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Year/Make/Model: 2001 Mitsu Eclipse GT
Body Style: 2dr
Engine: V6
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: 85000
Color: Red/tan
Major Options: infinity stereo, moonroof, 5spd manual
Condition:
Car is in above average shape inside and out.
Tires - front tires are worn over 50%
Brakes - good
Maintenance - up to date
Other: No damage, no accidents
I am looking to trade this in at an Acura dealership. I owe 5k on it. Thanks for your assistance!
I was thinking more like major damage. You know huge dents, fender hanging off etc...
Thanks!!
How about the wife's car? Really like those new 'stangs. This would be at the Ford dealer in Wilmington NC.
2001 Ford Mustang Deluxe Coupe
3.8 liter V6 AUTO RWD
38,000 miles, super clean, all records, no whammies
Dark red exterior ("laser" red?), dark grey (charcoal?) cloth
CD, cruise, alloys, all power, but no fog lights, no ABS or traction control
New tires but might need pads soon (rotors are great)
Very nice driver/looker- aftermarket stainless steel dual exhaust (all the way) and some black decals on the hood / bumper which match the side decals from the factory
This one's almost paid for, and she'll drive it until the wheels fall off (or until she gets a '65)- but I might be able to talk her into trading for a new one (with a stick!) they ride/handle so much better and are much more comfortable- or would you wait 'till spring and try to retail her? Thanks again!
Location: Bowie, Maryland, which is about half-way between Washington, DC and Annapolis, MD.
Year/Make/Model: 2002 Chevrolet Camaro SS
Body Style: 2dr
Engine: LS-1 V8 (stock Z-28 engine he says)
Driveline: RWD
Mileage: 11,000 (yes, 11,000)
Color: Midnight blue exterior; tan leather interior
Major Options: T-Tops, power driver seat, pw, pdl, AM/FM w/CD, basically loaded. SLP exhaust upgrade to 345 HP; performance 327 rear-end; custom SS floor mats.
Condition: Car is about as close to "as new" as I have seen for a car that is 3-years old.
Tires - Goodyear Eagles stock w/11K miles
Brakes Original w/11K miles
Maintenance--Done to specs, oil changed to synthetic oil when purchased and maintained with such.
Other: No runs, no hits, no errors, simply is "Mint". Car is driven mostly highway miles, golf course to golf course!
Hi. Hoping you can help. It's not easy getting 'real-world' values on these conversion vans, eh? Would like to sell to a private party:
Location: California San Jose
1998 Dodge RAM van 1500 long wheelbase
White outside, grey inside.
5.3 liter V8 Auto RWD
76,000 miles
PS, PW, PLocks, ABS, AC, Cruise, AM/FM/Cassette
Conversion by Mark III incl Rear AC, Alloy wheels, 4 leather capt chairs, drivers seat power, power up/down leather sofa/bed in back, TV, VCP, nice ambient lighting, alarm system.
Condition is good in and out. A couple very minor dings, scratches. Paint good.
New Yokohamas about 4000 miles ago. Ditto front brakes.
Maintained by dealer. Runs good. No known mech problems.
Thanks for any ideas on value.
Actually it's pretty easy, I used to be a MKIII dealer a few years back ... the hard part is the right info ....
high top ..... low top.?
Big discount, no top ....?
Terry.
I think part of this problem is when people try to get cars that just come out (new or redesign). Usually, people pay at or close to MSRP** ..
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We can always blame it on paying too much, that the easiest excuse there is .l.o.l.. ... but lets not forget, the vast majority of buyers put little or no money down and for the ones that do put money down, it's usually not enough to even cover the taxes and fee's .. and lets not forget the length of the loan, especially with folks going 66/72/84 months ~ there is more than one leg to that table, it's always easier to blame the other guy .............
Terry.
2004 Acura TSX
CPO
6 speed manual
37,617 big miles
silver with gray interior
no navigation
exterior and interior in good but not new shape
cheap aftermarket wheels/tires (stock size)
no apparent prior damage.
They have it listed in $24K. They had it on ebay twice. One time the bidding reached $18,500, the second time $17,500, but the minimum was never reached.
What do you think they need for this oddball?
