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  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... W. Washington State .. wow, now that's a Real Left coaster .. your probably still sleeping, it's 2am left coast time (or, just leaving a bar, l.o.l.) ..

               It's the right color, SE, right stuff, auto, miles are a little on the strong side, needs a little rubber .. on a trade, you should be seeing "around" the high $10's ..

                Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Ok, here's the good news ____________

         And here's the bad news .. it's got lot's of miles, it's a 4 banger, it has an elbow breaker and a handshaker, no breeze, aaahh, what can I say .. sounds like a $1,500 vehicle (maybe) on a trade ..

                  Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... All in all, $19,9 isn't a bad asking price, it's a 02, right color in and out, it has 5,0 klicks, so it's way short in miles .. I'm gonna say they have the mid to high $17's in it .. they gotta make a profit and spring isn't That far away for Philly, so I'm thinkin' the ultra high 18's, low $19's should take it home ...

                But let me know ...

                     Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... If you are noticing the difference, I gotta think the UC guy is going to eyeball it also .. what that means is, they "could" hit this puppy as far back as the $8's or even less ..

             I think you need to get the vehicle cleaned, just a real good car wash, then go back to the Bondo Babes and start nit picking it and get it right ... I would really have to see this pup.

                Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... The miles are ultra low for the year .. a non-Quattro in the north doesn't get people all lined (in FL, it would be the opposite) ..

                So let's say it has a Great history all the way around, let's say it's a nice vehicle all through the inside and out .. let's say it has the sport package, let's say I'm hungry and I would like to get some breakfast .. they might have $4,5ish in it .. $5,9ish is more of a fair price for both ...

                 Terry ;-)
  • nonjth13nonjth13 Member Posts: 91
    thanks
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    Now you've got me thinking...
    "Well, the 740 IS a bit underpowered, and it needs a headliner and a new dash...etc..."
    :-)
    Umm, the place should work with either Netscrape or IE...I dunno. Try it with both and see if you get the same result.
  • klatulipklatulip Member Posts: 6
    I am thinking about trading in my Wolfsburg, and I would appreciate any help you could give regarding real world trade-in vaulue.

    The car is 2001 Wolfsburg
    Black w/Tan Interior
    Moonroof
    Monsoon
    CD Changer
    12,900 miles
    in such good shape that my wife gives me a hard time about how it doesn't look like I ever drive my car

    Thanks.

    Kevin
  • jbolltjbollt Member Posts: 736
    Terry...Trying to help a freind's wife ..here are the details as she emailed them to me...I have seen the truck from the outside only... When I asked her what equip it had, she seemed pretty clueless, so I asked if she had the original window sticker..the following is from that...

    The vehicle is in Tucson AZ...Thanks for your trade in values...as they are not interested in selling it themselves. Please let me know if you need more info.

    1999 2WD 4-door Tahoe
    1SB equipment group
    1SZ preferred equipment group discount
       Tire weight max, LS decor
    E55 Tailgate body
    C5Q 6300 GVWR
    FE9 Federal emissions requirements, no emissions overide, Vortec 700 V8 SFI
           4 speed auto w overdrive
    GU6 3.42 rear axle ratio
    G80 locking differential
    Aluminum wheels
    QFL P235/75R-15 all seasons blackwall tires
    A95 Reclining high back bucket seats
    C69 Front and rear air conditioning
    UP0 AM/FM stereo ETR w S and S CD/Cassette
    Remote keyless entry
    Power drivers seat
    B39 Front and rear carpeted floor mats
    Black electric remote OSRV mirrors
    VK3 front license plate bracket
    ZY1 Solid paint
    6oU Sunset gold (metalic)
    52D nuetral custom cloth

    Mileage 42,000
    body is in pretty good conditions. A few door dings. One moderate door ding which is a small shallow crease 5 or inches long. There is a small dent, probably from a shopping cart near the bottom. Otherwise in pretty good condition.
  • dlubindlubin Member Posts: 66
    Due to a job change, I'm a 30k a year driver (all commuting, all highway), and my BMW 5-series lease is almost up (I'm breaking even on the mileage, good news since I had one of the last of the 3yr 67% residual leases).

