Subaru Impreza Outback Sport & TS

I am currently interested in buying my first new
car and just recently test drove the Outback Sport
and really liked the performance. Even though I'm
not crazy about the styling (it bears an amazing
resemblence to an AMC Pacer on steroids), I really
don't mind, because it's perfomance and utility
more than make up for it. I'm sorry! I'm rambling
again. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could
give me any input as to which options are worth it
and which are not. I'm kind of a gadget freak, so I
am interested in the optional gauge pack, but I'm
also on a budget and I don't know if its worth it.
Secondly, I've heard a lot about the OBS that's
good, but I was wondering if anyone has anything
bad to share. ANYTHING anyone can tell me about
about the car or experiences that owners have had
would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Rick
car and just recently test drove the Outback Sport
and really liked the performance. Even though I'm
not crazy about the styling (it bears an amazing
resemblence to an AMC Pacer on steroids), I really
don't mind, because it's perfomance and utility
more than make up for it. I'm sorry! I'm rambling
again. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone could
give me any input as to which options are worth it
and which are not. I'm kind of a gadget freak, so I
am interested in the optional gauge pack, but I'm
also on a budget and I don't know if its worth it.
Secondly, I've heard a lot about the OBS that's
good, but I was wondering if anyone has anything
bad to share. ANYTHING anyone can tell me about
about the car or experiences that owners have had
would be highly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Rick
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Another thing to take into consideration is gas mileage. The Impreza does not have favourable mileage numbers compared to its competitors (e.g. Civic EX, Corolla, Saturn SL2/SW2).
intake... dunno. I got mine in a GB for $99.95 everything. I bought my K&N filter from my local auto store for cheap.
The catback system is fully Brullen.
is alway "more preferable" than traction control. This is at least true for every automotive magazine comparison I've read comparing the BMW 3 class cars versus Audis w/ Quattro.
Also, gas mileage is misleading since Subarus are driving twice the number of wheels. Civics, Corollas and Saturns are two wheel drive vehicles. I would hope that these cars would have a better mpg.
the outback sport has ABS, air, power window/locks, alloy wheels, hood scoop, 2 tone paint, 205/60 R15 and few other nick nacks that the Brighton does not. It all adds up to the sticker price. I have hte OBS and it is really great to drive. Only thing I dislike is the rough sound when it's on low gears.
As I see it, the Brighton is a very stripped down Legacy L. Am I correct? Are there any other major differences beside not having the interior extras? The Impreza Wagon has power windows, mirrors, and locks, which I would like to have. However, the Impreza looks as though it won't haul very much stuff because of the way the rear window is sloped. Any experiences with this? I'm comparing this to a Honda Civic EX 4 door, which is fully loaded for the same price. Will the Impreza, with the rear seat up, haul as much as a Civic or any other small sedan?
I do like the Impreza Sedan, but the rear seat doesn't have a 60/40 split. This severely limits the hauling abilities.
I need to stay around $16k, so I can't afford to step up to the Legacy L, which looks to be around $18k.
Good Luck!
Rich
My thoughts are now, after reading your post, that the Impreza wagon will probably haul everything I want it to, but will be packed so full as to cover the windows (which is fine). I think I can find someone, maybe even Subaru, who makes a metal grate that fits behind the rear seat to keep stuff from shifting forward. Also, if it came down to it, I could get an enclosed luggage carrier that fits on the top, like Thule or Yakima.
I don't agree with your comments about the Brighton coming "well decked out for the money." The Impreza Sedan, which sells for about $1500 less, comes with more goodies. The Impreza Wagon, which sells for the same price, also comes with more goodies. I realize this is purely marketing. If Subaru put all of that on the Brighton, then you have a Legacy L. I just think the Brighton is a little too stripped down for the money.
From our standpoint, emphasizing comfort and carrying capacity as well as safety and reliability, we were pleasantly surprised by the Saturn SW2. They seemed to have licked their noise problem, and despite what we've read about it in some places, the seats seemed comfortable to us. I think it's probably targeted to a different
market than the Impreza, but if what you want is a compact wagon, it's worth checking out. (I've read some positive things about the Ford Escort wagon as well, but my wife has had bad experiences with Fords, so we weren't considering one.)
Good luck,
Lorin
I test drove a 1999 Escort, but was not impressed. It supposedly has a slightly bigger engine than my 1995 Escort, but the performance was about the same. I need something with more kick to it. I live in Denver and go over the mountains quite a bit.
I test drove an Impreza Sedan climbing one of the major hills west of Denver. I was going 60mph in 5th gear, which I found acceptable for a 4-banger. So, the sporty handling is fine and actually welcomed by me and my wife.
It seems like we had two different experiences.
Good Luck on your purchase.
ultra,
My statement wasn't very clear. I meant that the Brighton is a good value for the money. I think that what you get in the Brighton for what you pay makes it a good value, a large wagon with very generous cargo room that still does include a/c and cass/stereo. Also look into some of Subaru's roof rack attachments that are made for the OBS.
Rich
The roofrack for the Brighton is an option which runs about $160 for the dealer. I think the retail price is about $250.
just add what option you want.
