Ford Focus Hatchback ZX3 - Part VII

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  • norwaydougnorwaydoug Member Posts: 249
    Earlier, I posted a comment to proceed with caution when installing new gauges. I would be very concerned that one could damage the dash during disassembly.

    The dash of our zx-3 reminds me of many things that I have taken apart: easy to disassemble and a lot harder putting back together.

    I am in agreement with pcleveland regarding the installation of new white faced gauges: One could really screw-up.

    If you do proceed with the gauge transplant, please have a professional do it.

    The term, 'old hat' I used to describe my opinion of White Gauges means I think it is a little out of date now. I first saw it on a early 90s Maxima. Even a Sentra has white gauges now.

    Personally, I wish Ford would install a filter that allowed us to change the color of our spedometer from green to blue. My friend's killer 1991 Mitsu Galant 4x4 Turbo had a feature where he could turn the dash lights from green to orange with a touch of the button!

    Just be careful installing new gauges.

    ND
  • tuner1tuner1 Member Posts: 44
    Hello everyone i have been reading your posts for the last few weeks and have finally decided to join in. I'm currently waiting for delivery of my pitch black focus,i can't wait. For anyone interested in aftermarket parts,clear or smoked sidemarkers and turn signals are now available at www.nopi.com.I'm ordering a set of each and I don't even have my car yet! Is that focus fever or what.
  • zx3cdnzx3cdn Member Posts: 27
    Try using products like flashblack. There are specific products that will get the wax off of your trim, not just armourall.
  • drebe73drebe73 Member Posts: 243
    what kind of side markers are you getting? Are they the ones that are standard on the euro models of focus?
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Member Posts: 1,339
    Getting wax residue of plastic trim is pretty easy if you get some silicone/wax remover in the body repair section of a good auto parts store, or stop at a shop that sells auto finishing supplies and paints. It is a common product. You will want to wash the trim and treat the plastic with a good protectant (like Lexol Vinylex, not crap like Armorall) after you get the white residue off. Also, try using a better wax. Most of the products you see at the chain stores are junk. Try a quality carnauba wax like Blitz or Harly - you have to get this from an auto detail supplier, but it is worth it. Quality waxes don't white stain your trim.
  • zx3beastzx3beast Member Posts: 661
    good info siver bullet- my personal preference
    is a good quality carnauba as well. anyone inter-ested can order direct at :
    members.aol.comharlywax/home.html
  • fgaydosfgaydos Member Posts: 319
    Saw two car carriers today loaded with new Focus sedans and hatch's. Looked great.
    Think they were headed to a rental agency like Hertz as they had Fleet Carrier on the side.
  • tuner1tuner1 Member Posts: 44
    There direct replacements for the sidemarkers on the american style bumbers.If you have a dark color focus I recommend the smoked ones,if you have a lighter color the clear ones would look the best.
  • tuner1tuner1 Member Posts: 44
    I think white face gauges are becoming to common,someone commented on sentra's having them and he's right. Indiglo gauges are the way to go,but the question is do they make them for the ZX3 or when will they make them.
  • hkoenen2hkoenen2 Member Posts: 70
    In all the cars I have owned I do not remember ever waxing one but I do remember that years ago someone told me with the new paints on the cars wax really is not necessary. So I am wondering why go through all the trouble of waxing the car? Is there really a benefit to it or just make it shine a little better for the first 10 miles?
  • wildmothafocuswildmothafocus Member Posts: 5
    How does Zaino Bros. (www.zainobros.com) polishes compare to Harley and Blitz carnauba? Just curious- I've heard alot of good things about Zaino products, almost to good to be true, thinking about buying some.

    To hkoenen2- I think paint protection is necessary so that water beads up and rolls off, instead of drying and creating hard water spots that dulls the appearance.
  • zx3beastzx3beast Member Posts: 661
    a good quality carnauba is essential in maintaining
    a lasting finish.it helps to protect finish from
    acid rain,road tar,road salt,bird droppings,dust,
    dirt+pollen.it is true that car mfg.have made great strides in rust protection ,however a clearcoat
    still needs to be protected.a polish will remove
    paint.it may not be readily noticeable,but it is
    an abrasive.i have used polishes but only sparingly.quality carnauba is a natural substance.
    in my experience,nothing better to protect finish.
    dirt comes off a waxed finish easier.you can see +
    feel the difference.its worth the effort.
  • fgaydosfgaydos Member Posts: 319
    Consumers Reports did a review of car wax in the last issue.
    They warn that some wax/polish will actually scratch your finish. This effect was most noticeable with black painted cars.
    They recommend Zymol and NuFinish Paste for gloss.
    The NuFinish lasted longer than the Zymol.
  • mznmzn Member Posts: 727
    For more about car wax than you might ever want to know, see our Maintenance & Repair conference!