    Question is - if I tend to trade out every two to three years, am I better off leasing and buying the mileage (excess depreciation) at $.15/per (or $2500 a year), or buying the darn thing and trying to sell it in 3yrs with 90,000 miles?

    The big unknown being the lease end value of the car - with the lease I clap my hands and walk away, where on the purchase I'm stuck trying to trade/sell the thing.

    The next car will be another bimmer with a stick - either a 5 series (530/540) or a 330xi.

    Thanks!

    Dan
  • klatulipklatulip Member Posts: 6
    Sorry, but I forgot to provide my car's location. I am in Owings Mills, Maryland.

    Thanks again.

    Kevin
  • anu0anu0 Member Posts: 13
    A friend is selling his 1998 Volvo S70 T5. It's fully loaded, including the sports suspension and is automatic. It has less than 10, 000 miles; that's right, no misprint, 10,000 not 100,000.
    Edmunds says the TMV for a private party sale is $16, 800.

    Kelly Blue Book says the car is only worth $15,500 for a private party sale even at this ultra low mileage.

    How much would be a fair price for this car in a private party sale?
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... 9:45 tee time ..

               Terry.
  • mpp2mpp2 Member Posts: 97
    Original asking price was $9995. That and no Quattro, it's no wonder the Audi hasn't sold yet. I spotted it a few months ago, and then saw it a few days ago in an ad with their new price of $6995. Sometimes cars don't sell for whatever reason, but it doesn't help when you put an incredibly high ask price to begin with.
  • lanzzlanzz Member Posts: 76
    Guys - thanks in advance, need private party and trade in numbers for the following...

    2001 BMW 325Ci, 27k, auto, premium pkg, sport pkg, cold weather pkg, xenons, HK sound, original tires with about 50% tread left. Color is charcoal with black interior.

    Located in Westchester, NY.

    Thanks again...
  • spatulamanspatulaman Member Posts: 157
    Hey guys...its me again...still hunting for a convertible. After driving a TT Roadster, and finding out that the insurance on an SLK is cheaper than a TTR, I'm leaning towards an SLK....according to Edmunds, all the ones I've found online are waaay overpriced. Here's what I'm looking for...
    2001 SLK 320
    Handshaker
    Xenons & [non-permissible content removed] Toasters
    Black/Black
    25k miles or less, might stretch up to 30k
    I'm willing to travel anywhere in the country

    What's the going rate?
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    That 'Wolfsburg' would be a Jetta? Two-door or four-door Golf? Which engine? Which transmission? The tan interior is cloth or leather?
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
       welcome
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... Great description.!! -- "Trying to help a friend's wife", yeah yeah, I have heard that one before ..

              It's the right color, dual air, right rear end, miles are right, except for a little this and a that probably a pretty nice vehicle, it would be much better if it was a 4x4 ..

              Trade side, you should be seeing the ultra high $11's, low $12's ..

                   Good luck ...

                      Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... Hey Dan ~ Great question .. I'm not much for the lease deals, I have seen too many folks get lost and lose Big time .. but, you do seem to know what you are doing here.

             You know and understand your "future" and the miles that go with - and smart enough to pay upfront for it ..

             I know $7,500 seems like a lot of money (and it is.!) .. but most folks would be lookin' to spend a lot more if they bought a new vehicle and piled up 90k in 3 years .. probably the best example would be is: If you had bought a New 2000 528i in 00 and logged in 90k, the vehicle "might" be worth in and around the $13ish range (with it being super clean and needing -0-) on a trade - if you went to sell it, you "might" see $15/$16,0 .. so that's a $13/$14 grand hit on the retail side .. a nice clean 00 528i with 20/30k might see $28/$29 ..

           I hope this helps ...

                 Terry.
  • jbolltjbollt Member Posts: 736
    REALLY! I wouldn't drive such a large vehicle. Thanks for the info, I will get this feedback to them tonight.
  • klatulipklatulip Member Posts: 6
    Sorry for the VW shorthand. I have tried to answer your questions below. Please let me know if you are looking for any additional information.

    I appreciate the help.

