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This is broken up as 24545+tax+title+ dealership fee. The dealer is in houston. going by some of the other postings i am being quoted 2000$ more,, than the average of 25500-26000 i saw in the various postings
please advise on how i go about trying to negotiate this price.
skesava,
if you look just a few posts before yours there's a post showing a quote for the same vehicle without auto. I don't know why you think you are paying 2k more than anyone else. Everyone else is listing there prices before tax and title. Your tax figure will differ depending on trade, location.
around 10% of MSRP on '03 Passats - one said it's because it's the beginning of the model year. Is this normal VW dealer behavior or something peculiar to this area?
I'm finding it difficult to determine Edmunds' TMV on Passats, because there seems to have been a change in the model lineup. Yesterday I test drove a '03 GL 1.8T, but the GL trim does not show in Edmunds' pages, nor on www.vw.com. Is the GL simply a GLS without sunroof?
As for the ten percent surcharge, that's insane. Is it on all models, or just the W8 and/or 4Motion? Sounds like basic greed to me.
But the salesman I talked to at Sunnyvale VW didn't act like he really expected to get that amount.
The new GL Passat is nothing more than an entry level Passat...Fully equipped with No Luxury Pkg. or Fogs...But everything else is there...
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I'm about to pull the trigger on a private party sell of a 1998 Passat GLS 4 cylinder 1.8 Liter turbo. Excellent mechanical conditon and superb body with 57,000 miles. I will be the third owner with previous owner buying VW certifed at 22,000 miles with first owner coming off lease. Owner wants $10,900 which seems fair but the car has an old tape deck, no CD, and needs a great deal of interior cleaning because of dog hair (interior fabric is black). Also a few little plastic things need fixing. Edmunds custom appraisal is at $11, 286. The car only needs a splash guard under engine. I'm concerned, however, that it is coming near the 60,000 mile check up and I could really get hurt there. Any thoughts on whether I should buy it at this price today?
chris('s wife gotsavw)
EPS, and the offering price is 27,700. I calculate this as approx. 700 over invoice.
Does anyone think I could negotiate for lower?
I will probably have to add title and "administration fee" of about $100.
This seems like too good a deal. Should I grab it or is something wrong here?
PLEASE respond asap. I may buy today.
thanks!
Proceed with caution...
A fair deal all around, I think.
Northwest Florida
Why is it that the value of a used 2002 GLX on edmunds is a little over 20k, while the cars.com 'black book' comes up 3-4k above that? Any opinions on what price is correct? Is edmunds taking into account the lousy used card market with all the 0% deals out there?
My other question is what a reasonable offer for a new 2002 gls with Lthr, lux, Mons, and homelink would be? I'm thinking around 23K (why offer invoice when I can get a 2003?)
I'm in Nebraska if it helps...
Joel
No money down - drive away and start making payments. I have a dealer quoting me a 48 month lease for $352 a month for a Passat Wagon GL automatic. It seems to be a pretty good deal. Any comments?
It's almost never a good idea to lease for more than 36/39 months. Any longer than that and you run the risk of overmileage and excess wear/tear. Granted, VW's basic warranty is 4/50, so the odds are better that you won't suffer a serious out-of-warranty repair. But you should seriously consider the financials of purchase vs 48-month lease if you really plan on keeping the vehicle that long. If you are leasing that long just for the lower payment, then you may need to consider a less expensive vehicle.
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Picked up a Reflex Silver GLS w/ Tip, Lux and Leather, + ESP, in the Toronto area.
Not so great on gas, but makes driving oh so enjoyable.
I bought my '00 VW GTI 1.8T brand new a couple of years ago from Flow Motors here in Winston-Salem, NC. Despite meticulous care and conscientious maintenance, the vehicle was nothing but trouble from the start.
Here's a brief rundown:
I had the car in the shop SIX times to have window problems fixed. (The passenger door glass was replaced twice due to deep scratches caused by the power window mechanism, and the easily broken "retainer clip" which connects the window glass to the door motor had to be replaced several times as well). Try driving 40 miles down the interstate back to the dealership with the driver's window stuck in the "down" position, and you you may appreciate my mood at the time. I had to use vacation time to take the car in for service immediately, as any precipitation would have ruined the interior, and my belongings inside the vehicle were unprotected from the elements, not to mention theft.
