Toyota Solara

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  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    The VVT-i came out in the Highlander last year so you really are not a pioneer with this engine and the rest of the car is pretty much unchanged. The VVT-i technology has been used in other engines as well for several years now.
  • wree7777wree7777 Member Posts: 26
    Cliffy, Thanks for the reply. It's good to know that the engine has been around for awhile. I just got back from trying the car. The engine was nice and peppy but I was surprised to find that the steering was really sloppy, unlike 2000 and 2001 Solaras that I've test driven. Maybe it was just that particular car. The VVTi in the Camry 4dr automatic is very nice. I was surprised at how much I liked that car since I'm pretty partial to 5sp coupes.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    Since my job changed from sales to finance 6 weeks ago, I haven't been able to drive one of the new Solara or Camry 4 cylinder engines yet, but I have heard they are a real step forward. We're selling them as fast as we can get them in. The 4 cylinder Camry doesn't sit more than a day or two before being sold.

    I agree that the new Camry is a surprising car. I am a bit jaded about new cars (new trucks is another topic), but I really like the new Camry. If I didn't need a truck, I would probably be looking very closely at a new Camry myself.
  • disneynutdisneynut Member Posts: 12
    Have a new 2001 Solara SE with 15" stock wheels. Wife wants to go to the 16" alloy wheels. But ... what are the advantages or disadvantages to the larger wheels? Obviously, they look cooler. And obviously, when it comes time to replace the tires, it will cost more buying 16" over 15". But on to my question ... are there any differences in handling, ride, performance? Is it just looks that cost more? Or is there a gain or loss in the ride going bigger?
  • scsolarascsolara Member Posts: 47
    I just bought a set of 4 15in OEM Camry rims for my Solara (solid black). I will only be using 2 to mount my Hoosiers on, so I will sell the other 2 for $50 if anyone is interested. I live in Houston, TX. e-mail me at SCSolara
  • scsolarascsolara Member Posts: 47
    I have 17in rims and tires (came on the car when I bought it new), so I would not know the difference in handeling etc. I do know that the look is great! It fills the fender gap just perfect (better with the TRD springs installed). As long as you get the correct tire your speedometer will stay accurate. I live in Houston, TX so my biggest problem is potholes. Just make sure the rim you get is not a soft alloy and can take a few bumps. Some people say you "feel" more of the road with larger rims and tires, but I like the ride. But to answer your question, I think it is the looks that cost more.

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  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    scsolara-

    Like the wheels- LOVE the shine!

    fastdriver
  • ravvie4meravvie4me Member Posts: 110
    That's an absolutely BEAUTIFUL Solara! A black car is stunning when clean, and yours is no exception! Are those clear corners on there, too?

    -RAVvie4me
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    Wheels - The larger the wheels, the lower the profile of the tires so that the outside diameter of the tires stays the same. As the profile gets lower, the sidewalls get stiffer, the result is less cushy ride and better handling. I have the 16" wheels with 60 series tires (the sidewall is 60% as tall as the tire is wide), and the ride is great, the handling so-so. I would like to go to 17" and 55 series tires - this may be the best compromise. As you get larger wheels and smaller 50 and 45 series tires, the cushion of the tires becomes minimal - you feel every little bump, but the handling is terrific! Choose what you need.

    SCSOLARA - only one word -- AWSOME!
  • webguysterwebguyster Member Posts: 434
    Is this Zaino? My blcak car is covered in swirly towel marks, from car washes. What are you using?
  • disneynutdisneynut Member Posts: 12
    Well, we did it, bought the 16" alloy wheels. Full set of 5, spare being the same, with tires with only 8,000 miles on them was $700 from a private party. We couldn't resist the look and price break, especially when the wheels alone are $350 each dealer. The seller had jumped up to 17" wheels and was looking to dispose of the 16" he had. As he works at a Toyota dealership, we imagine he probably got a good inside price on the 16" and 17" both. The tires are standard, full-size 16" tires, not low profile. Didn't notice any difference in feel on freeway home, but they sure do look sharp.
  • disneynutdisneynut Member Posts: 12
    OK, we bought the new wheels. Front looks great. But the rear brakes are drum brakes. Which makes for an ugly, reddish brake drum sitting behind the rear wheels. Any suggestions on how to ... get the red out?
  • radracerradracer Member Posts: 96
    when i went from 205/55/16 to 215/45/17, my car handled WORSE. i used the same exact tires, but the sidewall was not very stiff at all on the 17's! that's because they were mounted on wide rims, which means it stretch to the outside. but now with my 235/45/17's, the tire fits perfect and the handling is great, but that is mostly from a wider contact patch and wider track on the new rims. your suspension effects your handling the most, not your rim/tire setup. also, as long as you keep the same air psi, it shouldn't be any different in stiffness whether you have a 60% or 40% profile.
  • disneynutdisneynut Member Posts: 12
    scsolara, thanks for your answer back there on the 20th. We went with the wheels, and you are correct. There appears to be no difference other than looks. A 140 mile drive on the freeways at 70-85 was quite comfortable handling and riding, no difference in feeling from the 15" wheels. In fact, the 85 wasn't realized until looking down at the speedometer and going "whoa ... the fast lane cars are moving on out."
  • scsolarascsolara Member Posts: 47
    ravvie4me - Yes those are clear corners (self made). They look SOOO much better than the amber corners.

