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As far as making a down payment when leasing this truck goes, I definitely would not do so if I was in your shoes. I always advise consumers to lease vehicles without putting any money down. I say this for several reasons. The first is that if your new leased vehicle is totaled in an accident or stolen and never recovered during your lease term, your insurance company pays off the bank that you are leasing it through and your down payment essentially disappears. Also, down payments on leased vehicles do nothing to reduce their lease-end purchase prices. So if you were to lease this Touareg with a $10,000 down payment or none at all, its lease-end purchase price would be exactly the same.
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Next we have the 2003 Nissan Altima SE 3.5 V6. If you were to lease this car through Nissan Motor Acceptance Corp. this month for 3 years with 12,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00150 and 54%, respectively. In lieu of this special lease, Nissan is offering 0.9% special financing for up to 36 months and 1.9% for 48 & 60 months on this model.
Next up is the 2003 Mercury Grand Marquis GS. If your father was to lease this car through Ford Credit this month for 3 years with 12k per, its base lease rate (Ford publishes lease interest rates for its models rather than money factors. To convert this rate into an approximate factor, divide it by 2400.) and residual value should be an unattractive 8.25% and 40%, respectively. Ford is also providing $3,500 lease cash on this model that may be used to negotiate a lower selling price. It also has 0.0% special financing for up to 60 months and 1.9% for 72 months on the '03 Grand Marquis.
Lastly we have the 2003 Hyundai Sonata GLS or LX V6. To the best of my knowledge, Hyundai is not currently offering any sort of special lease program on this car. If you were to lease one, you would likely have to do so through an outside lending institution, using the $1,000 customer cash that Hyundai has on it to negotiate a lower capitalized cost. Hyundai is providing special financing rates of 0.0% for up to 36 months, 1.9% for 48 months, and 2.9% for 60 months on this car right now.
If I was in the market for one of these four models, I would definitely go with either the Accord or the Altima way before either the Hyundai or the Mercury.
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My selling price for the car was actually quoted at 26,390 ($600 below MSRP) and the state tax is only 3% (NC). The issue is that my adjusted cap cost is being quoted at $27418 (26390 + 550 (AHFC acquisition fee) + 478 (I still can't figure out what this is). The woman I am dealing with tries to explain this 478 to be tax, but then there is also tax charged on the monthly payment, so to me it seems like I am getting taxed twice. Am I wrong because my payment of 389 seems too high.
Thanks.
I'm sorry to keep bothering you!!! My wife and I can;t seem to make up our minds
Looking for MF and Residuals for 2004 Acura TSX...
12,000 miles
36,39,42 months
Thanks again for all of your help!!!
This is the last one I promise
2003 BMW 325i
12,000 miles
36,39,42 months
MF and Residuals greatly appreciated
Thanks!
I am in the middle of a lease negotiation on a 330i. I am being told that as of July 7th, BMW increased it's lease acquisition fee from $500 to $1,000. Ouch! Is this valid? For what it's worth, I am in New York State.
If anyone here knows the answer, I would greatly appreciate your help.
Best regards!
Once again living in New York State is a nightmare. Many leasing companies are either raising the acquisition fee or pulling out of New York State completely. You need to thank our wonderful legislature for this bit of insanity. As the democratically controlled legislature is in the pocket of the trial lawyers, they have refused to change an archaic law where the leasing company can be sued for liability.
Why not look at a G 35? I just leased a Infiniti and there was no increased fees.
I am looking to lease a 2003 Ford Explorer XLT. Could you please provide me with information on 36 and 48 month leases with 12,000 miles per year? The MSRP on the vehicle is 33,510. If you need the region that I am in, it is Northern KY.
Thanks a lot!
I have been quoted the following details on a 540i. Am about ready to get it but am curious as I think they can do better on the money factor.
MSRP 61170 Cap Cost 54295
Resdiual 46% Money Factor .002 48mth/12K miles lease. How much lower and is the lease acquisition fee really $795? This quote they say is through Chase
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Thanks so much for all your help! I finally have a deal on the 2003 325 convertible. It was the only one left in the north-east with the options I was looking for! The dealer is going with Chase for the financing. They quoted a MF of .0019 and res of 59% for the 12/36 program. BMWFS was at .0022 and 57%.
The deal ended up as follows;
MSRP - $43,620
Sell Price - $39,827 (Edmunds TMV at $43,000)
Cap Cost reduction - $700
Base monthly - 495/month + tax
The only other fees were $795 Acq and $200 doc/licence.
The way I see it, the dealer made out with over 2K profit(because of the 2500 cash back) and I am paying less than if I went with BMWFS.
Thanks again for all your help.
David T
I saw your earlier post regarding 36 month/15,000 mile lease money factor and residuals for a 2003 Audi allroad and wondered what the figures were for a 48 month/15,000 mile lease. I'm located in central California if that matters. Have the residuals changed any on the 36 month lease or are they good until August? Thanks.
Tom
Do the base rates apply to below inovice deals on 5 series or do they use another rate? I get mixed stories.Thanking you in advance!
