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Someone once wrote here: there is 3 prices when you go to sell any vehicle ..
There is an *Asking* price.
There is an "Liking* price
And there is a "Taking" price
Campers and the like have to be bought waaay back of book, if they're *asking* $17,0 then they probably own them for "around" the $11/$12's .. your summer lasts, what.? just north of August.? - cars and trucks will sell in the worst of weather, maybe not it Vast numbers, but they will sell ..
Believe me, the camper/rv dealers have a small window of opportunity, maybe 2/3 months, it's the same in Wisc, Michigan, Pa, Ohio, Kentucky, the Carolina's and they're not going to be holding their breath for big money for 9 months, the same goes for boat dealers, boats are owned for 35/40% *Back* of book, no matter what the books say ... if you want to know what a dealer might pay, "duplicate" the New camper your looking at, then call the dealers 80/150/250 miles away and say: "hey, I have this "03" XYZ, it's got blah blah and of course blah, we used it for the last 15 months and my dog died, we need to move it because we just bought a smaller house - What will you give me for it.?" ......... slow down girl.! Your speeding.! .l.o.l...
Terry.
Hubby is back to loving his truck again......only cost $245 too. The catalytic converter made the truck happy again. Tranny wasn't bad, but the poor engine wasn't running right.
Now all is well and it was a heck of a lot cheaper than $40k for a new truck.
On the travel trailer thing, we have been glancing around at used. Might find something. Found a mid-80's Prowler 5th wheel about 30' long for $2k. Thing looks new, well cared for, nothing wrong with it. Only problem is what the heck do we pull it with, lol. Will keep looking for something that the Titan can handle.
New York City Area
11K miles
No accidents
Moonroof, Automatic, Alarm
Interior: Excellent
Exterior: Many scratches on bumper. Couple small short scratches on body. No dents.
I was offered $8000 for my trade
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02 ES with 11k and probably $250 of road rash on the bumper, good color for NYC or Miami, we have the slider, auto, and I'm sure it's got all the power stuff being an EX .. these are pretty nice little vehicles, well made, run forever (properly maintained) ... dealer is offerering $8,0 .? .. seems a little on the short side, more towards $9, minus the work, $8,5 would seem fair for both unless your 11k vehicle "looks" like a 51k vehicle ..............
Terry.
Terry.
Next on hubby's list (much to my annoyance) is a boat in a couple years. I grew up on the water, not sure I want to go back there again.
High miles on a Plymouth/Dodge kinda kills it, maybe not so much the "rep", but there is oodles/tons/bunches of hi-miler Caravans out there, so you become one of "many", not one of few ......
"do you know the way to Retail Rd.?" (with the background music playing from the song ~ *do you know the way to San Jose.*) ..... .......... :^}
Terry.
Terry.
1. How much do you still owe on it?
2. Why did you take this long of a term knowing how many miles a year you would be driving? 25K/year? By far the longest term you should take out is maybe 36 months, 48 months on a Toyota.
You are probably best off to keep it at this point until it is paid off, you know the maintenance history of the vehicle. I would even keep it until the next major repair, excess of $500. Then buy a new Toyota, one of the few vehicles that has reasonable retail value with 125K or so.
Can you do a 3 or 4 year lease on a Toyota and pay for the excess miles up front? It might cost less in the long run.
- $100 in sanding and glazing to remove swirl marks on roof, hood, and trunk.
- $1000 damage to right side in sideswipe collision. Repaired, but there is a lot of overspray and just a hint of orange peel to the repair. And some tiny blue marks on the rear quarter panel.
- $500 damage to rear bumper, rear bumper cover and impact absorber replaced. Paint color is off if you look closely. Same body shop that did the last repair. I'm not going back there!
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Whoa, who's the body guy.. Hannibal Lector.?!? .. no frame damage, right.? the problem is going to be in 1 or 2 summer/winters when the friggin' paint starts going sideways, it's got some toys, but the miles are stiff .. hmm, based on your description "me" personally, I wouldn't want to put more than the tall $8's in it, then I would sell it to my worst enemy for $9,9 - or less .l.o.l..