    webguyster - Since it was brand new, nothing has touched my car except Zaino product (exterior). To eliminate swirl marks, I have 100% white cotton towels that I only use for Zaino application and removal. I even wash them seperate from other towels. I paid the extra money and bought the expensive ones from JC Pennys to ensure high quality cotton. I use a shammy to dry the car. Wal-Mart has this nice one that comes already moist. It has worked wonders, and is easy to carry around to car shows and stuff. A California car duster finishes the job and keeps dust and pollen off of the car. If you want to eliminate swirls that you have, follow the full Zaino set-up (clay bar, dawn wash, polish lock, then swirl remover). After a couple coats of swirl remover start using the regular polish and z-6 spray. The inital cost is high, but the results are worth it and the products last a long time. My inital order has lasted me over a year washing the car every weekend, and polishing every other. Good luck.
  • wayne1638wayne1638 Member Posts: 3
    Bought a 2002 SE V6 w/sport package (5 spd, pwr seat, moonroof, 16 wheels, JBL upgrade sys). No leather. Paid $21,650. Great car - no pulling to the left, etc. - smooth & fast. Was this a good price?
  • ezshift5ezshift5 Member Posts: 858
    ..........you got a deal to me. My '00 V-6 5-speed with side airbags, JBL, spoiler, 16" wheels and 8-way power seat + DWP was $24850 OTD (tax, license, doc fee) and I didn't even get the sunroof.
  • scsolarascsolara Member Posts: 47
    Yeah, sounds good. My '00 V6 5spd (loaded with leather, sunroof, wood grain, tint, alarm, etc. + 17 in rims/tires, TRD exhaust, and lojack) was 26500.
  • CRJCRJ Member Posts: 15
    Hello,

    I have a 99 SLE and the lease is up in three weeks. I just have to say that this has been the best car I have ever had and cannot wait to get another. I visited my dealer today, inquiring about what he could do for my next lease.I told him what I was looking for, but since it was not on the lot he was going to do a search and get back to me. Before I left he wanted to let me know that the lease costs are much higher than they were three years ago, and didn't want me to be surprised when he got back to me with numbers. He explained that the finance companies have taken a beating on cars in the past because they were establishing residual values that were too high. He said that recently the residual values have dropped considerably and, in turn, lease rates have risen. My question to the forum is, how have others been making out with their leases? I am looking at a 36 month/12,000 mile lease on another SLE with all the bells and whistles. When I leased my current Solara, back in '99, the gross capitalized cost was $26456, I put $2000 down, and the residual value was calculated to be $17175. My lease payment was $343 a month. The current residual value (trade-in) at Kelly Blue Book for my car is about $17400, which is just about what they estimated three years ago, so I am confused. Is it that residual values have changed so much, or have the percentage rates charged by finance companies jumped. Since I haven't heard back from my dealer yet, I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I would like to hear about other lease experiences. If anybody has any input, it would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.
  • radracerradracer Member Posts: 96
    What? That doesn't sound right. Everything is going down at this time. Why would residual values go up? That would be bad for the economy at a fragile time like this. But I don't understand why you would lease another Solara? Why not buy it out? You've already put $14k into it and only need about $14k to go to own it. If you go into another 3 year lease, it'll cost $14k again for the same car and after this lease is over, instead of owning a car worth at least $10k that you can resell, you won't have anything.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    Your dealer is preparing you for a grim reality and has told you the truth on the residuals. Currently, a 36 month residual on a typical SLE with an MSRP of $27107 is $14171. That means you are leasing $3000 more than you did in '99. Payments could jump as much as $100 per month.