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Bama' boy .... we have an 04 TSX, good color, we have the that movin' around thing between the seats, a bunch of miles and we have some Wal-mart wheels ... if the history is right, no paint by numbers, serviced and the rubber is deep ... then they probably have the super ultra tall $18's, low/mid $19's, might have fallen' on their heads and dropped $20 in it, maybe ..... Retail Rd.? $22ish would be all the cookies in the cookie jar ... the miles and the handshaker is keeping the crowds away ..
Terry.
Washington DC area
2002 Isuzu Axiom XS
3.5 liter V6 230 horse
4wd w/ 55,000 miles
Black exterior gray interior
minor damage to the rear bumper / also side swiped
a light pole on the drivers side left scratches on the door and it won't seal when closed(drivers door)
tires are the originals goodyear integrity
brakes are good
regular oil changes ( although some at dealer, jiffy lube and twice on my own)
ok now the biggie transmission has been replaced this week ( under warranty thank goodness)
the problem is i owe about 14k
( purchased the truck before i started in the car business)
thinking about selling ( my dealership has a demo program so no need to buy another car)
unfortunately my wife would get to drive my si
boy is hindsight 20/20
should I just suck it up and keep it?
after you are done laughing at me (it's ok i understand) please tell me what you think
Thank You for your time,
Josh
Using a Benz "S" class is not really a good example, the folks that purchase those types of high dollar dudes buy a car and with that car comes a status, a mark in life, a symbol ... that said, Black "is" popular, go to any dealership in Chicago/Cleveland/Boston/NY/LA and black vehicles sell well .. who ever heard of buying a new "black" A8 off the showroom floor in January with 15 inches of snow on the ground, but it's done everyday ...
The big difference is, down south, black cars don't sell well, even now with black being in Vogue, they still don't sell well - one stupid reason: they're hot .. and when you pick your skin off the seat and after that nice little visit to the local EMS, it kinda gives ya that "oh yeah" now I remember why I didn't want a dark car ..
Of course you will always get that first buyer in Houston, Shreveport, Mobile, Charleston and Tampa, the first time usually cures them, and how many black rental cars do you see in Vegas or Phoenix.? ... right now it's winter, so the first time buyers in Raleigh, Huntsville, Jackson, Little Rock and Scottsdale, might grab one ....
Depending on the area, in another 7/9 weeks you won't be able to give them away and in another 2/3 months, you won't see the southern dealers carry but one or two, unless they got hammered by the manufacturer or they stole it .... thats why (depending on the vehicle) they can be a $700/$1,500/$2,000 "deduct" at trade-time, and that includes those little S500's ... it's kinda like boats, how many do you see with black interiors, even in Wisconsin ... every dealer I saw today at the auction that was buying a dark vehicle was a Yankee dealer, Baltimore, Chicago, Denver, etc - it's a geographic business thing, not a personal thing .................
Terry.
Then there's the difficulty of maintaining a black exterior (Road & Track did a 6 page article on it once), but even that's not as hard to deal with as a black interior in hot weather, imo.
2003 Ford : Mustang GT Convert
Take a look here on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1- - - - &item=4519483013&category=6236 ---
$28,000 ..?!?
It's a $15/$16,0 vehicle come trade side ... $28,000.? .. I think thats the dollar conversion between Norway and the States .. I'm so surprised he hasn't had any bids .l.o.l.....
Real money ~ $19,900 *asking* grab $18,5/$19,5 if your south, and if your in the snow belt you can try to give it away for $17ish, maybe ..... $28,000.? it must be a misprint or someone is too close to the Jim Beam ...........
Terry.
automatic
16000 mi
tan interior
cold pkg
rear side airbags
atlas gray metallic
new 4/03 doesn't look a day over 12 months old
Albany NY
What trade in can I expect?
thanks in advance. I always enjoy your posts
Year/Make/Model: 2000/Toyota/Celica GT
Body Style: 2dr Hatchback
Engine: 1.8 liter / 4 cylinder / automatic
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: ~38,100
Color: Liquid Silver Exterior
Major Options: Allow wheels, moon roof, rear spoiler, fogs, aftermarket Sony CD/FM/AM Deck, original headunit included as well.