    carlady/host
  • hatchqueenhatchqueen Member Posts: 27
    Ok, Iam officially sick of hearing about the mustang. How 'bout Focus VS. Radio Flyer?
  • deanb34deanb34 Member Posts: 7
    Does anyone know (or used) this shifter to replace there automatic shifter (with O/D)? I saw the part on "carparts.com"
  • jedimaster1jedimaster1 Member Posts: 32
    I just waxed my car today...used Turtle Wax Emerald Series, which is a paste (and is also a 100% pure canauba blend). It worked really well, IMHO. However, some residual wax did end up on the plastic trim, creating that "whited" look. I will take Silver Bullet's advice on getting the wax remover to get it off. I have the last issue of Consumer Reports that Fgaydos mentioned, which rated the polishes and waxes. Turtle Emerald was down near the bottom of the list, but I have been a longtime user and fan of Turtle Wax, I have always been satisfied with how long the wax lasts on the car. However, I may try Nufinish the next time I wax the car, just to see the difference. My stepdad says I should use Nufinish because he says it does a better waxing job and that it also lasts a lot longer than Turtle Wax. So, I'll try that.

    On another note, if any of you ZX3 owners are looking for a good car cover for your car, I recommend Car & Driver's car cover. The medium cover easily covers the entire car, and it also has a zip-down part at the driver side area so you can get in your car (like me, forgot something after I covered it) when it is covered. It also has a travel bag which you can put the cover in when you are traveling. I have had my cover for about 5 weeks now and it is nice. It also cleans very easily, and it is made with something that reflects the sun's rays (makes them bounce back off) so that the inside of the car does not get very hot when covered. You can get this at most department stores (I got mine at Target) for about 35 bucks. It's worth the money.

    Clint
  • audiolizardaudiolizard Member Posts: 35
    I ordered my ZX3 with California emissions even though I live in Ohio for the moment. I was told that it may make the car slightly less efficient, but I was also told that it makes little to no difference in efficiency. Even if I don't move to CA, I can rest easy knowing that my car is burning as clean as possible. Did anybody else get CA emissions? How is the fuel efficiency?

    Also, I checked out the Ford Racing(or something like that) magazine with the yellow ZX3. After seeing the pictures, I'm glad I went with silver. I think I'd get tired of the yellow after a few months.

    Audiolizard
  • hugozhugoz Member Posts: 82
    Focuszx3er: thanks for the feedback on the excess oil. I may resort to changing my own as well. Any thoughts on synthetic vs regular oil?

    Waxes: I recently applied Turtle Wax "Finish 2001," and not only is the car even shinier, it really does make it easier to wipe crap off. Finish 2001 is supposed to last a year -- we'll see.

    Drove behind my wife while she drove my hatchling. First time I had seen the tail lights in action; they're cool! Another first: today a guy actually walked up to me while I was at a gas station and wanted to check out my car. After we chatted, I heard him saying to someone else, "what a beautiful car!" Yeah, that makes me feel pretty good. I still think this is the best car for the money I have ever bought.
  • utex97utex97 Member Posts: 2
    Just bought a ZX-3 and love it, but what is the redline? Also, how many miles should I put on it before I start to really rev the engine?
  • utex97utex97 Member Posts: 2
    I have a brand new 1 week old ZX-3, 5-speed. I really love it, but unfortunately for me, I need an automatic (for a certain family member). The dealer says I'll take a huge loss at this point if I trade it in, so would anyone like to trade their auto for my 5-speed? I live in the DC area, but would be willing to travel a short distance.

