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Interesting method to calculate value - Makes sense. Max 25.6k
bowke28
About 25k, but offer 24k.
rroyce10
yes SD is South Dakota (the land of variety in autos - as long as it is a pickup or SUV). 23.5k to 24k.
Thanks to all of you for responding quickly. That is about what I was considering, but they are asking 28k (the cost of a new one) and have come down to 27k without me saying a word. I think I will offer 23.5 to 24 and see what they say (I can go up a little from there if necessary). If they are not interested then I can always get a new one after all the price will only go down when the new Odyssey comes out.
As for payment, nah, won't be much if any higher, interest rate will go down. Dropped 3 pts on by trading to the Titan, should drop about 5-6 pts by trading the Dodge (we are at 14%).
See, the Dodge was a stepping stone, we never intended to keep it. Its a good truck in its own way, but we knew we would get rid of it by the time the ESC was up. While I would have like that to have been a bit more time, its not. We've had the truck nearly a year, its improved our credit enough to where we can buy what we want. It truely owes us nothing, its hauled enough firewood to pay its depreciation.
Anyway, whatever.
My god, she's copping an attitude.
Terry.
Dang it all, the thing will be PAID FOR by spring, that means I can get the Titan paid off shortly there after (nothing like paying $2k/mo on a truck and watching the balance drop).
Problem is when we need to do something with the truck (haul firewood or whatever) we have to take 2 trucks since its a reg cab and me, hubby, and 2 kids don't fit. That's a PITA and costs twice as much.
Oh heck, I don't know. *resuming banging my head on the wall*
Looking at the following, interested in your thoughts:
2000 BMW Z3/2.3/5 speed
28k miles
Bronze/tan top/tan leather
South Florida, 2 owners, one minor accident
Premium package - in-dash CD/power covertible top
75% remain on Conti sport tires
Looks good in and out, if price in range, will
check out with indy mechanic
NOT CPO - dealer no longer CPO's cars over 3 model years old.
see posts #19692 & #19707 for the details...
Turns out their Sport Trac had a damaged Tonneau (underside cracked) that they weren't going to replace (cost). Otherwise, it was in very good condition, rode solid. Detailed my Ody to the max (hobby I'm actually quite good at) before arrival, it looked cleaner then THEIR vehicle. Anyway, when asked for Ody history I told them about the skin work. I even gave them a choice of wheels. They checked it out and they said only thing they could see was passenger slider had been painted. Everything else looked great.
Started discussion with my Ody as a trade. They stated it would go to auction since they don't deal anything without a squeaky clean carfax. They proceeded to quote auction numbers for a bunch of Ody's with similar mileage (40-50K) at about $12-$13K. I asked for source, they said Manhiem. I told them I expected around $15K (lower end of your guess-timate) and they said over priced. Did things change that much in a month???
I'm thinking this deal is DOA. But, I decided to stab at the Sport Trac anyway to see what they might do at that end. I didn't mention that I saw the owner drop the price (sticker was still $20.5K) a month ago to $18.5K on their weekly TV car show. I offered 18K, they came back with best they could do is $19.4K, from the owner no less. <bugler starts playing taps> I didn't even bother to dope slap him with his quoted TV offer. A smile and a thank you for your time and I'm out the door. Oh well. Best thing is that I could walk without so much as a twitch of remorse armed with the info you gave me.
Thanks as always.
You need a truck that handle being beat on--not "beat on" on purpose, but can handle doing all sorts of rough and tumble stuff in a truly inhospitable environment. In addition to that, it needs to be big enough to haul 4 people, dogs, equipment, etc.
It also sounds like it needs to be strong enough to tow just about any monstrosity you throw back there. (Firewood trailers and all that). I think that boils it down to: a 3500, CC, diesel.
Ok, so...Whew! I'm a Dodge guy, myself. I've never really driven any of the Big 3's diesels--never had a reason to. That said, I think they're all more or less reliable. If this is going to be the hubby's truck and HE wants the Duramax, I say go for it. The fact that your dealer is willing to secure the vehicle via auction is even better. Slap a good ESC on that and go nuts.
