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The pricing is also big issue. I see this practice of high list and high incentives/rebates serving dealers only (it gives them more potential play room), perhaps not even them. Everybody else loses. Uninformed customer does not even know that they can get 3 or even 6 large discount, so they don't even bother checking. Informed customer laughes at the sticker.
New 9-2X is a perfect example: first messed up the product that had great potential (just see sales of Impreza/WRX in previous years); instead of really reworking it and getting something really significant inside (like "Swedish" interior, negotiate Sti engine for Aero trim, etc.), they just changed sheet metal (nicely, I may admit) and slapped the badge. Then they slapped totally ridiculous price premium (esp.on Linear trim, but also for Aero) for virtually no other value than new sheet metal and badge. Result? Now I read reports of selling prices being close or even below the original. They ended up hurting themselves and Subaru as well.
As much as I find Saab's styling or interior compelling, not knowing the real price is a major annoyance. Not to mention those poor folks who would buy sticker in the first month of the model just to learn about the incentive few months later...
2018 430i Gran Coupe
What is the real world fuel economy for these vehicles?
Thanks,
Felix
I think i might be encountering the same problem. Do you get it at certain RPM? I get a sound around 2,000 RPM which is also supposedly from my transmission.
Please, someone enlighten me. :confuse: :confuse:
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Chris
my 'memory' might be kind of fuzzy, but aren't the memory seat controls actually on the seat?
what i would do, is after someone drives your car, press your memory button before you get in(with the door open). if they reset it for you, you are all set. otherwise the it will adjust for you. does this help?
as an engineer I would think the use of higher than 87 octane would be a complete waste of money...unless a) you have to drive up gigantic hills everyday or b) drive like you are in a race constantly...I believe the aero has a slightly higher pressure turbo than the linear so the fuel may tend to ignite "earlier", this is the knock referred to as a ping...this can be corrected in 99% of all engines requiring premium by simply accelerating softer...also fyi nearly every computer controlled ignition system sold on the market today has a knock or "ping" sensor mounted on the engine block, when preignition is detected the DI module retards the spark to prevent early ignition...what all this means is you have to try really hard to get your car to knock...the difference in power & hence mpg of 93 over 87 is at best 2 to 3%...I run 87 in my linear and have never had a problem
good luck,
Tony
addressing many of the questions that my customers raise.As to the effect on performance of regular vs. premium fuel on the 9-5 Aero,the effect is significantly greater than you propose.An article in Car and Driver in 2001 dyno tested the Aero using premium and regular fuels.The Trionic engine management system dialed down the power by 9.8%,almost 25 H.P.on an '05 model,performance at the track(acceleration tests) was down 10.1%. Your Linear does not require premium to deliver peak performance,any Aero will run fine but at a noticeably reduced level of performance.
I had a new 99 9-5 SE V6, best car ever, less problems than the 04 Avalon I replaced it with. Yes, Saab had less problems than an Avalon. Better gas mileage also.
Now I am buying my 4th Saab (Aero Wagon) to replace a Suburban. I don't know why everyone freaks with a 4 banger with Saab. They are bullet proof engine's and if you didn't lift the hood, you would think you had a 6 or small 8. Whats wrong with 30mpg on the highway with a car as large as a 9-5? Perfect high gas car IMO. People who complain about Saabs 4 cyl, don't know Saabs or have driven them. Look on ebay, look at the 4 cyl Saabs with over 100K miles, pretty good. Saab is not BMW or Mercedes, but hey, we didn't pay that price. For a low 30K car, its a good safe, "different from the crowd" car.
I have a final price of $32,025 for 2005 Parchment silver Aero Wagon. It has approximately 5500 miles (a demo-but still new car financing) and has Executive package and Sentronic auto. Is this a good price on a Aero wagon? Tax will be another $2000 or so OTD price would be $34,285 here in Texas. Even though it's a 2005, 2006 remodels will arrive at the dealership soon. Dealership is giving me over $12,000 in discounts, but I think I could pull even better price if I could wait just a bit longer...Also, is Parchment silver a popular color? I could live with the color, but I am concerned in a long run if I ever have to trade this car.
Any thoughts would be appreciated.