    Kevin

    _________________

    2001 Wolfsburg is "limited" edition of the VW Jetta:

    Standard Features:

    1.8 Turbo--only engine choice in Wolfsburg
    5 spd.--don't know if there was an auto offered?
    Sports Suspension
    16" BBS Alloy Wheels
    Leather-wrapped 3-spoke wheel
    Leather-wrapped shift knob
    Sport seats
    Plus-all standard equipment from Jetta GLS 1.8T

    Available options on Wolfsburg:

    Moonroof (my car has)
    Monsoon Sound System (my car has)
    Winter Package--heated washer nozzles & front seats (my car does not have)

    No leather available in Wolfsburg--cloth "sport seats"

    I also have a CD Changer.

    Thanks.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Hmmm, the miles are super, ultra low, this is a rare bird .. but along with the super low miles, does it stand tall .?

             Sometimes if a vehicle has low low miles and it's older, folks get a little jittery .. but if it looks and drives - 02 ~ it glows in the dark, no scratches, no paintwork, no special items in the interior, tires aren't getting ready to cave-in, then on the retail side I would start it at $16,5 and take $15,5/$16,0 .. the one thing about a vehicle like this, don't get to greedy, this will probably be a cash buyer or someone with a home equity loan, most lenders "might" shy away with it cuz' of the year or shorten up the term, which could make the vehicle a little pricey ..

         
               But let me know on this one, you have my interest ..

                  Terry :-)
  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,825
    Dan,
    if you can buy miles for 15cents a pop on a flippin' 5-series... DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!
    I dislike leasing; I always figure it's bad enough to have to ask the bank if you can buy a car; with a lease you have to ask if you can sell it, too....
    But in your case, it sounds like a winner.
    Want cheaper, and still a Bimmer? Buy whatever you like new and put 300,000 miles on it... do the maintenance and the car will do it, they're built to be driven.
    (Then sell it to me, cheap!)

    Viel Glueck!
    -Mathias
    East Lansing, MI
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Your timing is perfect .l.o.l.. (kinda) I just bought one about 2 wks ago .. black, 21k and all the stuff, I think I paid like $29,5, plus the fee's and transport and it should be sitting in a store in Richmond ..

                   Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
  • prodigalsunprodigalsun Member Posts: 213
    Can either mean Good Luck, or a popular bavarian dish, consisting of braised calf livers in a lard based sauce.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ....... Yummy, that made me hungry .. I wonder if Denny's has that ..?

                     Terry :-)
  • prodigalsunprodigalsun Member Posts: 213
    They do, it's called their Deutschland Artery-bustin' skillet.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    I think it ought to be worth about $24-25K on trade assumign it's just super nice.

    If you go to sell it, I would ask $28,500/bo and grab in the $27s...

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Is worth low-mid $12s as a trade methinks..

    Bill
  • gdevinneygdevinney Member Posts: 20
    Reply to: #11288 George by brentwoodvolvo

    Bill (& terry),

    The 4 dr prices are close enough.

    You guys were close to what they offered. My new BMW deal looks dead .... unless he lowballed and comes back a LOT higher! So far apart I didn't even counter offer. He says same as you guys: "soft market". Doesn't soft market mean he has to try harder? This way he gets nada, I get nadan.... and maybe he loses a lifetime client.

    Crazy thing is: they offered $16.5K (real cash $$) about 8 months ago. (sorry I passed) Figured a 6 yr old car doesn't depriciate THAT much, so I could still get near that. Is the market THAT crazy???

    Also: there's a LIT of BMW on the streets here -- that can mean a flooded market, but the other side of that is big demand? Maybe I'll stick a sign on it in the driveway and see what happens. Guy next door did that with a '77 Benz and got 20K within two weeks.

    Damned discuraging. Sorry now I bought the '97 ... If I take that little in trade, it's cost me as much to own as new would have .... I bought used for better value expecting to see a good trade by now .... depriciation as bad as a NEW car .... that REALLY SUCKS!

    Maybe a used E46 is in the cards if that market is equally soft, but I'll be happy enough to stay with what I have to get my money's worth (or for a market change).

