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Either way, I don't regret ordering the Sube, but more competition is always nice.
If it gets AWD it would be kind of slow.
-juice
The cargo capacity is only 24.4 cu ft with the seats folded down (19.8 cu ft with the seats up). I wonder if that's a typo...
Oh well, too many sacrifices for that pretty face.
Makes you wonder if they forget to convert the visors to left hand drive ... domestic market goof?
Stephen
Don't complain just here!!! Email Subaru and let them know how you feel. I have!
I wonder if the mirror wasn't put on the driver's side because most of the time people drive alone in a car. If you really want a mirror on the right side, buy a small mirror and some double stick tape or adhesive, and just stick it on.
Ramon: we have what are called "love bugs" down here in May and November. They are useless black bugs that are almost always doubled up mating, so you hit two at a time. They don't seem to have any natural predators or any real place in the ecosystem which is a real enigma. In the city they are minimal. However, my older son has to drive his white Legacy GT to Disney where he is on the night construction crew and going out there they are BAAAAD. And the mosquitoes leaving blood splotches on his grill. He's pretty ticked off about it.
Orangelebaron: Don't knock the upholstery in the new 2002's. I did before I bought one and couldn't see the sense. But here in Florida I can attest to the fact that this uphostery is much cooler feeling to your legs, especially when you're wearing shorts, than the older fabric. This stuff is really comfortable to sit on in hot weather and I wouldn't have dreamed this just looking at it. But they clean really well (I know, my son got a big dirty footprint on one of the front seats a few days after I got the car) so it must not be natural fiber, which puzzles me as to why it's so cool feeling.
Please be sure that if you e-mail Subaru to complain that you also compliment them on some of the added bonuses. That rear cargo light is great along with the front map lights, LOUDER horn, better quality carpet, heavier duty seats, much nicer highway ride, bigger rims, really great looking wheels, rear headrests with center 3-pt. seatbelt, CD player, see, they really didn't rip us off that much! I could probably list more if I sat here and thought some more. Oh, yeah, the odometer stays lit when the car is off, too.
A lot of that little stuff has been added since my '98 Forester. I guess they are re-contenting.
-juice
wow celeste! your son has a legacy GT? which model? I really dig the current model. It's very classy! The older one was nice too...more rugged. Actually i secretly wished that the new Impreza would sport those nice Legacy headlights....but alas, they went with the err.... nevermind. It's all good.
I don't know why everyone cracks on the OBS seats. I didn't think they were that bad, although I was sitting on plastic during the test drive. VW owners always complain how their cloth seats tenaciously hold onto fur and lint which to me would be much more of a pain, so I hope it's not the case with the imprezas.
Then again I didn't notice the cheap visors so I guess I'm not observant.
I have to agree on the visors, though. Cheap, cheap, like the kind you'd find in a JC Whitney catalog if you shopped only by price.
-juice
We don't need to e-mail SoA. There's an SoA rep that checks these forums and forwards our comments to Product Planning. ;-)
Dennis
-juice
Dennis
Oh, you can add the Forester L to that list. $19,005 at fitzautomall.com, and it meets all the criteria. So I guess there are 3.
-juice
Stephen
Dennis
Any suggestions, I would appreciate it!
p.s. I was driving home yesterday, glanced in my rearview mirror and there was a WRX sedately looking back at me...I rolled down my window to give him a thumbs up but he had already passed me by then...(not because he was driving fast, it takes forever to roll down my window!)
Ateixeira: The 2002 OBS had the outside temp gauge which I don't need, I can tell you it's hot most of the time here, and the regular odometer and trip odometer that display one above the other. You can see both at once, and they stay on when you turn the car off, unlike the 2000 OBS.
Brekke: My 2000 OBS didn't seem bad with dirt/lint, but then I vacuumed about every 4 to 6 weeks. For people that take their dogs around alot, someone (I forget which club, now) used packaging tape (stick strips of it to seat to remove hair, pull off) and said it works like a charm, much easier than trying to vacuum all those little short hairs off when all they do is dig in further!