Condition: Clean interior. Dings on front inside door plastic from seatbelt releases hitting them. No stains or any large defects. Interior very sound. Exterior has minor scratches (hairline or less) or nicks. Largest defect is on passenger side door, deep-ish scratch a few inches long. Blends in with paint. Does not show bare metal.
Tires - Bought new in 06/03. Good % of tread left. At least 50%. Put < 20,0000 miles on them. Brakes - Perfect, smooth. Maintenance - All done. Other: Rear passenger side wheel well was dented in by another driver in a parking lot while I was not present. No structral damage, just the shell body. Fixed under their insurance. Front driver side wheel well was slightly dented in parking lot as well. Area right where the lip is, maybe 6 inches long, 2 inches high. Any help would be appreciated. I'd like all different values if possible. I feel my car is at least in good condition. Somewhere between KBB Good and Excellent. Mechanically it is perfect and I have never ever had a problem with it.
Location: Washington DC Metro area
Year: 1998
Make: Mitsubishi
Model: Diamante ES
Body Style: 4 dr
Engine: 3.5L V6
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: 52K
Color: Interior is gray. Exterior is silver
Major options: NONE
Condition: Exterior is in good shape. I did back up into a pole a few years back and there is a small area where the paint peeled away. Other than that no major dings or scratches. The interior is also in good shape. Even with two small kids I keep it very clean.
Brakes: Front brakes were replaced in 2002.
Tires: Car has new front tires.
We've kept up with the maintenance. Oil changes and all of that.
No accidents or damage.
I owe $8,736.00 and realize I won't be able to sell for that amount but would love to get as close to possible.
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DC huh ...? where the heck are my free tickets for the Inauguration ..?
98 Mitsu ES Diamante ... color is okay for the area, miles are super low, base model with no toys, got some new round things, stoppers are a help and we have the right service ... we have a few meteorite hits in the stern area, but if it's a nice one, cared for and it looks/drives and feels like an 02 ... then trade side, in and around the low/mid $3's, might "maybe" get a dealer to drop the tall $3's low low low low low low low low $4's in it cuz' of the looow miles ~ and if the planets are properly aligned ...... good vehicle down Retail Rd, superb DC detail, a glorious 5/6 liner Ad, all the service records falling out of ther glove box, $7,900 *asking* and drop kick that dude at the first $6,9/$7,5 .. ... if it's nice, the low miles will save it .. so, actually your not in bad shape if you can handle the difference money ...........
Let me know how it goes ...
Terry.
It's a low top I guess. I mean, the van's roof has not been raised.
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We think it's a nice car. We will probably definitely look towards a private party sale. Right now we are wanting to buy a mini-van.
Any suggestions on how to time a private party sale w/ buying new from a dealer?
I'll keep you posted. Oh about the Inauguration...luckily my dh gets off work. We are staying far far away from downtown. lol
Chantel
How about the wife's car? Really like those new 'Stangs. This would be at the Ford dealer in Wilmington NC.
2001 Ford Mustang Deluxe Coupe
3.8 liter V6 AUTO RWD
38,000 miles, super clean, all records, no whammies
Dark red exterior ("laser" red?), dark grey (charcoal?) cloth
CD, cruise, alloys, all power, but no fog lights, no ABS or traction control
New tires but might need pads soon (rotors are great)
Very nice driver/looker- aftermarket stainless steel dual exhaust (all the way) and some black decals on the hood / bumper which match the side decals from the factory
This one's almost paid for, and she'll drive it until the wheels fall off (or until she gets a '65)- but I might be able to talk her into trading for a new one (with a stick!) they ride/handle so much better and are much more comfortable- or would you wait 'til spring and try to retail her? Thanks again!
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In the land of the Tar Heels .. these new Stangs are going to be a big big winner for Ford ...
Sooo, maybe thinkin' of trading the 01 auto V6 el coupe' ... we have the ruby red with the grey guts, tunes, power pack and we are rolling around with 38k - and you say it's nice .... you know the deal by now, no Maaco, no Bonnie and Clyde interior, just a nice one .. trade side, in and around the low/mid $6's, might get a dealer to be a brave Hiawatha and roll towards the $7 figure, maybe ..... me personally, these are great little drivers down Retail Rd, finish any service, come to Jesus detail, super 4/5 liner in the biggest paper in the "hood", $9,490 *asking* get all teary eyed at $8,5/$8,9 - but take it ....