    This car is twilight blue, with ABS, side impact air bags, power locks, and remote entry. It has 500 miles. Will send photos if interested. Let me know if you are interested in buying this car too.

    mail to: utex97@msn.com

  • gabegarwickgabegarwick Member Posts: 127
    $80.00 for two little pieces of plastic? Hmm, sounds overpriced...
  • judasjudas Member Posts: 217
    This post was awhile ago, and I realize it's not on topic, but someone posted that todays Mustang was in no way the equal of the old mustang, and thats insane. Todays mustang will blow the doors off any of 60's and 70's stang powered by the 289, 302 or 351 in acceleration. Obviously its no match for a new one in handling or braking. Most 60's and 70's muscle/performance cars were seriously over rated. My old 400 CI GTO would absolutely get stomped by a new Stang or Camaro.
  • guyindaskyguyindasky Member Posts: 28
    Why not teach them how to drive a stick (if you don't mind a little wear on your clutch)???...Perhaps I'm just selfish, but if you are the one making the payments why have someone else who thinks it's too hard to drive a stick dictate what kind of car you own?...I'm sure I'll be flamed for giving my 2cents worth of insensitive advice.
  • tuner1tuner1 Member Posts: 44
    Actually the sidemarkers are $32.63,the turnsignals are the ones that are close to $80. There probably cheaper than the ford originals. Either way our hatchlings are worth it,don't you think? Here's the direct link for any one thats interested, www.nopionline.com/catalog/catalogs.asp
  • tuner1tuner1 Member Posts: 44
    Here's the direct link for that site: www.nopionline.com Sorry
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Member Posts: 1,339
    I realize it is a personal decision, But I for one don't understand why people want to put those stupid looking clear/white or smoked lenses on their cars. Call me weird, but I really like the way amber lenses look on a car. I just wish our US ZX3s had the same segmented red/amber rear lights that the Euro-spec cars have. To each his own, eh?
  • towcrazy2towcrazy2 Member Posts: 337
    TO ALL:
    Kind of discouraging to be waiting 8-10 weeks for delivery of that ZX3 (as my wife is) when you see them loaded on the piggyback, bound for a rental car outfit, isn't it?

    Ah well... Like it or not, ALL of the domestics have financial interest in one rental company or another (last check, Ford owned a good portion of Hertz). It's strictly a marketing move, and a SMART one!

    Through my years in sales training for Ford and others, the statistics will prove that once a salesperson has you in that car on a demo drive, the chances of your buying it are 75% or more. So, it only makes sense that Ford wants to fill the daily rental "pipeline" with ZX3s!

    In effect, the customer is actually PAYING Ford for a demo drive... and increasing the liklihood of purchasing that vehicle in the future.

    Perhaps it's not "fair" to those on the order list... But it's good business for the manufacturer!!!
  • tickbittytickbitty Member Posts: 250
    http://formen.ign.com/news/12013.html

    has sort of a "different" kind of review as well as a rear shot of the "R" and a focus"woodie" wagon!
  • hugozhugoz Member Posts: 82
    Tickbitty: thanks for that link. I think that is the best review yet that I have read; Jaz Rignall, the reviewer sums up best my own feelings about our hatchlings.

    Utex97: I feel bad for you because the 5-speed is part of the ZX3's persona. Sure you can't coax the "family member" into learning to use the stick? The shifting is pretty smooth.....I wish I could afford to buy your Malibu Blue hatchling.
  • hugozhugoz Member Posts: 82
    Tickbitty: thanks for that link. I think that is the best review yet that I have read; Jaz Rignall, the reviewer sums up best my own feelings about our hatchlings.

    Utex97: I feel bad for you because the 5-speed is part of the ZX3's persona. Sure you can't coax the "family member" into learning to use the stick? The shifting is pretty smooth.....I wish I could afford to buy your Malibu Blue hatchling.
  • gmanzx3gmanzx3 Member Posts: 37
    silver bullet

    Thanks for the update on the european wheels.
    I figured that they would be expensive.
    Let me know what you hear.