Terry.
Mark
I remember I was thinking about a Yukon or Tahoe the first time the Alitma got banged up, now that I've driven one briefly and hauled some things around with it, I'm really glad I didn't buy one. The one I drove (current body style but 60k miles on a 2000?) had a DRL burned out, loose weatherstripping, various trim pieces falling off, and the cargo capacity was nothing to write home about.
2000 Maxima SE (moonroof, spoiler, etc)
lives in a heated garage in Chicago
Dark Green ext/tan leather int
auto
45K miles
single CD player w/Bose (not a multichanger)
Shape? better than rough for sure, prob avg.
Brakes redone
Gone through two Chicago winters
Interior floor mats one step north of crap, carpet's a little better
typical parallel parking dings you would expect, plus a couple of bigger items
1. Replaced driver's side window, and the rep window is a little irritating on the ears going up and down
2. In a full-throttle genius move, I backed into a light pole at the parking lot of a BK by the interstate in Rock Falls, Illinois. I was hoping they could just straighten out the bumper, but the body shop bill ended up bein 4 gees. F'in body work. Well, I guess it was the insurance company's prob for most of it. I'm sure the frame is fine.
I was just wondering, no real reason. I PROMISE to stay away from the car lots.......but nobody said anything about the RV lots. ;-)
am wondering about the trade-in price on my '03 nissan frontier sve 4x4 kc 5-spd, black, have added hipo air cleaner, minor hail damage from factory, mainly on the roof, which you don't really see unless you stand on the bumper...light dings on driver side panels. 10,000 miles. besides hail dings, exc condition (as new, bought in january). carmax offered me 15,500 not too long ago. also, whadya think i could get for it if i sold it privately??
thanks!
Terry.
Terry.
As always Terry's right. On an RV, buy used, unless you can find a screamer deal on a new one, which would be more than 25% off MSRP, but even then plan on keeping it until that depreciation curve gets flat, say 8 or 10 years.
There are great deals used, and if purchased carefully you can get 2 or 3 years use with little or no loss of value. Example: in 1/02 I bought a 1995 29' Class C motorhome for 22k. Needed tires and a few minor items. Did have a major expense when the gen set went kaput. $1500 later we had 110v again. But anyway, I just sold it for $21,300. Total depreciation and repairs in 30 months < $3000. BTW, this thing sold new for $39,000 in 11/94, from an MSRP in middle forties. Found the original sales invoice in some of the service paperwork. So it's still worth more than half the original transaction price. If purchased carefully, they can be "relatively" inexpensive. Just like cars though, don't buy new and then flip it 18 months later.
Rob
I'm making a play for a '92 vette convertible through private owner.
red(almost orange)28k....body cherry(dusty)needs a thorough
check up cause its driven so sparingly. He says its some sort of special option car, but for the life of me I cant find anything about it that makes it so. Were there any special options for '92?
I was thinking 12-14k???
Here in OK
Thanks!
I am letting you know.
Traded 2001 olds Aurora 3.5 with sunroof,traction control and heated leather seats with 38k miles in no sale green. In great shape except it needed shoes. You said $11k to $11.5 if in perrrfect shape. They gave me $12K. I was happy.This was at the 2nd dealer I went to in the Philly area
You also gave me $16,5 to 16,9 on an 01 Durango SLT,Black,29k miles,new tires,third row seat and 4x4 in great shape. The best they would do was my car and $6k.
Since you said Durangos are like fat girls ,there are alot of them around(used your line with the dealer , they got a good laugh too) I kept looking.
I found the twin except an '02,also Black(for some reason I love it in black)with only 25K miles and one year of factory warranty left. They were asking $19,9 . Sold it for $17,7 and 12k for my Olds. So $5,700 seemed fair to me.
Thanks again for your help. It really helped me to have some real world dollar values for the vehicles. Negotiations were much less stressful.
You provide a great service here.I will request that Edmunds double your pay.