I, personally, would NOT, under any circumstances, keep the Dodge (as much as I am a Dodge guy) after the ESC expires. Not because I think it's junk, but because of the way it's used and where it's used, something's bound to just say "screw it, I can't take it anymore" and give up. ;-)
Lastly, you're on the right track on this idea across the board, anyway. 1) You get a more fuel efficient vehicle--$200 is $200.
2) You've improved your credit to the point of getting a lower rate. Sure, the Dodge may be paid off and have a payment of $0, but it also has no reassurance it won't cost that much to maintain. At least by taking on another payment, it won't be so financially painful. 3) You regain the peace of mind of having a likely more reliable vehicle and one you won't have to grumble about. That's worth something, in my book.
Now, maybe with a couple pretty pleases and 3 "I promise to SAFTCLs (Stay away from the car lots) for 1 year", Terry could tell you what a low mileage, 1 year old 3500/Crew Cab/diesel will go for at auction. Maybe. I think he just doesn't want to be an enabler. j/k ;-0
I'm looking for what I might expect for a trade in on my 1999 vw eurovan. It is dark red, 57k miles, heated front seats, clean condition, CD player - and it's GLS VR6 **
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The color is good, the miles are low, we have the bun warmers and you say it's clean ~ clean meaning: it has all the service from yesterday, deep sneakers, no soccer team interior, no repaints and it looks and drives like an 02 ... trade side, in and around the low to mid $9's .. depending on where you live these do pretty well down Retail Rd, so it's your choice ........................ ;-)
Terry.
BEFORE I take the car to a dealer for a trade-in value estimate, how much effort should I make to correct these items?
I plan to replace the trim piece, (hopefully) buff the scratches out, and (self) repair the power window. Should I pay to have the dings (from shopping carts, car doors) repaired? What if I have to pay to fix the power window?
In general, how much does a dealer de-value the trade based on these types of problems? Or will my money & effort be well spent?
Finally, does having a car professionally detailed make any difference in getting better trade-in value. To a private party, impressions might mean a lot; but to a dealer, I'm guessing they don't care. What do you think?
The Dodge is a fairly good truck, I can't really dog it, but its got a light rearend and the V10 isn't too happy about what's being asked of it........not to mention the tranmission is saying it gives up.
Ok, time to call the Nissan GSM to see if he found a truck yet and how much THAT is gonna cost. May just end up ordering a new one if the price is to outta line.
If its sooooo important to have no downtime, then why don't you keep the Dodge as a backup, and get something else as a primary. The repair costs on the Dodge should decline dramatically since it won't be used as much, and you'd always have something to drive....unless of course the cost of your downtime doesn't justify that much expense.
I'll step in here - these folks aren't millionaires, but they work hard and make pretty good money - not good enough, I wouldn't think, to keep a truck with a very large loan payment as a "backup".....
Heck, if money's no object, they could buy a new Crew Cab Dually for each day of the week....heck, one for each day of the month...
We ain't millionaires, but we do ok and we work hard for what we have.
We generally haul about 100 cords of firewood per year, that's all cut by hand, split with a small hydralic spitter, and stacked by hand. We also load and deliver it when an order comes in. That's our play money, its hard earned money, but we enjoy the benefits.
BTW...
did any of the expanded logging by the president affect you guys?
Ok. According to Edmunds, a 3500 CC/Duramax MSRP at $44530 (Chevy's site is slightly less and part of the problem is Edmunds charges for the locking rear diff, whereas Chevy's site does not, because it's supposed to be included in the package that, among other things, gets you the Duramax and Allison transmission). TMV, adjusted for a Anchorage zip code (or is Fairbanks closer? I forget), is $41084 and it appears right now, there is a $4000 rebate. So net TMV is 37084. I built it as an LS, with bench front seat and very few additionals beyond what's included in LS. It does include trailering/5th wheel hook ups, winter covers, engine heater, etc.