Virtually every exterior bulb -- headlamps, turn signals, and brake lamps -- burned out on this supposedly well-built "German" vehicle within two years of purchase. One headlamp burned out TWICE, despite having been replaced with a genuine VW bulb from the dealer.
The cheap plastic hinge on the glove compartment door broke twice. The whole door has to be replaced when this happens. (Hey VW, why not use a METAL hinge if you're going to spring-load the glove box for that pleasant "dampened" feel?)
The clutch went out after only 40,000 miles (a very costly repair). Bear in mind that I did not abuse this vehicle -- most of the miles were accumulated in fifth gear on the interstate.
The air conditioner started malfunctioning last summer, leaving me drenched in sweat more than once, but luckily started working again. Don't ask why. I hate to think what a new condenser would have cost.
The turbo blew an intake valve, causing a loud "fluttering" noise during acceleration. The "check engine" light came on as well. The turbo valve cost around $200 to replace, and the part was not covered by VW's touted 100,000 mile powertrain warranty (even though the VW salesman specifically told me that the turbo WAS fully covered by the extended warranty when I purchased the vehicle).
The six-disc, trunk-mounted CD player was problematic, constantly jamming and generating a bogus "disc error" message. (I had the same problem with numerous newly-purchased CDs, so it wasn't the software.) I had to pull over, pop the hatch, remove the cartridge and "spin" all the discs to listen to any of the CDs. A nuisance to say the least, particularly while commuting or driving in bad weather.
Disgusted with the constant breakdowns, I threw up my hands and traded in my GTI on an '03 Subaru WRX after the last repair epdisode, during which I was bluntly advised by VW maintenance personnel that my inoperative driver's side window could not be repaired because no replacement parts were available anywhere in the country. (No replacement parts nationally for a '00 model! GET REAL!) It took calls to the general manager and regional service director to finally get the parts by special order, and I drove a rental for a couple of days while they replaced the assembly.
Now, after absorbing a loss on my trade to avoid more unforseen repairs, I get a letter from VW stating that they're generously extending the manufacturer's warranty to cover certain window problems. (The dealer advised me that VW has known about the problem for years, but refused to issue a timely recall, and will now have to spend a cool $100 million to replace thousands of defective power window assemblies in ALL models.)
Please, learn from my mistake and CONSIDER ALL YOUR OPTIONS CAREFULLY BEFORE CHOOSING ANY VOLKSWAGEN PRODUCT. There are just too many other choices, folks, to be stuck with a sub-standard product that makes for a great test drive but provides poor reliability and dealer service down the road. If you find yourself sipping cold coffee and sitting for hours in the waiting area of your local VW repair shop while the same old defective part in your "German-engineered" vehicle is replaced yet again, you have only yourself to blame. This is a true story, and I have the service records to prove it. (I'm not alone: a friend of mine had a '00 New Beetle that needed a full brake job after only 15,000 miles and started belching black smoke soon thereafter -- another hurried trade-in.)
Look, I'm not a mechanic or race fanatic who spends a lot of time arguing about which brand is better than another. I'm just an ordinary consumer who expects a $21,000 brand new vehicle to have things like a reliable engine, working windows, a functional CD player and a useable glove box.
Don't let VW do the same thing to you -- do yourself (and your wallet) a favor and stay away from this "German-engineered" (and Argentinian built) brand until they make quality control and customer service a priority.
As I finalized the deal, I did get the feeling that I could do a little better. However, considering I spent under half an hour to get to that price, I didn't think it's worth the trouble to spend another two hours to try to knock another couple of hundred dollars off.
I run into this all the time on these boards - My GTI has been perfect - no regrets whatsoever.
One lesson I learned is that if one dealership is willing to sell the car to you @ a certain price, other dealers would do too. The important thing is to find a price that you judge is workable, then stick to it as much as possible. Tell them upfront you have talked to other dealerships, and you have no interest in spending more than half an hour haggling.
Additionally, this quote was from an internet manager. Can you still negotiage an internet quoted price? I've seen people here who apparently get cars at invoice. Is that common/reasonable?
Alright, I know its alot of questions, but whatever info you can provide would be very helpful!