Don't forget the update.!
Terry.
THANKS
REPOST:
Hi. Hoping you can help. It's not easy getting 'real-world' values on these conversion vans, eh? Would like to sell to a private party:
Location: California San Jose
1998 Dodge RAM van 1500 long wheelbase
LOW TOP - roof same as reg van.
White outside, grey inside.
5.3 liter V8 Auto RWD
76,000 miles
PS, PW, PLocks, ABS, AC, Cruise, AM/FM/Cassette
Conversion by Mark III incl Rear AC, Alloy wheels, 4 leather capt chairs, drivers seat power, power up/down leather sofa/bed in back, TV, VCP, nice ambient lighting, alarm system.
Condition is good in and out. A couple very minor dings, scratches. Paint good.
New Yokohamas about 4000 miles ago. Ditto front brakes.
Maintained by dealer. Runs good. No known mech problems.
Thanks for any ideas on value.
Location: Miami, FL
2003 Ford Ranger Edge
2 Door Supercab
3.0 V6 Manual RWD
Miles: 28,000
Color: Black
Major Options: 4.10:1 Limited Slip, Sliding rear window, Power windows and mirrors, keyless entry, cruise control/tilt wheel, Edge Plus package, privacy glass, in dash 6 cd changer, Dual Exhaust, bed liner, silver 15" alum alloy rims.
Condition inside: Clean/ normal wear. nothing damaged inside.
Condition outside: Few dings on bed rail/ could easily be covered with rail caps. Tires worn 50%
Maintenance: air filter replaced with K&N, Oil changed ever 3k miles, brakes- excellent.
Minneapolis, MN
2000 VW Passat GLX
4 door sedan
2.8 liter V6
FWD
71,000
Auto Trans. / 6 disc CD changer
exterior paint very good. Rear fender was dented and repainted and repaired 2 years ago. Minor rock chips on hood. Interior very clean, everything works as new!
Tires 80% left.
Brakes re done less than 3K ago
All Maint. done by dealer, just had all oil seals on engine replaced (under warranty thank god!)
Do you help us hosers up north, too?
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
Year/Make/Model: 2002 GMC Jimmy SLS
Body Style: SUV
Engine: 4.3L Auto
Driveline: 4WD with "AUTOTRAC"
Mileage: 55000 KM (34000 miles)
Color:Pewter Exterior,Pewtercloth int.
Major Options: Alloys, Floor shifter, overhead console, compass/temp indicator in console
Condition:Interiot - very good condition. Shampoo'ed every 6 months
Tires - worn, but marked as "Green" by service
Brakes - good
Maintenance - all records, still under warranty
Terry
Washington DC area
2002 Isuzu Axiom XS
3.5 liter V6 230 horse
4wd w/ 55,000 miles
Black exterior gray interior
minor damage to the rear bumper / also side swiped
a light pole on the drivers side left scratches on the door and it won't seal when closed(drivers door)
tires are the originals goodyear integrity
brakes are good
regular oil changes ( although some at dealer, jiffy lube and twice on my own)
ok now the biggie transmission has been replaced this week ( under warranty thank goodness)
the problem is i owe about 14k
( purchased the truck before i started in the car business)
thinking about selling ( my dealership has a demo program so no need to buy another car)
unfortunately my wife would get to drive my si
boy is hindsight 20/20
should I just suck it up and keep it?
after you are done laughing at me (it's ok i understand) please tell me what you think
Thank You for your time,
Josh
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Good morning Josh .. DC resident.? where the heck are my free Inauguration tickets.?
Well, lets see here ... 02 Izoozoo Axiom XS, we have 55k a little on the tall side, original rubber, 4wd, color is good for the area, a few terrorist attacks on the port side, tranny makeover .... as it sits, maybe the mid/tall $9's low low $10's come trade side, maybe .... down Retail Rd (just a guess) but $300/$500 in body/paintwork, matching paint, $250ish in rubber probably another $200 in just stuff, finish any service, a wonderful detail, a great 4/5 liner Ad in the Big paper, $13,900 *asking* $12,5/$13,5 gets a new owner ........ new in the car biz' ..? what will you be selling.?
Don't forget the update.!
Terry.