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Also, in your post I noticed that you mention a "trade in of $5,000." I personally feel as though you would be much better off not putting any money down when you lease this car. You may have read this in one of my previous posts, but there are two main reasons why I am personally opposed to making down payments on leases. The first is that if your vehicle is stolen and never recovered or totaled in an accident during your lease term, your insurance company pays off the bank that you are leasing it through and your down payment essentially disappears. The second main reason is that down payments do nothing to reduce the lease-end purchase prices of vehicles. So for instance, the lease-end purchase price of this car would be exactly the same whether you put $5,000 down on it or nothing at all down. If I was in your situation, I would either get the dealership to cut me a check for the trade or sell it on my own.
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If you were to lease a 2003 BMW 325i through BMW Financial Services this month for 3 years with 12,000 miles per, its base lease money factor and residual value should be .00150 and 59%, respectively. BMW did not publish any 39 month numbers for this car this month, but its 42 month, 12,000 miles per year numbers should be .00150 and 56%.
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However though, he is now interested in leasing a 2003 3.2 TL .. who would have thought ?? I'd just sell him my CL !! Anyway, I knew the residual of 58% and money factor of .00092 for 36 months/12000 miles per year since you provided it for someone else. However, I found out that the money factor INCREASES to .00102 if you wish to waive the $375 security deposit ... they guy showed it to me, it's straight from AHFC.
We were given a deal of $354/mo INCLUDING tax, on a lease in Philadelphia (remember, Philly is 10% tax on a lease - OUCH) .. with a shade under $600 due at signing) .. they used the .00102 MF to waive the security deposit, but they rolled the $550 bank fee INTO the monthly payment on the lease. My dad was HOPING to be around $330/mo WITH tax included. The price was based on $400 UNDER invoice, which I'm guessing is a pretty good deal. But even if they dropped it a little lower he might be AT that $330 a month, however, they would not move below that ... Dropping the price to around $1000 below invoice would get him close, but again, they wouldn't do it since they said they'd be LOSING $$ on the car, but don't they ALL say that ???
Would any dealer do this ? At this point it IS close to their cost (but we never know EXACTLY what that # is anyway) ... I figured it at being around $26000 for the base TL, but they say it's higher. I figured it .. Invoice ($26913) - Holdback ($870) - Additional $ ($270) for a TRUE Dealer Cost of around $25773 ... so I was adding the extra $300 back ...
Even at $350 a month WITH tax, and only $600 due at signing, that IS a good deal for this car, he just didn't want to be that high in a monthly payment, and we all know about NOT putting money down at signing to lower the payment ...
Sorry for the long rant, THANKS AGAIN !!
Thanks again in advance!
Bill G
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Thanks for all the helpful info. You have answered quite a number of questions for me.
I will need to read more here, as I do not understand the significance of the cap cost.
Also, are buyouts always = MSRP x Residual? (or does one use the agreed upon selling price?
Best regards.
Thanks for the help.
Thanks again!!
Thanks for the info on the 48 month/15k lease for the Audi allroad. Are the 36 month/15k numbers still .00025 for the money factor and 54% for the residual? Also, if you don't mind, could you let me know what the MF and residuals are for an Audi A4 in central California for both 36/15k and 48/15k. Thanks.
Tom
in my previous post, i wasn't too clear about the options i am considering for the touareg. which do you think makes the most sense?
1) Option 1: Purchase a base v8 Touareg. Assumptions:
* Purchase price = MSRP = $41,250 (not too much discounting going around)
* With tax (8%) and title (1.5%), the total cost of the vehicle is $45,442.
* Special financing of 3.75% for 60 months.
* Tradein/Cash Down = $12,500
= Payments of 602.98/month for 60 months
2) Option 2: Here my numbers vary between the leasing article in edmunds and the leasing calculator. This is for a lease of 36 months at 15k miles/year.
* Total Cost of Vehicle = $42,729 (*This is somehow impacted by the security deposit and acquisition fee - that i haven't figured out)
* Security deposit $750, Acquisition Fee $500
* Money factor - 0.0020
* Residual - 56% or $23,100
* No money down
= Lease Payment = $731/month for 36 months
For me to have a lease payment matching the car payment above I would have to put $4000 down on the lease.
Well, with that said - I don't know if you have any thoughts as to which options would be the most appealing. Thanks again for the help and letting me know which option will put me inside the treg best!
went to dealer..this is for an 03 330i, check this out:
12,000 mi/year
42 month lease
MSRP = 40,445
invoice = $37,030
Car is in VA.
We agreed to $800 over invoice, so:
Negotiated Price = $38,190 (included in this is a 360 MACO fee, is that ok?)
residual = 53%
MF = .0016
He said that i would pay $1,391.97 up front for a $550 security deposit + tags + first payment + tax.
With that paid, I would have a $543.97 monthly payment.
When i run those numbers, im getting $494 before tax and $516 after it.
Also, when I told him I would be interested in giving multipe security deposits in place of a down payment, he looked at me like i was from mars :-8
55% residual
.0016 mf....what do i tell him about his inaccurate numbers?
Can you get me the info for a 2003 Honda S2000...
12,000 miles
36,39,42 months
Thanks!!!!
MSRP: $27,920
TMV: $24,385
Local Sales Tax: 9% (I live in New Orleans)
Miles: 10,000 (or lower)
Duration: 36 mths
Does the TMV represent the sale price of the car after incentives?
I've never leased a car before, so any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.