    I could go at retail, but you guys know what a PITA dealing with car buyers (like me) can be. <G>

    I was back to being a BMW owner forever .... not so sure now. Will check out Accura, Infiniti & maybe MB to see what they'll offer. If it's near invoice and a great trade ... who knows what I'll do. I like BMW's best, but if overall value stinks, I'll switch.

    The Bronzit 635 -- yea @ $2.5 Trade now, but an exceptional car that did and can still bring more given an interested buyer. People notice it, ask and are amazed when I say it's an '87. I gave you WAY MORE THAN I SHOULD HAVE for it <G> .... but not sorry about THAT deal .... don't think I ever will be.

    Got the email about the 2000 323/328 prices. Not too encouraging. Will reply soon to explain.

    As always .... George
  • gdevinneygdevinney Member Posts: 20
    Re: Post 11305 of 11323 by lanzz

    Lanzz: you selling or buying? If selling drop me an email. Address shoud be in my profile. I've been looking to trade my '97 328 up to new(er), maybe we can talk.

    On the other hand .. I have to consider .....

    Bill's advice is usually good, but I'm wondering .... he said $27 retail ... I can buy a new *2004* for only $10K more and make up some w/ good BMW financing over a private deal .. so I dunno ..

    Any thoughts, Bill?
    This doesn't sound like a soft market quote to me <G>. Or am I being unreasonable?

    George
  • lanzzlanzz Member Posts: 76
    Re: 11324

    George,

    A woman in my office is selling, I will give her your email.

    Ed
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    I dunno why E36s have gone soft myself.. I mean, they have fallen hard lately it seems. I dont buy a lot of them, but they sure are getting cheaper.

    Maybe it's with all of the E46s all over the used market now? A lot of stuff has gotten cheap.. Jag XJ8s, XJ6s, MB S-Classes..etc..

    Stuff that would do $14K at the sale a year ago now does $9K.. and we're not talking late model stuff!

    Oh yeah, that 635.. I havent seen one as nice since! Take care of it! And that damn AC unit better be Ice freaking cold!! <G>
    As far as the car Lanzz co-worker has.. that's $10K you're ahead fo the game upfront.... I'd personally rather pay up another $1500-2K and get a real low-miler meself.

    Bill
  • spatulamanspatulaman Member Posts: 157
    What store in Richmond?!? I think I need to give them a ringy-ding. eMail me at rx7man@hotmail.com put something catchy in the subject line, otherwise it will get lost since that's my "spam" address.
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    Hey guys...got a question about the infamous '94 Accord.
    Again, the facts:
    '94 Accord LX coupe, black over tan cloth (interior's about perfect)
    5-speed
    new(ish) tires
    all maintenance
    126,000 miles.
    The bad: it's beginning to get a little rear fender "Honda rust", and the rear bumper cover has a hole in the corner from a little parking lot encounter on the part of Mrs. Lance. I don't want to trade it in; I'd rather sell it privately, either to a co-worker (he's expressed interest in it, for his teenage kids; he doesn't want them learning to drive in the snow in a RWD car) or to a student at the university where Mrs. Lance works. So: the question- is it worth fixing the bumper (quoted $425) and/or the rust prior to sale, or not?
  • crikeycrikey Member Posts: 1,041
    Hello, I'm planning to trade-in this SUV, what can I get for it?

    2001 Nissan Pathfinder LE 4X2
    Color: Burnt Cherry (Burgundy)
    Leather Seats
    Dual Power Seats
    Dual Air Bags
    Dual front side airbags
    Automatic Temperature Control
    Garage-kept, non-smoker, no pets
    No noticeable dings and scratches
    Exceptionally maintained and serviced according to schedule
    21,331 miles and is shinier than when I bought it

    If I were to privately sell this, how much would be a good asking price and what offer should I take? Feedback would be most appreciated. Thanks.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Fix it ..? - heck no, I would just divorce Mrs. Lance .. Kidding.!

             It's a 94, it has 124,000 big klicks and it should have a kiss here and a kiss there .. if you had the right connections, you could have the work done for $150/$200, but even so, just have it detailed if it makes a difference. This way they know exactly what they are buying, and there is no hard feelings anywhere, anytime ..

                Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Wonderful description.! (I love this guy) .. but where do you keep it parked.?