It seems to me those with alot of paint problems drive where there are alot of gravel/ rocks. Like Alaska, near the Rockies, etc. If you do alot of city driving you may not notice much damage. After a year with my 2000 OBS the only slightly small nick is one I put there myself!
Cool, Celeste. I'd like the temp gauge just to know when temps are freezing to look out for bridges and such. Usually with AWD I don't notice.
-juice
Nice choice. The new Legacy GT in white are just plain icy cool. Well now then, u can always drive your son's GT whenenver you feel like romping thru the gears now too!
The vanity mirror should be on the passenger side, unless it's on both sides.
Reminds me of the RAV4 owners that were defending the wrong-way opening rear hatch. It's cost-cutting, clear as day.
-juice
I agree with Juiceman. that's pure BS. If I were you, I'd head off to your nearest Subaru dealer and ask for a GC8 model's passenger side visor which has the proper vanity mirrors. It's just a blatant BS from Subaru. Now I am pissed too.
As a side note, I really hate corporate responses like that listed in post#627. The arrogance that somehow Subaru buyers are going to believe that this BS isn't (as Juice put it) Marketing babble-speak is anger-inducing. OK...maybe I'm projecting but still burns my butt!!
Stephen
If it bothered me a lot I'd just order the ones from the Forester S, but it doesn't.
-juice
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Ramon: Yep the intake's on and wow what a difference. It shifts thru the gears quicker in drive, even tho' on my next tank of gas I'm going to leave it in 3rd in town, I just hate when it's trying to fish for overdrive before it's really needed. The sound is cool. I went for a drive after doing the ECU reset last night and went in a large industrial park where no fear of cops could intimidate me from getting the RPM's up in 1st and 2nd gear, as the instructions tell you to do. Whoa, my kid's sitting next to me and just giggling with glee he can't contain himself. Then today I let him drive past me in a lot, starting where I couldn't see him take off, and I could hear the roar before he came into sight around the building. It was cool. By the way, he's getting pretty good at doing slides in the dirt using the emergency brake, what do you call them, "power slides", can flip the car around 180 degrees in the opposite direction.
He has a friend who's in college and looking at Audi's. We're trying to convince him to get a WRX. So he and my son go test driving cars every week and no WRX's around, so for fun take out the new 6-cyl. Outback. This friend of his was totally impressed with the way it handled in a dirt lot compared the Audi's he's test driven. We're still working on him...... he'll be a convert soon...... They're going to the Audi lot tomorrow so the saleman can show my kid how much better Audi's handle than Subie's. Boy, that poor man doesn't know what he's in for!
I noticed that it got a little twitchy approaching triple digits. Anyone else have this experience or know of anying tips to settle it down? I do not have the rear spoiler if that makes a difference. I was wondering if the OBS starts to develop a lift issue at high speeds.
However, it just involved taking off a big plastic box-type thing that is the existing air intake, and connecting the new intake where the old one came off. The Ganzflow is basically a big machined aluminum tube about 3 or 4 inches in diameter, and it just gets clamped on the place the old intake went into the air filter. The other end goes thru a hole in the body of the car, under the hood, that connects with the inside space of the front fender. If you needed a picture of it connected we could send you some. It sounds really cool. Larry Ganz' instructions also have pictures and you can download these off the internet from the site listed below.
Larry Ganz sells a kit with an air filter and intake for $145.00. You can find it at www.ImprezaRS.com or fax him at 719 623-0253 (fax and voice mail). This guy sells a LOT of intakes!
Celeste, are you going to do the rear sway bar and strut brace too? I think you should you Subymamma!
I found out I can get the rear spoiler installed, painted, etc. for $459.00 at the place I bought the car in Tampa. I looove that spoiler!!
-juice
-juice
Stephen
-juice
Mostly I'm after the stiffer ride, but I really like the Sport's silver paint job...