1) The 9000 v6 GM engines requierd a timing belt change every 30k. Believe me, I had one and yes, the belt failed inbetween changes = pretty blady damaged engine.
2) The 9-5 v6 recommends changes every 60k, and they are not 100% free changes. I think they cover the belt itself. There is also some rumors about issues with the timing belt idler pullys, etc. that dealers try and get you to do and then add on big dollars.
Being an avid Saab owner, I will NEVER purchase a GM v6 engine in a Saab again. The v4's are PLENTY and I wish now that I would not have purchased a v6 2001 9-5 wagon. I might sell it and find a used v4.
Don't get me started on the envoy platform for the Saab SUVs (why oh wy aab SUVs?).
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Eventually car would not restart - ignition cassette burned up - this is a pending recall from Saab, supposedly later in 06, so if it happens to you get Saab to pay for it ($500)as I did.
Then it happened again - shop found ignition sensor was bad - replaced ($300) on me.
Then reason it went bad was a coolant leak damaged the sensor.....I got rid of the car....good luck.
I run the Michelin Alpins on my 01 9.5 sedan and have since new (same set). Great in snow and ice. Not a soft tire so it wears if asked to be driven on pavement. I think Michelin have been replaced with the X-ice. When I get new ones, will likely go with X-ice. Won't look around much.
Can you tell me if Saabs need to be serviced at special shops or can most regular places do the rountine stuff, oil change, brakes, rotate and balance. I have a convienient shop I trust, but I was also wondering if service on a car like a Saab is costlier. I like what I have read so far. I just am a bit concerned about the servicing issue. :confuse:
Does anyone know if the cargo track bolts for the 99-05 wagons will fit the 06? The ones for the 06 carry a separate stock number, look different and are sold invidually rather than as a set of four.
Note that my car is not an Aero model.
If you have an Aero or 2002 or newer 9-5 a minimum of 16" wheels are needed to clear the calipers, otherwise 15" wheels will fit. Used alloy wheels are not expensive or hard to find on places like ebay. Just search for "Saab Wheels". I have two sets and run summer only tires in the summer, and winter only tires in the winter. That way I maximize the performance for each season. All-season tires only maximize mediocrity in all seasons.
- Chad
Oh my gosh! Could someone explain to me why I should stay away from the SE V6? I'm currently looking at a 2001 SE V6 wagon and is about to pull the trigger. Thanks in advance!
Are there many aftermarket products available for the 2006 yet?
I actually like the 9-3 SportCombi, but having two kids think it may turn out to be too small.
Thanks,
Tim
It has more than enough power, a quiet and roomy interior and exceptionally comfortable seats. I have a wagon without the sport package. The cargo capacity is quite a bit larger than my last wagon, a 2000 Passat, and it carries much more than my wife's XC70 where the rear drive mechanicals raise the cargo floor by 6-8".
Styling is a matter of taste. I like the new front on lighter color cars (mine is steel gray) but think it looks a bit odd on the dark ones. The interior is well fitted and mostly high quality materials except for a few pieces of cheap plastic around the shift lever and behind the door handles. The sound system is excellent, although I wish it had a cassette player.
There are a few things that I do not like, but consider them fair trade-offs in what all-in-all is a very high value package: There is very little storage space in and around the dash, especially if you want two cupholders and therefor keep the insert in the console. The front seats have front pockets that are not convenient to reach while driving, and the storage pockets in the doors are small. I would like to see some in dash cubbies or overhead storage for glasses and other small items. The sole in-dash cupholder is elegant but flimsy. Strange for a car in this class the windows are one touch down but not up. I also would like to see a fold-flat front passenger seat as in Volvo wagons.
The only major flaw, IMO is in the paddle system for the shiftable automatic transmission. You must first move the shift lever to the rear and then use the paddles to shift up and down. You then must move the shift lever forward to resume full automatic. This is awkward and inefficient, and becomes very annoying in use. Much better to control it all either with the paddles or the console lever as with the 9-3 and every other "manumatic" I have driven.
The paddles were the only thing that almost turned me away from the car, but were not annoying enough to overcome its many virtues and great value. I will never like them, but no longer grumble each time I use them.
Thanks again!
Tim