So personally, I wouldn't pay more than low 30's for an identical auction purchased truck. And that would be ALL the money. Then again, it's AK, so I really don't know if that's right or not.
tornado25.......he hasn't called back yet, I faxed him what we wanted, but he had to get ahold of his buyer. It would have to be a sweet deal before we would do it.
2003 VW Passat GLX 4Motion
Stonehenge Gray Metallic
25000 miles
Automatic
2.8 V6
Climate Control
Leather
Original Tires
The car is in Minnesota
Good inside and outside, no dings or dents
1997 Accord SE
Heather Mist over Ivory cloth
87000 miles
auto
moonroof
single CD
cruise control
power windows/locks
aluminum wheels (not in the best condition)
20000 miles on tires
Some exterior blemishes, but clean overall.
Edmunds says $6254-$7527, whereas KBB says $4705-$6195. Quite a difference!
P.S. I'm in Minnesota too, so buy this one and not godflesh12's Passat if you're looking... ;-)
As a long time reader, and first time poster, I would appreciate any light you could shed
The VIN #: 5UXFA53533LV80230
Thanks in advance!
715
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Hey 715, been trying to get to ya, but we have Jolie having another "Aka attack" and she has the board all clogged up with "I gotta have new truck" every other day ... whatta ya going to do, kids and puppies they're the worst .l.o.l....
Summary: located 0 records for this vehicle in the National Vehicle Database.
1 of 2 things .. it's either the wrong Vin#, or, it's an untitled MSO vehicle - MSO, if thats the case than you will be working off invoice, which is it .?
Terry.
I bought a 2002 Nissan Sentra GXE on 6/30. OTD was 10K on a 15K miler with handshaker and silver paint. I may have left some money on the table, but still feel I got a good deal on a great car.
Thanks to all you guys for advice and the humor displayed on this board.
Turboshadow
PS I entered the Shadow in the local TV version of Pimp my Ride. HAHAHAHAHA
It wasn't all that ridiculous if you read want she wrote. I believe she mentioned previously (farther back than just the post above yours) that the Dodge was going to be paid off soon, which is what I think spatulaman was picking up on. Although I'm not so sure it's the best thing in the world, the suggestion of keeping the Dodge wasn't entirely without merit and it certainly wasn't a suggestion to have 3 payments long-term.
I think the only thing hurting this idea is there would be no downpayment on the new, more reliable vehicle.
2001 or 2002 SAAB 9-3 SE (depending on what I find)
5 Dr
A/Y
Climate Control
Slider
Leather
Power everything
34000 miles
hazelnut (kind of a metallic beige)
DC area
From a dealer....
Possibly Certified (1.2 K extra for certification)
Thanks
Let me know how it goes.
The Sandman :-)
Jolie, i'm sorry but you justify your automobile spending habits better than anyone i know. If i do a search on your posts, I can guarantee you I will come up with numerous posts with the last 2 WEEKS that said are not trading any trucks for YEARS.... YEARS... YEARS....both trucks are perfect, will last forever, etc... you add some color here, but you don't have to justify any car purchase to us, you buy cars b/c you like to buy cars every 6 months, period. I wish you the best of luck with whatever your strategy is with car.... trading cars when flipped $5/6k???? nothing holds you back!
looks like i was wrong in the pool, much earlier than I expected. I'll step up to the plate right now and say the Titan is gone before the winter is up, no later than Feb/Mar of next year.... who's in?
I won't say if we do or don't buy the new truck, its still in discussion. I'll just leave you all guessing about what we are driving. Might be a Focus by next week.
My mechanic's name is actually Hass, not Dieter. He drives a big old SE 500 or some other ugly but impressive bad boy Benz with a boat horn attached to the hood of his car. He works on Benz's and Jag's and anything else British or European that is difficult. I trust him more than my partner (at least, one of them). More importantly, Warranty Direct will be my new friend so I'm not concerned about the electric do-dads that will break. However, thanks for the heads up. Terry, if you're out there I'm still interested in what you think about the resale values of the two vehicles..