Thanks.
Dealers hear this more than any other issue.!
It kills me .. except for a few honest souls here, I'm "amazed" that it's not talked about more on Edmunds - it always ends up being: the dealer wouldn't make a deal, they were rude, they insulted me with a crazy price, they wanted more money down, they're trying to rip me off ... truth be known, most owe more than it's worth, of course we never hear about that part ~ it must be one of those Private Skull Fraternity secret handshake wink things ..l.o.l....
Terry.
thank you for you advice I really appreciate it
I sold hondas for a year. Now I am selling pre-owned Mercedes Benz
I'll post again when and if I can sell the beast
Josh.
Today's the day I will put the for sale sign on my MarkIII conversion van. Do you have any numbers for me? I'd like private party sale and trade-in numbers.
THANKS
REPOST:
Hi. Hoping you can help. It's not easy getting 'real-world' values on these conversion vans, eh? Would like to sell to a private party:
Location: California San Jose
1998 Dodge RAM van 1500 long wheelbase
LOW TOP - roof same as reg van.
White outside, grey inside.
5.3 liter V8 Auto RWD
76,000 miles
PS, PW, PLocks, ABS, AC, Cruise, AM/FM/Cassette
Conversion by Mark III incl Rear AC, Alloy wheels, 4 leather capt chairs, drivers seat power, power up/down leather sofa/bed in back, TV, VCP, nice ambient lighting, alarm system.
Condition is good in and out. A couple very minor dings, scratches. Paint good.
New Yokohamas about 4000 miles ago. Ditto front brakes.
Maintained by dealer. Runs good. No known mech problems.
Thanks for any ideas on value.
Body Style: [2dr/4dr/wagon]
Engine: [3.5 liter, 4/6 cylinder, auto/manual] 4.7 liter V8
Driveline: [FWD/RWD/AWD/4WD]
Mileage: 68,000
Color: [exterior/interior] Midnight Blue ext. Blue int.
Major Options: [alloys, sun roof, etc.] Hard tonneau cover, running boards, rain guards, bug shield
Condition: Very good
Details of interior and exterior, including dings, scratches etc. Very good, some small scratches on tonneau cover, scratches on interior of bed not visible unless bed cover is open
Tires - new or % worn 30% worn
Brakes New rears, very good fronts
Maintenance New U-joints installed @ 62K miles
Other: Indicate prior damage/insurance claims, repaints, etc. One owner, no accidents, insurance claims, or damage
Vehicle located in the Chicago suburbs.
Thanks for your help Terry and others.
We got 76k big ones, power pack, *5.2 motor, rear breeze, Quads with hydes, Disney package, power couch, new round things and stoppers ... "if", the paint is right, no collisions at K-Mart, no Mr. Maaco, no soccer Mom interior, no Swiss Army knife seats, everything works, the air is Polar and it feels/drives and looks like a 02 .. then trade side, in and around the mid/tall $5's, low low $6's, maybe .... down the windy path to Retail Rd, super detail, big fat Ad in the Big paper, $8,900 *asking* and cut it loose for the first $7,5/$8,5 .... good luck and let me know.
Terry.
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Year/Make/Model: 1998 Honda Accord EX
Body Style: 4dr Sedan
Engine: 4 Cylinder - Auto trans.
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: 114,000
Color: Dark Green/Tan interior
Major Options:
Condition:
Seller claims great condition and needs nothing. Bought used at dealer in 2002, and has all service records since then. Clean Carfax. Just inspected in PA, also just spent $1700 for 110k service at Honda dealer. New timing belt, tires, cat converter, brake pads. Never been in any accident.
Asking $6500.00
Thanks!!
Thanks much for your reply. I think I will have a nice detail done on it and maybe try a nearby 'leave it and sell it lot' (Wheels and Deals, San Jose). Meantime, wife is driving it to work at the mall with For Sale sign I stuck on there this AM before your message came in. And, proving once again that great minds think alike, the number I picked for the sign was ... $8900 !!
..... 98 Doe Je' Ram half ton with the long wheel base MK III ...