    The reason given was also honest. Toyota has taken a beating at auction over the last 2 years on "off lease" cars and have dramatically lowered residuals to prevent that in the future. I think they have gone too far, but that is the reality we are living with.

    I am generally a fan of leasing and have leased my trucks since '94. Leasing is your best protection against overpaying depreciation and usually results in lower payments. It also allows for shorter trade cycles without the chance of negative equity. Low residuals make the lease less attractive now though.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    One more thing to consider. At auction, a '99 SLE is going for around $14K at the moment. Paying $17K to buy your out would be overpaying for it.
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    Radracer -
    What is happening is that the residual is going DOWN, not up. The amount that you must pay for, which is the balance, is going UP. In 1999. the Solara was brand new, there was no way to know what they would be worth in 3 years, so they guessed. Meanwhile, as much as 80% of new cars are now leased, providing a HUGE crop of off-lease used cars as the leases expire. SO - the auction prices drop, and the bank's estimate of the residual value of the car goes down. I am sure that this is true of almost ANY brand and make of car at this time. This will also drop the price of used cars at the dealer, so those that BUY new cars will also lose more, as the car will be worth less when they go to trade or sell it.

    Also, leasing is still the best way to drive a new car. You must think of DRIVE vs. BUY. Buying is only worth it if you are going to keep the car a LONG time - 10+ years. You suggest that he buy the car for $14K. Well, if he finances it for 3 years he will pay $17K for the car, which will be only worth about 8-10K in 3 more years - a LOSS of $7-9K. You don't have something at the end of the purchase, you still have a loss.
  • radracerradracer Member Posts: 96
    Well, if you're going to sell it after 6 years, your total cost of owning the car would still be about $320/mo, which is about the same as the lease so that might be pointless, but by waiting 2 extra years, it will still be worth quite a bit and in the end you'd be paying an average of $250/mo for 8 years. It's just an option I'm throwing out since he wants the same car. But obviously one of the reasons people lease is to not have to deal with the same car for 8 years. If I liked a car enough to lease it twice, then I'd definately consider purchasing it.
  • wree7777wree7777 Member Posts: 26
    Well I finally did it thanks to all of you and your helpful comments. I bought a 2000 Solara SE V6 MT w/ tan leather in diamond white pearl. I LOVE the car and can't wait to go on a nice long road trip!!! My only question is about the headlights not seeming very bright. There is barely any light showing on the road at all. Dealer claims they are aimed appropriately and that the voltage is correct and that they've never heard of this, but that they have heard complaints of Solara headlights being TOO bright. I can stand in front of mine and stare right at them and not be blinded in the least. In fact they don't look bright at all. Is that the way they are supposed to be? How much brightness difference, if any, is there supposed to be between the daytime running lights and the normal headlights? Thanks in advance for any comments/advice...
  • silversolarasilversolara Member Posts: 113
    take your car back to the dealership in the evening. line it up against 2 or 3 other Solaras, then turn on all sets of headlights and compare.
    there should be a very noticeable difference between the intensity of the DRL's vs. normal headlights.
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    also make sure you're not confusing DRL's being on with the headlights being on-- then again, i assume the auto headlight on feature is working also.
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    wree7777 -
    Maybe the headlights on the Solara are simple better contained than your previous car, and more goes DOWN the road instead of ON the road? It would be the same for when you were looking at them. If you are not squatting down, on the same level as the lights, you will not get much light.

    silversolara's suggestion is good - aim them at a wall from 30-40 feet away and compare with some other cars.
  • redtrain65redtrain65 Member Posts: 24
    .. purchased the Solara. I test drove one in 5/2000 and no where in my town was a Gold one that I wanted.... they weren't giving me anything for my trade... and my wife wanted me to get a 4 door for the kids... settled for an Accord 3% over invoice and they gave me $1,000 more for my trade... I had too. I loved the Solara, could not get over how quiet it was. My next car I think....
  • wree7777wree7777 Member Posts: 26
    Tonight I had a chance to drive out into an area without streetlights and test out the headlights again. When I took it to the dealer (noted above) they said they made a very small adjustment but that it had basically been fine. Well, fortunately, in tonight's test I could see very well, so evidentally that small adjustment had a rather major impact. I can also now see a big difference between the DRL and the headlights. Yes, I was turning on the headlights before not just seeing the DRL's. (Didn't realize until today that it had the auto-on feature -- pretty cool!) Anyway, it seems to be plenty fine now. Almost wonder if there could have been a short that got jostled into working..?