Let's see. 0 times 2, carry the 1, divide by pi, add c, and uh, um. Yep, 0. Sorry, Terry. Etze, I'd send your request anyway. Math was never my strong suit. ;-)
It has a few rock chips here and there, a small ding in the hood (don't know where that came from) and a couple small dings in the pass side door (from its trip off the road last winter). None of that stuff is very noticable unless you are looking for it. Paint is glossy, could easily pass for an 02. Interior is very good.
I think the dealers just didn't know what to do with a 20k 1999, its definatly NOT normal mileage.
BTW, I'm at 6200 miles on the Titan and the Nissan dealer STILL has the 04 Explorer I traded in. Its in back, been there for over a month now, guess the techs drove it and said the tranny was shot. I figured as much, was so much fun to step on the gas and not go, then lurch forward. So they are still debating what to do with it.
we have an altima 2.5s with the convenience pack, 46k tall clicks, in the land of the cardinals...oops...wildcats. ;-)
but...
we have meteor shower action, bad buff job, and paint-by-numbers on the little miss's side, and we need a new bumper cover with the right color.
we have new shoes on the back, but we are wearing nikes on one foot and converse on the other.
trade side, we will need 2 new shoes, and as long as all the other maintenance is 100%, i would put it in the tal, tall, tall $8k's to the low low low $9's. if a dealer is in a good mood and smoking the funny stuff, you might see $10k, but dont count on it.
down retail road, asking price around $12.5k, send it packing with an offer of anything above $11k.
And, remember the old saying...
" If you want to PLAY Porsche, you'll have to PAY Porsche"
Seriously, these are money pits especially with those high miles. If you are concerned about maintenance costs and it sounds like you are, this is the WRONG car for you!
As far as tha price? I'll leave that to Terry
One of the big things with the 996's are the RMS, Rear Main Seal. Unfortunately these are fairly common problems with these cars and several cars have had 2, 3 or even more replaced and finally requiring a new engine. If this car has not had an RMS fail yet, then I doubt it will fail in the future. It seems that some cars are just plagued from the start while others are problem free.
Be prepared for service costs! With porsches, a stitch in time does save nine! Except that stitch costs $$$, but it's better than shelling out $$$$$ for the repair.
I'd look around some more just to get an idea of what kinda value you can peg on these. I know for a 99 with "normal" mileage, you'd pay high $30's low $40's
Good luck
friendly local indy German repair shop..$1100 - have to replace rear window.
Seems the wires for the light go through the window, and tend to break at the edge of the glass with no way to repair except get a new window with the wires exposed enough to connect to the light.
Makes you wonder what other maintainability nightmares are built into the car.
Sorry about the location... You are right, it is a great car. Problem is, it doesn't tow a boat. I got the boat, he got the truck. Oh well, your estimate is about what I thought. Thanks again!
Tammy
Terry.
Terry.
Terry
red(almost orange)28k....body cherry(dusty)needs a thorough
check up cause its driven so sparingly. He says its some sort of special option car, but for the life of me I cant find anything about it that makes it so. Were there any special options for '92?
I was thinking 12-14k???
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Just call the Chevy dealer in town and make an appointment, I think there was 4, but don't quote me and take the Vette with you .. lots of Vettes for sale, just make sure this one hasn't been repainted, stolen, lost in a divorce and the 5th owner is from Maine, you get the idea .. if all is well, then the $12/$14 range is Great, most are doing closer to the $16's with 1 owner and looooow miles ...........
Let me know ....!
Terry.
Porsches, like Vettes get ALL the money when they're clean and have short miles .. but, 101k .?!? .. like the little Dutch Boy said when he pulled his finger from the dike ~~ "Yiiiikes.!!" .......
You need to get a "real" education on these dudes and invest some time and get with some Porsche people, study the sites, contact clubs, meetings stuff like that, is it a 2 or 4 .. cuz' this one is worth anywhere from $9,000 to $35,000 depending on the history, condition, OEM/non OEM parts, options, paint work, color, brakes, type of service, type of rubber, scratches, barometric pressure, Mothers maiden name, the whole: What Where and When of it ..