    BTW, I also agree with you on the amber turn signals. I wonder why Ford changed ours from the european setup. (I bet the back-up lenses were expensive to replace in our 5mph bumpers. I'm sure the Insurance companies had something to say about it too!)
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Member Posts: 1,339
    Gmanzx3, US cars with a dedicated amber flasher at the rear are very rare, and its too bad. Having one of your tail lights turn into a flasher never has made much sense to me, but I suppose it is less expensive that way. You are probably correct about the bumper mounted backup lights on Euro Foci - we get a better deal on our cars. Those high mounted back up lights really do the trick!
  • zx3cdnzx3cdn Member Posts: 27
    It's just the name of the trucking company. It has nothing to do with the destination of the cars being carried.
  • drebe73drebe73 Member Posts: 243
    I am planning to order the actual triangular fender side markers from Focusparts.com just like the ones that are standard on the Euro Foci. I have to admit that the Euro models are much nicer in regards to the lenses. I have seen in various photos online that their bumper has nice contoured indentations that fit the rounded edged lenses, plus the triangular fender markers, the amber in the break lights and the reverse lights in the rear bumper.
    Our models don't have the cool fender lights, which, I feel, give a nice expensive look, since most high end cars Lexus, BMW etc have the side markers on their fenders. I also think that our bumper turn signals are cheap looking compaired to the Euro models. We just have those small paralelagram looking lenses. I do like the fact that we have the amber turn signals in the front grill, I think they look really cool.
    You can see alot of good shots of the Euro lenses at the Focusparts.com site.

    A friend of mine had indiglo gauges installed in his Civic and I think they look great. What an improvement it would be from our generic gauges. I was thinking about getting them I think they cost my friend around 200 bucks. The disadvantage is that the people installing it kept breaking the needles during instalation and they have to be very careful not to misscalibrate the gauges. I am curious to see how long the indiglo lasts. I believe that I read somewhere that the indiglo watches tended to fade eventualy and I wondering if that is the same for the gauges.

    Update : My car is almost back to its former glory. I visited it this weekend and the inside was finally finished. I had asked a while back if anyone knew if their cars lights flashed when locking the doors by remote and beeped when pressed a second time. Whell I tried mine again and this time they did, I think the last time they didnt because that wireing was disconnected while waiting for the airbag sensor.
    It's the home stretch, fingers still crossed, I'm getting the nervous thrill again, have to get back into manual trans learning mode again.
    Later my fellow ZX3 teamates
  • pcleveland2pcleveland2 Member Posts: 516
    Check out "Zaino Experiences" under the Maintenance Topic.
    I used it on my ZX3 and am extremely pleased with the outcome. It's like looking in a mirror. Reflection of colors is fantastic. My ZX3 is Malibu Blue and other colors show up great. Really glows and shines. Can't compare it to the quality waxes you mention. Know that you get very little canauba in most of the waxes out there. Plus it yellows with age from what I've researched here on the net. I do now that some of the Mustang and Caramo Clubs here on the net rave about Zaino. Zaino claims to be 99.9% optically clear. Customer support (i.e. getting it off un-smooth plastic with out buying additional expensive products) has been great. You can even talk to the owner if you call him. Product very pricey, but I will buy again. Have no connection to the company. Do your homework before you buy anything along this line. There's good info here on Edmunds and elsewhere on the web.
    Have to admit that I'm sold on Zaino! But I think I still open minded on the subject. Right now my ZX3 looks better than it did coming off the dealers lot, and better than any I've seen on the road.
    Pat
  • pcleveland2pcleveland2 Member Posts: 516
    Utex97, Sounds live some driver training is the best bet. Maybe you should find someone else to do the training if your not up to it. Somebody who stays calm after gears grind. Start on the flat in a big empty parking lot. And then work out on side roads graduating to busy hwys and hills. Nothing to it. If my wife can do it, anybody can. Hope she doesn't read this. As she still doesn't like hills, but she doesn't take 30 mile detours to go around them anymore.
    Pat
  • norwaydougnorwaydoug Member Posts: 249
    Well...I drove an automatic zx-3 for about a half hour last week and I assure you that the 5 speed is the way to go. Do not sell your beautifully equipped Focus! Please teach your family member to drive a stick. They will find that the increased control, performance and enjoyment will be well worth it.

    The automatic in the Focus is pretty good (Mazda design), but the 5 speed is just so much better with its communicative clutch and its positive engaging shifter. It's a pretty good 5 speed in my opinion. The shifter seems solid and not flimsy or overly sensitive.....good job, Ford.

    I am in agreement with everyone regarding the lights. I like the back up lights in the upper vertical rear lens too.

    I was once behind a zx-3 during a rainy dark afternoon and its rear vertical light looked pretty impressive. The driver was really cooking too! Of course, I was not driving a zx-3 at the time (but I am now!).