    On another note, I was just over reading the Accord coupe board, and reading comments from an Accord owner about the Accord being such an excellent car but not being very inspiring. Too bad they didn't buy a Solara V6!!! My "new" car is very inspiring to me! I think they call it true love... :-) Love the smooth ride (everyone comments on it), sporty handling, the power, the leather, and the awesome stereo (everyone comments on that too), and it's just so darn smart -- auto on/off headlights, etc. Just can't drive it enough... If anyone reading this is still looking for a car, and you don't like the handling of a Solara, try another one... I drove half a dozen of them (4's and 6's) and found quite a bit of variation in them, e.g. a new 2002 V4 that I drove had terrible handling (very loose steering) and yet a 2002 V4 Camry (not Solara) had great handling.
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    well...having driven the solara 1999 se v6 5 speed for 30K miles and then selling it and buying a 2001 v6 accord coupe (I sold mostly because i found i hated leather seats), i found these are both nice cars.... solara had smoother ride, much better jbl radio...much better headrest adjustment/tilt steering adjustment/....while the accord has better handling/feel for the road...much better center armrest/coinbox/storage bins...much better fuel filler door (it gets out of the way to allow the nozzle easier access).... anyway, each car has it's pros and cons.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Member Posts: 932
    We've got a BLACK 1999 Solara V6 SE 5 Speed. We use this Turtlewax (I think) now and it leaves white waxy stuff in crevices of the exterior. Does anyone know of a better product that doesn't do this? What do you all use on black cars to make them nice shiny? The exterior is starting to look a little dull. It's not like we live in the desert, so fading isn't involved. We just need to apply something to liven it up.
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    use that mail order stuff that you see written about here-- the name escapes me now
  • wree7777wree7777 Member Posts: 26
    Does anyone have recommendations (pro or con) on a good leather conditioner/cleaner for the seats? How often do you apply it?
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    wree7777

    For Leather, you cannot go wrong with Lexol - this is great stuff, been around for many many years. Put it on with your hands a rub it in! It is terriffic. Use twice a year. In between use Lemon Pledge on your plastic, chrome, wood, vinly and leather. It is also terriffic!


    coolguyky7

    For Polish, there is no choice if you really want the best appearance and protection - Zaino Show Car Polish. Go to www.zainobros.com for the full story, and please go to the very active Zaino forum here to see comments from hundreds of super satisfied users! It is also VERY easy to use. Your black Solara can look like this:
    http://www.zainobros.com/files/photos/blackta.htm

    Also - go to post 1206 above to see a gorgeoous black Solara with a Zaino shine!

  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    I know there are at least 3 of us in the DC metro area and a few more up in NJ. If ya'll want to meet up some time, I'm up for it.

    As to whomever nominated Mackabee, I'll second it. I know him and have met him twice. He is much more prolific on the boards than he is in person. He is very quite and reserved in person. I enjoy his writing and story telling style. He is a car salesman down in Virginia Beach.
  • 2k1trd2k1trd Member Posts: 301
    Just wanted to see what kind of mileage people were getting from the stock tires.I have 20k on mine and they are pretty close to the wear bars.All 4 tires are worn evenly and at the same depth.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Member Posts: 932
    Thank you automophile!
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Member Posts: 932
    What mileage do you have on your Solara? Ours has almost 90,000 miles on it. (Mostly highway) How is your Solara holding up if you have more miles? It's a Toyota, so I think that it will run forever. I'm going to be driving it soon, since I am turning 16 soon, and my dad might be looking at the new Camrys.
  • fastdriverfastdriver Member Posts: 2,273
    coolguyky7-

    Click on my screename above and you'll see what a ZAINO shine can do to any color! ;-)) The darker, the better!

    automophile-

    THAT was the picture I was looking for a while ago! Do you think my car could ever look like that? Maybe if I retire and spend my days polishing! LOL.....