                Terry.
  • zueslewiszueslewis Member Posts: 2,353
    please drop me a mail when you have a minute - got a question for you - car biz stuff..
  • tlaplantetlaplante Member Posts: 19
    Terry
     You're still here. Man you're alright I don't care what everyone else says about you. And Bill is back too. Can you price this one for me. No mine does not need company. This is for a friend.
    2000 Coupe
    10k miles
    Auto
    Black interior (I know hot for Florida)
    HUD, sport seats, Cd all the goodies
    Transferable warrenty
    Looks And smells like new.

    Thanks Tom
  • gdevinneygdevinney Member Posts: 20
    Yea, but prices going soft so fast is what's frustrating. I lost $6K (>33%) not taking the deal 8 mos ago! It's like the freaking stock market! If I get an E46 anywhoo ... will that crash in 3-4 years and leave me screwed? I could buy Hyundai and do better ... or could lease, but don't like the rigidity.

    Besides ... this market *should* mean I can get super good used e46 prices from this dealer (or you) .... Right?

    Or .. will trade prices IMPROVE in 6 months (if we get past the Iraq mess)? May be rare, but not much to lose, and I can wait.

    Besides: He's offered @$4K LESS than the "guaranteed" trade from CarsDirect.com w/ about same sale price. I'd just rather not use them.

    THink A/C's OK in the 636 but too damn cold since Sept to tell.

    PS: Drove an Infiniti G35 today. IMPRESSIVE car, (it might change my mind ... I'd expect their resale to be weak anyway). Bad think is they say "STICKER PRICE: end of story"!
  • gdevinneygdevinney Member Posts: 20
    Please do, Thanks.

    You're a bit of a trip, but I've gone further to buy cars .... just ask Bill. <G>.
  • butchbr73butchbr73 Member Posts: 325
    VERY strong resale at this point... I was inquiring a few weeks ago, '03 G35's w/ 15k miles were doing ONLY $1-2k back of the new ones. absolutely crazy. You'd be better off there, in my humble opinion, to buy new.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... Hey Tom, how are you .?

             Sounds like a pretty nice one, no miles, auto, all the nice toys .. on a trade, in and around the $29's (seats might hold it back) .. down Retail Rd, $34,9 and $33,5/$$34,5 should see a new owner ...

               I hope all is well ...

                 Terry.
  • crikeycrikey Member Posts: 1,041
    ..... Wonderful description.! (I love this guy) .. but where do you keep it parked.?
                Terry.

    I'm not really sure what you mean by this but, most of the times, it is parked inside our 2-car garage (I lived in a fully-detached bungalow). It is only used to drive my kids around town, which is mainly on the weekends. Thanks.
  • butchbr73butchbr73 Member Posts: 325
    What Terry means is.....

    Where do you live? Regional factors play a large role in what a car is worth....
  • crikeycrikey Member Posts: 1,041
    What Terry means is.....

    Where do you live? Regional factors play a large role in what a car is worth....


    I guess the Canuck flag threw a curve ball :)
    I currently reside in the Sunshine State of Florida, City of Orlando. Thanks, butchbr73.
  • dhamanndhamann Member Posts: 2
    Bill/Terry (or anyone else that would like to opine),

    Been following this discussion for a long time &#150; thanks a million for all your good advice. Now I am faced with a bit of a quandary. With 2 kids and all the activities, we need to have at least one vehicle that seats 6-8. Where we live, we need 4wd or AWD &#150; and our two Subies are perfect. Unfortunately, no 7 passenger Subie yet.

    I am considering the 2004 AWD Toyota Sienna, but the $$$ are high. Was hesitant to consider 2000-2002 Chrysler T&C AWD, because of the perceived lack of reliability. But given the $$$ for new, and the soft used car market, and your advice in the past that a 2 year old used vehicle is the best value - should I re-consider?

    Are there any &#147;good/reliable&#148; AWD minivans out there (1-2 year old), and what are they going for?

    Is there anything else I should consider? My wife does not want something huge like the Ford Expedition/Lincoln Navigator, and I did not like the Suzuki XL-7 when I had one as a rental.

    By the way this would be a straight purchase with no trade.

    Dave
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