    I wish the car had side markers as the euro model and Drebe73 is right about the current amber front bumper signals...they look cheap. The grill lights look good, but I wish the grill was honeycomb like the euro ZX-3 (trend model) rather than the horizontal (ambient model). The Ambient model is like the SE sedan.

    I am beginning to really like the color combination of my zx-3. It is forest green with the charcoal interior. I actually think the amber rear light would make it look even cooler. The forest green is also available in Europe under a different name. All is well with my zx-3. No serious flaws at all so far. I have noticed the steering wheel is slightly turned to the right when I drive straight. Has anyone noticed this? It tracks perfectly straight, but when I look at the steering wheel it is slightly to the right. I am in no rush to go to the dealer to say the least and it doesn't concern that much, but I would appreciate the advice.

    Good luck Drebe. I am truly looking forward to your return on the roads as a lot of other concerned people!

    I realize this is a long post, but I am just thrilled to be back on the road. Love my zx-3!

    ND
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Member Posts: 1,339
    ND, my wheel was not quite centered either when I picked up my car. Since this is a pet peeve of mine, I returned to the dealer the next morning and they got it perfectly straight by performing a standard front end alignment and making a small adjustment at the tie rods. It took an hour and was a warranty item, hence no charge.
  • calico1calico1 Member Posts: 52
    Hi, everyone--

    Tickbitty, thanks for the link. Pretty cool.

    I am still wondering if I am the only one who has to fight with my seatbelt to get it out of its holster and across my chest? Such contortions might not have been so painful in my younger years, but geez! Any suggestions?

    I had several compliments (some from strangers!) over the past week in my calicomobile. I told every one of my complimenters about the wonders of the hatchling, but told them also not to get their hopes up about getting one any time in the immediate future.

    Oh, and the steering wheel....I have no such leaning on mine, but I have a new steering wheel that came with the cruise control.

    Please help with the seatbelt. It's probably just my car, but I'd like to know that for sure before I complain to the dealer about it.

    Thanks, gang--
    Calico
  • hugozhugoz Member Posts: 82
    I guess some of us got lucky: my steering wheel has always been dead-on-center...one of the things I truly love about my hatchling.

    I share calico's frustration on the seat belt contortionism. Here's one solution: relax, take a deep breath and exhale while calmly pulling the bottom of the belt forward along the bottom rail; then, gently pull (do not tug) the belt across your chest. This is only thing you can do to minimize neck/shoulder strain, short of pushing your seat way back. I call my method "zen and the art of zx3 seat belt buckling."
  • jheitmanjheitman Member Posts: 15
    I don't try to turn around to get the belt with my right hand. Try facing forward, and reach down backward, with your left hand, down along the door and grab the belt near the floor in the rear, and then pull forward. It works much much easier.
  • silver_bulletsilver_bullet Member Posts: 1,339
    Sorry gang - I don't suffer from this problem. I'm 6'5", and drive with the seat all the way back. Reaching the seatbelt is a snap! ;-) BTW- my fiancee decided to sell her 2000 Passat, because it is just way more car than she needs. Guess what we're going shopping for tomorrow night? Yessir - another two ZX3 couple! A 5-speed for her, too, and if she can get over her aversion to being a copycat, we may have a pair of "silver bullets"! She's rather petite, so I'll pass on the seatbelt tips.
  • jedimaster1jedimaster1 Member Posts: 32
    I don't remember noticing a steering wheel problem when I bought my car, I only had it for about a week, then I took it back to the dealership to get cruise installed on it. Got a new steering wheel with it, it's really nice.

    I haven't had any problems with the seat belt. I just reach back with my left arm and grab it. I actually like the fact that it's that far back, because it's out of my way when I take it off and get out of the car!

    I got my chrome Focus cup today (for the recall fix). It will stay filled in the mornings with Mountain Dew (I'm NOT a coffee drinker, bleh).

    I was filling my car with gas yesterday and two guys were at the other side of the pump, and they both came over to check out my car. I had gone in to pay and came out and saw them standing before my hatchling, their eyes really big and mouths agape. Heh...we ZX3 owners are an elite group!