We got 76k big ones, power pack, *5.2 motor, rear breeze, Quads with hydes, Disney package, power couch, new round things and stoppers ... "if", the paint is right, no collisions at K-Mart, no Mr. Maaco, no soccer Mom interior, no Swiss Army knife seats, everything works, the air is Polar and it feels/drives and looks like a 02 .. then trade side, in and around the mid/tall $5's, low low $6's, maybe .... down the windy path to Retail Rd, super detail, big fat Ad in the Big paper, $8,900 *asking* and cut it loose for the first $7,5/$8,5 .... good luck and let me know.
Terry.
Location: Miami, FL
2003 Ford Ranger Edge
2 Door Supercab
3.0 V6 Manual RWD
Miles: 28,000
Color: Black
Major Options: 4.10:1 Limited Slip, Sliding rear window, Power windows and mirrors, keyless entry, cruise control/tilt wheel, Edge Plus package, privacy glass, in dash 6 cd changer, Dual Exhaust, bed liner, silver 15" alum alloy rims.
Condition inside: Clean/ normal wear. nothing damaged inside.
Condition outside: Few dings on bed rail/ could easily be covered with rail caps. Tires worn 50%
Maintenance: air filter replaced with K&N, Oil changed ever 3k miles, brakes- excellent.
92 Toyota Paseo
Aquamarine with black guts
Handshaker
faded paint (brought back memories of my old Shadow)
K-mart wheel covers
Full taliban interor, tastefully remedied with Wal-mart seat covers
Dark tint starting to fade to a lovely shade of purple
168K miles
Here's the part that will make Terry reach for the phone to call the local rehab center for this dude:
Price $2200!!!
I almost started laughing out loud. He had just dumped 1800 into this baby, so I guess he's trying to recoupe his 'invesment.'
What would be a realistic price on this?
Turboshadow
This is a great Forum!. Would appreciate it I could get a real trade in estimate for my car:
Details:
Make: BMW
Model: 325CI
Transmission: 5 speed manual
year: 2001
Mileage: 83,262
Body style: 2 door coupe
Color: Silver, Black leather Interior
Tires: Have about 25% life
Registration: Expires end of April
Trade in Location: Zip Code 94538 ( Fremont, CA)
Options:
Premium Package
Sport Package
Full leather seats
CD Radio
Heated Seats
Xenon Headlights
Records: All records are available as it was serviced at dealership
Car Condition: Excellent - no body damage at all, with a few stone chips in font bumper, hood and windshield, paint is perfect, interior is perfect with very, little wear signs ( no food or drinks spills either). Also nothing (radio, electronics, etc) is broken in the car.
Tires Condition: only about 25% left
Thanks so much!
Shan
How 'bout it? Terry? Drift? Steine?
Turboshadow
How about a nice, clean to the bone, 03 black/grey, 21k E320 with all the junk, serviced from yesterday ~ it glows in the dark and the seats have been hovered in ..
Terry
Ditto .!
Terry.
Year/Make/Model: 2000/Toyota/Celica GT
Body Style: 2dr Hatchback
Engine: 1.8 liter / 4 cylinder / automatic
Driveline: FWD
Mileage: ~38,100
Color: Liquid Silver Exterior
Major Options: Allow wheels, moon roof, rear spoiler, fogs, aftermarket Sony CD/FM/AM Deck, original head unit included as well.
Condition: Clean interior. Dings on front inside door plastic from seatbelt releases hitting them. No stains or any large defects. Interior very sound. Exterior has minor scratches (hairline or less) or nicks. Largest defect is on passenger side door, deep-ish scratch a few inches long. Blends in with paint. Does not show bare metal.
Tires - Bought new in 06/03. Good % of tread left. At least 50%. Put < 20,0000 miles on them. Brakes - Perfect, smooth. Maintenance - All done. Other: Rear passenger side wheel well was dented in by another driver in a parking lot while I was not present. No structural damage, just the shell body. Fixed under their insurance. Front driver side wheel well was slightly dented in parking lot as well. Area right where the lip is, maybe 6 inches long, 2 inches high. Any help would be appreciated. I'd like all different values if possible. I feel my car is at least in good condition. Somewhere between KBB Good and Excellent. Mechanically it is perfect and I have never ever had a problem with it. =============================
Good description, thanks.!