    fastdriver
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    Your car already looks better than that one!
  • radracerradracer Member Posts: 96
    those tires are rated at 160 treadwear...twice as less as a tire with good tread life. 20k is pretty decent...you can get 30k with very easy driving. mine slid all over the road in the rain so i replaced them at 1k. michelin x-one's are very good.
  • coolguyky7coolguyky7 Member Posts: 932
    WOW comes to mind when I see that shine! I'm definitely getting that to liven up that icky black Solara. Does Zaino leave a white waxy residue in crevices?
  • automophileautomophile Member Posts: 780
    Zaino does leave a slight residue, but it is very slight because you apply only a tiny amount at at time. However, when it is dry, it dusts right off, easily. It is really easy to use a fluffy towel in the cracks to remove the dust. One thing - If your paint is deteriorated a bit, you will need to use a real "polish" to smooth down the paint and remove the scratches. Zaino is totally non-abrasive and will not do this. I recommend 3M pad polishing compound, and than a "clay" treatment to make the paint super smooth. Then - you apply 2-4 layers of Zaino, and you get a car that looks like the one in the photo! It is really NOT a lot of work! My Diamond White Pearl Solara looks fantastic, and dirt doesn't stick! Please start reviewing the Zaino forum here - it is very active, and you will get a lot of good tips.
  • CRJCRJ Member Posts: 15
    Hi everyone. Just wanted to thank you for the input I received regarding leasing another Solara. I ended up getting a new 2002 Silver Solara SLE, and must say it is a great car. As I explained previously, the dealer warned me that lease prices have gone up since 1999 and not to be shocked when he told me what the cost would be. I must say, the dealer offered a great deal (about $1800 off MSRP) and the lease came in around $349 per month, which is only six dollars more than I payed on my '99 SLE. The salesman I dealt with explained that the estimated residual values for leasing purposes have dropped considerably, and he was right. The residual value of the 2002 SLE for a 39 month lease is around $13500. The residual value of my '99 SLE was around $17200. I was prepared to hear the lease was $100 more per month, as cliffy1 described, however the dealer was very honest and up front about the overall cost and was able to keep the lease cost in line with what I was previously paying. Overall the whole deal was another pleasant experience with a great dealer on a wonderful car.

    I do have one comment regarding a change in the new 2002. The auto on/off feature for the headlights has apparently been removed. This is a small thing, but I got used to it with the '99 SLE and it was really handy. Instead of providing that great feature, now the daytime running lights can be turned on or off. At first, I thought I was doing something wrong or the photocell in the dash must have been defective, so I stopped back to the dealer and inquired about it. My salesman told me the feature was deleted and that the photocell would allow the daytime running lights to become brighter as it got darker outside. This makes no sense to me. If the daytime running lights need to be brighter, chances are your headlights need to be on. Does anyone have any comments regarding this? All of the other changes seem to be for the better, but this one seems to be a step backwards.

    Thanks.
  • har1bushhar1bush Member Posts: 207
    probably means that if you are driving at dusk, under some shadows, or in a tunnel, the daytime lights get brighter... I agree that this is probably a step back from the original auto-on/off headlights, but maybe Toyota knows something that we dont.
  • cliffy1cliffy1 Member Posts: 3,581
    Keeping you that close to your previous payment was a pretty good trick. I'm glad it worked out for you.
  • ral2167ral2167 Member Posts: 791
    as former solara owner, i'd be unhappy if the auto headlight feature was deleted on the new solaras.... the accord coupe lacks that, and i liked it on my 99 solara...
  • wree7777wree7777 Member Posts: 26
    Thanks for the tip on Lexol re: cleaning / conditioning the leather seats. I checked out their web site and it looks pretty good. Says that sometimes car dealers carry it, so I'll check that possibility first.

    How well do leather seats hold up over the long term compared to cloth seats assuming proper maintenance on both? The '89 Accord coupe that I just sold had cloth seats that still looked like new at 12 yrs of age!

    Got 30 mpg on the first tank of gas; half of that was the hwy trip back home from getting the car followed by half a tank's worth of an equal mix of hwy/city driving. Got 28 mpg on the 2nd tank with about equally mixed hwy/city driving. I'm relieved since I was afraid a V6 would "tank" (hah!) my gas mileage especially since I like to punch the gas pedal a bit. It's a stick shift. What are others getting on the Solara V6, esp with manual trans?
  • ojcojc Member Posts: 31
    My Black Beauty does great with MacGuire's. Unfortunately, the paint on Solara's is so thin that crevaces start very early. This was a post many months ago, and never had resoltion. In fact, any called Toyota, and to no avail because our cars are just chipping and scuffing like crazy. Nothing like our Lexus or our previous Toy.

    I get 24 MPG with 70%HWY/30%City, in a V6 5 speed with 30,000 miles. Like clockwork. I drive it fairly fast. With A/C on it plummets...to 22.5 (great in my book for a hard driver)

    Lexol rules for leather conditioning. Should last 5-10 years easily. Mine at 3 years is like new. Blue Magic as a cleaner is also great, and is a nice pre-Lexol app.
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