    Clint
  • zx3beastzx3beast Member Posts: 661
    norway-that wheel should be definitely dead-on
    center.thats one of the main reasons i prefer fords.they usually get that part right on all their
    models.by the way,i went for a leisurely ride down
    roosevelt blvd.except everyone seemed to want to race at every stoplight.
    to the person considering auto trans-youll regret
    it later-once you learn stick-youll never go back
    fun factor will be gone.ive been driving stick 30
    yrs.the zx3 is the easiest yet.ayoung lady at work
    just got a 4dr.focus stick-never driven one before
    one week later you would never know it.
  • zx3zx3 Member Posts: 167
    To All:
    "Choosing Between Two Colors Ain't So Easy".

    Today was very bright, sunny, a cloudless sky. So, I dropped by the local Ford dealer, headed to back of the lot --- where many factory-new Focus cars were parked (sedans, and two Z-hatchlings).
    I was interested only in the Z's ... a "Silver" Z, and "Autumn-Orange" Z.

    Here are my impressions of the two hatchlings, as they sat parked (partly in brilliant sunlight, partly in shade)..........

    The Silver Z glistened, like bright silver (where sun was hitting it directly) and the part of it that was in the shade was a subdued, Platinum.
    The overall effect was one of quiet, expensive refinement. Rich. I really, liked it.
    Also, the Silver Z looks classy, in the rain. It really does. Check for yourself.
    Walk around one sometime when it's parked in the rain, sitting there, all beaded with raindrops. The effect is really nice...an expensive-looking, a classy-looking, car.
    With custom-painted Black Bumpers/Black Lower Side Panels --- that Silver Z would be even more Supremely Cool --- an "Absolute-Knock-Out"!!

    Now, I turned to the Autumn Z, parked next to it.
    Where the bright-sun bounced off it directly --- it was a brilliant fiery-Autumn color, blazing like the Autumn-leaves of a New England hillside in September/October ("Gold"/"Orange"/"Red-ish"). Absolutely awesome.
    The part of the Autumn Z, that was not in sunlight (but was in partial-shade) looked like a Red ... and the part that was in full-shade, seemed like a Maroon Red.
    Yes, more than ANY other car-paint I've seen --- the Autumn Z, seems to be different colors -- depending on "how bright" the sunlight shining on it is, or "how dark" the shadows on it are.
    Like a Chameleon, it seems to "radically change color" with time-of-day or weather. Wow. Way cool.

    Hmmmm, How will I decide here? Flip a Coin?

    If you guys had to choose "one-of-the-two", WHICH would it be, and WHY?
    Thanks to all.
    ZX3
  • zx3zx3 Member Posts: 167
    Somehow, the title got chopped-down, to one word (Silver) when I posted #97.
    This new title is the correct one.
  • teamzx3yellowteamzx3yellow Member Posts: 21
    Zinc Yellow
  • kevnyboykevnyboy Member Posts: 4
    zx3...
    I had checked out almost all of the colors available in person before I choose the Autumn Orange, which was the one color I had not seen!

    Your point about the fact it seems to change color in the light is very true, and something I really like, adds a little more style to a well designed car. When the car is waxed, and in the sun, like this past weekend, it really stands out. Most people when they see the car mention the color first,asking what color it is, before they ask about the car itself.

    I do like the silver as well, although it did not make my short list of color choices, some of the other metallic clear-coats are real nice too.

    Enjoy whatever color you choose...
    Kevin
  • hugozhugoz Member Posts: 82
    Hey guys/gals,

    (silver bullet) I didn't realize you were so tall, but you confirmed what I had said, which is that if you push the seat way back, no sweat with the belt. This only underscores, of course, the problem with any "one size fits all" design, but no big deal ... us normal sized folks just need to be patient and use my "zen" method. BTW, a ZX3 couple -- that is radical! Funny thing, I'm actually thinking about selling my wife's Honda Accord and getting her ZX3 also. Are we all nuts or what?

    (jedimaster1) I concur with your observation re the belt being far back -- that is a plus, never having to worry about getting caught on the belt as you exit!

    (zx3beast) Looks like we share the same feelings about the dead-on-center steering. Knock on wood, let's hope the steering stays that way.

    (x3) My hatchling is Autumn Orange and I've noticed the same color-shifting, especially since I applied Turtlewax's "Finish 2001." Now it really gleams. A neighbor got the same orange on a brand new Ford Truck, and he noticed the same color shifting. It is cool, however, (teamzx3yellow) I think my next hatchling maybe Zinc Yellow with the 16" wheels, but right now I'm just dreaming ...
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