Except for a few little kisses and a touch here and there, it's probably not a bad little driver .. the miles are low, the color is right, we got the auto thing, slider, wing, foggers and the service is right, so lets say "good" -- excellent.? .. are you driving a new RL with 900 miles.?
These are nice little vehicles, "quirky" in the market, but nice ... some dealers do well with them and then the dealer 25 miles away can have one sit for 3 months, Yota has been shaking their head on this one for years .... trade side, in and around the low/mid $8's, might "maybe" get a dealer to wander towards the $9 figure, and on the right day, with the right barometric pressure and with the alignment of Jupiter in it's second phase, you could see the low/mid $9's, maybe ...... Me personally , no questions asked, down Retail Rd it would go, a super detail, a Glorious 5/6 liner Ad in the Big paper, $11,900 *asking* and kick and cry at $10,5/$10,9 -- but take it ....
Happy hunting and let me know.!
Terry.
The big difference is, down south, black cars don't sell well, even now with black being in Vogue, they still don't sell well - one stupid reason: they're hot .. and when you pick your skin off the seat and after that nice little visit to the local EMS, it kinda gives ya that "oh yeah" now I remember why I didn't want a dark car ..
Of course you will always get that first buyer in Houston, Shreveport, Mobile, Charleston and Tampa, the first time usually cures them, and how many black rental cars do you see in Vegas or Phoenix.? ... right now it's winter, so the first time buyers in Raleigh, Huntsville, Jackson, Little Rock and Scottsdale, might grab one ....
Depending on the area, in another 7/9 weeks you won't be able to give them away and in another 2/3 months, you won't see the southern dealers carry but one or two, unless they got hammered by the manufacturer or they stole it .... thats why (depending on the vehicle) they can be a $700/$1,500/$2,000 "deduct" at trade-time, and that includes those little S500's ... it's kinda like boats, how many do you see with black interiors, even in Wisconsin ... every dealer I saw today at the auction that was buying a dark vehicle was a Yankee dealer, Baltimore, Chicago, Denver, etc - it's a geographic business thing, not a personal thing .................
All well said, but then why is edmunds TMV only showing a price hit of $70-90 for a black car in its TMV pricing miodels. That's an order of magnitude off from what you're stating.
I've actually placed digital thermometers in several of my cars and left them there to sit while I'm at work and even light coloured cars can get VERY hot inside. I put one in a lt grey coloured interior that I had tinted the glass all around and at lunchtime the thermo read 144 degs F! That's pretty HOT, and the car wasn't black or any dark colour. I've burned my hands on the steering wheels of several grey and tan steering wheels too in addition to my black cars.
Bottom line after a certain amount of time outside ANY car is going to get real hot in the south.
As far as black cars being more difficult to maintain - that BS, they show dirt more readily than all the various beige-tan me-too coloured cars out there, but it's no harder to wash or wax a black car than any other colour. And when it's clean, it looks real sharp!
YMM: 2000 Cadillac Eldorado ESC
Body: 2 door Coach Builders Limited Convertible
Engine: Northsrtar 4.6L V8 275 HP
Drive: FWD
Mileage: 83,000
Colour: Crimson Pearl (Cadillac's "extra cost pearl paint)
Major Options: Chrome Wheels, dual power seats with memory and power lumbar, garage door opener, GM 12 disc CD changer Standard items included ABS, PASS Key, dual zone, AC, leather, etc.
NO BOSE SYSTEM (it was an option on ESCs standard on ETCs)
Condition: good / clean, no dents/ scratches / tears/ stains
Tires: Nearly new (3,000 miles)
Brakes: 50%
Maintenance: done at dealer, I have most records on hand.
Repainted fromt bumper and front surface of mirrors because of the massive bug problem we have here in FL.
Why am i even considering this? Because a dealer in Sarasota called me stating that they have a 2002 Eldorado (last year made) ETC (so it has the Bose system and stabilitrak, etc and 25 more HP), same crimson pearl colour, same hard boot Coach Builders conversion, and only 4,000 miles - all with a price tag in the stratoshpere!
So what do you think what would be good figures for either of these cars (me trading the 2000 in on the 2002)? In other words is it worth "it" to basically move up 2 years and back some 78,000 miles and what exactly is the the "it" worth???
I'm tempted but, I like what i have EXCEPT for the wimpy non bose stereo system!
Thanks