Rick
If I could negotiate with her to reduce some of her other expenditures if I got the S430, I might be able to easily clear an additional $300-$400/mo. This is, as they say, a potential money-making deal.
Thanks for providing another way to look at the "situation"..
Rick
I agree with you. If your wife is like mine, she'd never agree to reduce her Starbucks, bottled water, nails, facials, expensive everything else to get a better car. She'd want ALL OF IT! And we thought Jaguars were high maintenance?
Good luck.
In the land of the Hurricanes we have a 00 Z3 with the 2.3, handshaker and 28,000 short miles, 1 minor kiss(?), color is good, we have some tunes with the prem pack and most of the round things are still there .... depending on the accident (if it's just a $200 nip and tuck and a $300 repaint) - then the dealer probably paid the high $15's low $16's, did some service, a little detail and a this and he might have the the tall $16's in it .. 2.3's aren't the most wanted, so the tall $19's would just about do it, it will all depend on the "small" accident ..... whats he asking.?
Terry.
If you have a factory *warranty* on the "S" and you like it and it keeps peace in the homeland, then thats the way to go for the extra $100 bucks a month .. keep in mind, I said warranty, because the they ain't cheap to fix, if the the wiper motor linkage decides to cough up a lung, it can cost $900+ and thats not counting the motor and the labor from Field Marshal Rommel, so there's $1,200 just so you can see out the windshield if it rains .l.o.l... so if your covered up to 100k, then all is well .... the guy that gets Clocked most, is always the guy that thinks he can get one fixed for $28 at "Uncle Burt's Bait Tackle Antique's and Foreign car Emporium" ...
I can't say what the resale values will be in 2/3 years and I don't like to guess, but your figures could be right, the most important thing is: "Always buy and drive what *YOU* like" - not your neighbor, not the guy at the marina or the 7-11 and certainly not the guy that has the office 2 doors down ~ their opinion only counts when they're making the payments ..........................
Terry.
You didn't get hurt .. nice little vehicles, should see 140/150k properly serviced .....
Terry.
Terry.
Just Like New!
Armored 2002 CHEVROLET SILVERADO 4 Wheel Drive
Level 5 (CEN B6) High Power Rifle Protection
2002 Chevy Silverado - only 24,860 miles
Armored to Level V (equivalent CEN B6)– 7.62x51 V-50 2,640 fps., .30 Cal M2 – V-50 2,000 fps etc. by O’Gara – Hess & Eisenhardt – Transparent armor: All curved glass/polycarbonate/glass 40 mm, both windows are operable, opaque armor consists of composite and ballistic steel protection in all cabin, doors, posts, sides, firewall, back of cab and roof. Fragmentation blanket in floor against grenades. Additional accessories include gel battery, additional electric door locks and 4 run flat tires. 6.0 litre V-8 280 HP, 4 speed automatic with overdrive, AM/FM Stereo with CD, air conditioner, 4 wheel drive. LIKE NEW condition. Located in Mexico.
PRICED AT US$ 56,900.00 FIRM
Subject to prior sale. No warranty expressed on implied and is sold as is, where is. Your inspection is welcome. Any applicable sales taxes, taxes or registration fees shall be borne by the purchaser. No freight charges included.
WORLDWIDE ARMOR SERVICES
San Angelo, Texas - Phone/Fax: 325-655-0911 E-mail:sales@worldwidearmor.com
Terry
Asking $22, no Swiss watches in the trunk.
What year/model is the Ody.? (01.?) .. it's hard to say what they thought .. depending on the dealer, they will "assume" it's a loser, in their minds they think they don't have a retail piece and it has to go off to the auction, that entails transport, auction fee, detail, rep time, time and money, rep time, so they hit it low "depending on the year" .....
Terry.
Terry.
Terry.