My OS had a 2.2 (5 sp) engine with plenty of get up and go, which I enjoyed. However, living in MI with lots of snow and leaving for work early in the morning sometimes before roads were plowed, the low clearance meant slow going, but I always got there. The car sticks to the road no matter what.
I am a small woman and the front seats were comfortable for me although the upholstery was a bit thin in my opinion.
One thing I will mention is that the paint seemed to chip EXTREMELY easily. I thought perhaps it was just modern-day paint jobs, but I'm not so sure. After two years I had a couple of door dings but MANY small spots, especially on the hood, I had to touch up. This was pretty much on the top half of the two-tone (blue). The metallic portion wasn't too bad.
For whatever this is worth . . . .
retiring my '89 Ford Escort for a '99 OBS. The
OBS appealed to me on a practical level, with
ABS and AWD (I live in New England), better
head room that the new Escorts and Contours, plus
I found it fun to drive.
The dealer was, I guess, clearing away the 99's.
The optional equipment included fog lights, mats,
tailpipe cover and keyless entry. Plus some
pinstriping. The price was dealer invoice minus
$750 Subaru rebate. I think it's a lot of car
for $16,758, and I hope it lasts me another 10
years/160,000 miles as my Escort did.
Rather than a $30K SUV, you might look at a minivan. I know they aren't as trendy, but typically have more versatility in the cargo area, are cheaper, and get better gas mileage. I guess the question is how often do you go off road and need the SUV's 4wd?
Just my £0.02 worth.
James
I went to three dealers when I shopped around.
Two "brick and mortar" and one via the Internet.
What I came up with was:
$16,345 w/ floor mats and tailpipe
extender (Carpoint.com)
$16,745 no options (Local dealer #1)
$16,758 fog lights, keyless, mats,
tailpipe extender, pinstripes (Local
dealer #2)
OBS. The performance, handling and convenience
features are superlative. But I do have one
complaint: the driver's seat is not comfortable
on a long drive!
I took the car on my first long drive a few days
ago and after 90 minutes my lower back was hurting! I *think* the problem is lack of leg
support for my right leg. I'm trying different
support ideas to see if I can alleviate the problem.
So, just a word of caution: if the seats in the
OBS are significantly different from whatever
you are currently driving, see if you can get
a real long test drive in before you purchase!
Just want to add..... I was at a sweeping fast arc hook turn yesterday during a heacy rain. I believe the regular speed is 30km/h..... and most ppl would break entering the the turn. I went in at 60..... I thought I lost it. It was not until I got out and asked my friend wasn't that scary that they realised I was going in that fast. I thought I was about to lose it but all these time the OBS was holding the slippery road like a cat which refuse to slip. I just got a new found respect for this car. I'm convinced at that condition, no regular car would've got out of that turn without hitting the side bank of trees. I love this car!!!
As for the engine noise- believe me, as time wears on, you start to really enjoy the distinctive sound in low gears. It's like an old friend after my 4 years in a Legacy wagon.
As for price, here's what I received:
Base model, plus: mats, pinstriping, hood deflector, tailpipe cover, keyless entry, active/passive security, cruise control & ski rack for $17,707. This was after much haggling and many salesman-trips-to-the-manager. It's a silver model.
I'm excited to get out and drive- I can't wait for winter.
---bkperry
They're not even Ford Escort (my old car) type comfort! My opinion, of course. The firm seat
and small amount of leg support just don't work
for me for an extended trip.
The car does handle well, though, and I look
forward to my first New England winter drive.
and OBS is. I paid $1000 more than Alancit
did in msg #29 when I bought in July. Perhaps
some of this pricing is regional. Outbacks
are very popular in New Hampshire and used
ones are few and far between. Don't know
what kind of deal I could swing today on a
99 - but I'll bet I'd pay less that two months
ago!
what (on the OBS) is the hood scoup for?
Is it a good car?
The hood scoop is decorative, "agressive" styling.
Is it a good car for you? Depends on your criteria.
Thanks,
first got the car. (1999 OBS).
Re: snow, I'm looking forward to my first
New England winter. Got stuck twice last year
in my Escort, so the AWD was my prime consideration in a new car.
OK.... if you just want a basic AWD Impreza wagon and you don't need the OBS extra off road capability and it's spunky look, then go for the L wagon as you can add your own accesories. I test drove both and apart for the fact that the OBS makes you feel like a Rally driver, both handles the same. I would say that the L wagon would be lighter therefore faster too! On moderate dirt gravel, almost any car can handle it. I picked up the OBS because it came with ABS and that hood scoop too. Also the alloy wheels looked awesome on the OBS. I found out that it's a feature that's not offered on the US OBS. (so sad.) By the time you add teh accessories, the price difference would almost be the same..... I'm not sure about the incentives and the rebates anymore. I'm just tuning up my OBS right now.....
There was another OBS exactly like mine one the lot, so I asked the salesperson that I would like to look at the other one. So we went to it, and checked it out also...SAME PROBLEMS. We told the service man about this and he told the salesperson to take it off the lot also. Has anybody seen this type of problem before? Please email me back at hwilson@syntellect.com
Thanks,
Herbie Wilson
We love to dicuss the OBS here! I love my 99 OBS! Did you test drive on yet?