used services like Edmunds and AutoVantage.
The radio/tape player is a Kenwood, and it cost me $100 delivered from Crutchfield, with no installation hassles.
Good luck
Igloo
I'd still like to find out the list (invoice) price of an air conditioner. A dealer quoted $1350. My impression is that the dealer cost should be less than half of that.
carpoint.com doesn't show prices for accessories for the 2000 Honda models. Their 1999 pages might have shown these prices, but those pages are nowhere to be seen.
I'd appreciate anybody telling me where on the net I could find dealer costs for a Honda radio (simple AM/FM) and air conditioner--to be added to a CX hatchback.
Forest
carlady/host
Why oh why are you so worried about finding out what the dealer paid for the A/C unit?
The only thing that really matters is what YOU will have to pay for it.
Also, a large portion of the cost is for the labor to install it. It's about a four hour job, I think.
Or...you could try to install it yourself...Good Luck!
Here is what you don't want to hear...
Hatchbacks are dead, at least in the U.S. Oh, we still make and sell a few, but for the most part, they are unloved.
Who knows, they may have a revival?
Sounds to me like they are pretty popular! :-)
carlady/host
Thank you.
hoanvt,
I've only heard the same rumors as you probably have. I heard a 1.8 liter is in the works but who knows?
BTW, the Canadian hatch does have a tach, I guess for some reason they don't think we need it. We get the low fuel indicator, they get a tach. If you can't figure out your low on gas you should have your license revoked!
Anyway, I am trying to determine a fair price for sale in the Seattle area. I've gone through the usual web sites for pricing information. I've researched the classifieds in the local papers etc. My predictament is that there are very few Si's for sale so I'm not sure where to price this car.
Here is the info: 1995, Red, a/c, very clean, 41,000 miles, new tires and battery. Never been in an accident.We have complete service records. Any advice would be appreciated. Thank you.
It's always amusing to me to see what bothers some people.
I agree with Igloo. I can listen to the engine and know when I'm pushing the thing too hard.
Or, bring it to me. We will be happy to buy it!
You ought to buy a Kia or something, then you might be able to drive with your eyes on a tach needle!
P.S. There is no 3.9 financing on 2000 Civics!
These are VERY hard to find cars and you won't have any trouble selling them.
Caution, these do attract young kids!
They only offer the power windows/cruise etc. in the LX and EX models. I like mine just the way it is. The only thing I 've changed is, I put some nice aftermarket alloy wheels on it (14x6 Borbet Type-T) with 195-60 HR tires that improved handling dramatically..
Excellent commuter car.
I have 85K miles on mine and have spent very little on maintenance. Getting ready to do the timing belt (and water pump while they 're in there..) and that's a biggie: $350, but it's normal maintenance required in almost every 4cyl. car.
Go for it. You can live without the cruise.
The Civic hatchback 5sp. is 150lbs lighter than the next lightest Civic so it's faster than the DX and LX coupes & sedans and almost as fast as the EX, if that helps.. :-)
'06 Civic LX coupe
'11 BMW 335i coupe xDrive
'13 Honda Accord sedan (wife's car)
Yes "it would be nice" if tach, cruise, power windows etc were offered, but they are not.
By adding all of this stuff would make the car something it wasn't intended to be.
And, aftermarket cruise controls can be added.
Me. I rarely use my cruise anyway so I wouldn't care.
I recently purchased a 1999 Civic CX with the automatic tranny, and LOVE it.
Though I like the control of the manual, I grew to hate using the clutch in Boston.
The automatic in my 99 CX is smooth and comfortable, and it's still a peppy car. Yes, not as quick as a manual, but quick enough for my purposes (certainly enough to still get me in trouble).
Honda makes a FINE automatic tranny, better than most American cars in it's class.
They are? Someone better tell Volkswagen to stop selling the Golf GTI GLX....
>> Yes "it would be nice" if tach, cruise, power
windows etc were offered, but they are not. <<
Why not? Even the base Ford Focus ZX3 comes with a tach.
>> By adding all of this stuff would make the car
something it wasn't intended to be. <<
Yep...a lot more desirable.
I currently drive a Civic EX coupe, but always have liked hatchbacks for their versatility and distinctive styling. I could be driving a Civic hatchback, but why should I give up all the convenience items I've come to appreciate?
I bet Honda would sell a lot more hatchbacks if they included an uplevel LX, EX or even Si version. Keep the CX and DX for the "no frills" crowd, but give the rest of us what we desire.
functions perfectly. the best $225 i've ever spent!
Isellhondas or anyone else, will the redesigned 2001 civic offer a hatchback model?
all the spy pix and articles I've seen only mention the sedan and coupe.
Much thanks
As I've said before, the hatchbacks are not adored by the majority of buyers anymore.
It's a fickle market out there. I'm sure that Honda is doing continual market research.
Hope that will give you some idea about the price. Keep in mind this is the last model year so they can do it better than before.
BTW, I also looked at the Ford Focus HB and it feels better and cheaper than Civic(more standard equipments), but I'm not sure about the resale value. But I think you should test drive Focus then make your decision.
If they don't give you what you want call some dealers, tell them exactly what you want and how much you want to pay.
I had one dealer tell me that he wouldn't be making enough off the car, I told him he wasn't selling Ferrari's and if he didn't take $13,400 he wouldn't make anything off of me. He got pissed, I walked and someone else sold me my car.
I don't trust American cars.
Also, if I could tap into the expertise on this site, does anyone want to make a long-distance diagnosis on my car? Here are the symptoms:
--a bit more tailpipe smoke than usual
--rough idling
--lower fuel economy
--occasional "valve" noise when first starting.
Car has 89,000 miles on it, and we've kept it in good repair, with regular maintenance and oil changes.
Any input/ideas?
Thanks in advance.
carlady/host