This is NOT a vehicle that someone just "buys", as you can see from the rest of the posts, you have to "know-your-stuff" cuz' it can flat kill ya in repairs, I mean Kill YA .! .. scroll back 12/14 posts and read Bowkes post on the 928, he's in the biz and he doesn't have a clue what that one was worth, nor did his store (nothing personal Bowke) and I don't kid myself when it comes to repairs, I pay B-I-G money for a Porsche God to service mine, but I also know what I'm buying and I don't buy 101k anythings ..........................
Terry.
Terry.
Terry.
Got a call from the salesman at the Chevy dealership last night, they got the truck we wanted in and he was letting me know. Do you know how hard it was to tell him we were keeping the Dodge? Actually, wasn't hard at all, paying off that truck is a huge goal.
Hubby is happy again, says the truck is running great, no problems.
I'm with the other guys here, glad to hear you are keeping the Dodge until it's paid for. Nothing drives better than a paid for vehicle!
Just for fun (just like you Jolie, I went to "JUST" look). There was a huge RV show in San Diego where they had 150-200 units including travel trailers but mostly class A and C motorhomes. I popped in a "nice" unit, a 40 foot diesel pusher, leather all around, marble floors, corian counter tops, navigational, quad slides, 1.5 baths,etc.. listed for $430,000 and the "blow out sale" price was $370,000. After looking around, seems to me you can get a really nice class A unit for just under $200K.
The choice in travel trailers was amazing. If you can think it, they had it! They had toy trailers that had a ramp on the back, once the 'toys' were removed, it became a living room with pop down sofas, etc. That sounds like one for you Jolie, bring the four wheeler, motorcycle, jet ski and just unload and have fun!
Mark
The toy haulers are too heavy for my Titan (almost called it my daughter's name for it, yes, she named my truck). We are looking at a Fleetwood Wilderness Yukon 24BH, Keystone Outback 25RSS and 28RSS. All can be had for $20k or less.
We walked into a Class A diesel pusher, not sure of the length, but holy cow. Thing listed for $235k. They sure are pretty though.
4x4 5-spd
Black
10000 miles
This vehicle has minor hail dings from the factory. This is mainly on the roof, you have to stand on the bumper to see those. There are also light dings on the drivers side fenders.
Car max offered me 15,500 about a month ago. I would like to know what is fair from a dealer, also what could I get selling private party?
Thanks!
James, Louisville KY
Deke
M.
2000 Ford Contour SVT, black/black leather, sunroof, manual trans, 27k, looks good from a distance, but up close there's obvious paintwork to the driver's side fender and hood. Its a pretty bad job and I would have to look closer and only IF the price was right. Looks like ole Hannibal got his hands on it, lots of sand marks and orange peeling on the paint in the area that was repaired. Newish performance tires with aftermarket wheels, VERY dark tinted windows (illegal tint, would have to come off).
I did NOT drive it, but am curious if thier price is out of line. They are asking $11,900.
Price $13,977
Mileage 67,310
Silver/Grey (leather)
Four Door
5 Cylinder Gasoline/4 Speed Automatic
Stereo AM/FM Compact Disc Player
2WD
Price Includes A Premium Certified 100,000 Mile Warranty *** Traction Control *** Dual Heated Seats *** Memory Seat
Driver Air Bag; Anti-Lock Brakes; Air Conditioning; Alloy Wheels; Cruise Control; Passenger Air Bag; Rear Window Defroster; Power Seats; Leather Seats; Power Door Locks; Power Mirrors; Power Windows; Power Steering; Sunroof/Moonroof; Tinted Glass; Tilt Wheel;
I want to trade in my 95 Lumina (117K, royal blue, fairly loaded, 3.0 or 3.1 V6, good shape). The dealer is an indy. I want to offer (including my car) 10K initially and I don't want to pay more than 11K out the door. Is this reasonable? I would really love to pay 10K out the door but that may be pushing it. Should I offer even lower? I need a safe, reliable car but at 14K, I could get a 2002 Liberty with 50k!!! ARRGG!!!!