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I'm looking to trade in my 1996 Pontiac Bonneville SE for a 2002 Acura 3.2 TL in the suburban Philadelphia area. The Bonneville has 84,000 miles and is very clean both in and out. The options on the Bonneville are as follows: Group "1SB", 16" chrome wheels, bucket seats, remote keyless, rear deck spoiler, 225/60R16 tires. MSRP for the Bonneville was $24,577 with destination charge. Any idea what I can expect to receive as trade in value. The dealer offered me $4,500 based on Galves book values. I've already gotten a sale price of $28,440 for the Acura. Thanks for any assistance.
I think that $5K ought to be doable for your car but $4,500 isn't that far off the mark. Galves is a book used mainly in the northeast and is generally quite accurate in respect to market conditions. Its' actually printed by a large wholesale dealer.
And from the looks of things, if that's a Standard 3.2TL.. Isnt that like $500 off of sticker? I seem to remember reading that a few people have beaten that price...
My youth is over, I must get rid of my '92 Miata and get a minivan ('02 Ody most likely) now that we are having our second child. Sob. 80K miles, flashing airbag light (a common miata problem), aerial doesn't raise all the time, power windows, no CD, bald tires, new brakes and clutch though. I live in So. Cal, so I figure I can get a college student to pay more than a dealer would. Am I right?
I figure that it's about a $4,000-4,500 or so wholesale unit. I'd then deduct for the airbag light (I'm guessing a sensor? $200-300?) and about $300 for a set of tires.
That being said, put it in the paper for $6,950 and see what happens. I think that $5,500-6K is reasonable.
Son-in-law and daughter looking at 98 Avalon XL w/24000k. Toyota Certifed car at local dealer. Dark green, very, very clean..all options except it has a cloth interior. Asking price 18,995. What should they expect on trade for 95 Civic DX Coupe, red, 5 speed, air, CD, 106k. Nice car considering 106k, but needs one hubcap. Cleveland, Ohio area. Thanks in advance. As a former used car dealer with my father (been out for 16 years) I really enjoy your comments. You seem fair and honest..something the business really needs! A lot of the past car dealer reputation problem was created and earned by the dealers themselves, as I'm sure you will agree.
1999 Dodge Ram 1500 Short Bed Pick up. 5.2 L V-8, 5 Speed, A/C, Cassette, Anti-Lock brakes, Split Cloth bench seat, bright red, 27,000 miles, near perfect condition, 4x2 in southern CA? How much could I retail it for if I sold it on my own and how much would a dealer give me?
I agree, I wish that a good 50% of the dealers out there sorta got swallowed up... anyways...
The Avalon. Its' about a $14-14,500 car wholesale. Figure typical realistic retail is like $16;16,500 or so. But if its' certified, that's another 500-750 at least (If its Toyota Certified). So I think that $17,000 or therabouts is reasonable. $18,995 seems kinda high...
The Honda? Well, we both know about the miles thing... From looking at the market... $3,500 or so looks like wholesale on it. I'd put it in the paper for $5,900 myself though, I bet it sells easily. Cheapish Civics are great retail merchandise...
Hi, I would like to trade or sell my 95 explorer 4x4 4dr.. It just turned 80k with XLTplus package with Leather and Dual power seats. Nice Tires with Aftermarket roof rack. Any price ideas? Thanks.
Thanks for the quick answer. Will let you know how it goes. Will probably try to sell Honda themselves. They seem set on an Avalon..guess its just finding the right one. Keep up the good work here, its a great service you provide. I do miss the car business sometimes and may go back into it when I retire from present job (5-6yrs,)
Bill, hopefully you can help me too like you've helped others. How much would a dealer pay for my car (not a trade-in)? 114k miles, auto, leather/power/heated seats, no radio/tape (stolen), and many many new parts (if they even matter).
I already put an ad for $2500 but no calls so far (been a few days). I see its wholesale values at NADA, Edmunds, and KBB are around 1800 or so.
The last thing, if I decide to sell it to a dealer, would I get a better chance going to an Audi dealer than a regular used-car lot? Or does it even matter? Thanks a lot in advance.
I got it im March. I never liked it. Feels to heavy and soft to my taste and Bose stereo is terrible. I want to trade it in for BMW 530 but cannot find the trade-in info anywhere. It has 6K miles and Navigation. Please help.
Hey guy. it is the base model. Pretty basic work truck what was not used as such. The most it has ever done is a haul a washer and dryer home. Anyway that is a little higher than I expected so I am pleased. The mercedes dealer offered me 10 for it which pays the loan off and provides the down payment on my new car. Since I ordered the car I have about 8 weeks until delivery so maybe I will try to get an extra grand or two by selling it myself. Thanks
Bill, I need some help getting the trade in value of my vehicle. KBB and Edmunds TMV are about $2500 apart. Its a 2000 Ford Ranger XLT shortbed standard cab, 5 speed, stereo with cd and chrome wheels. It has 26,000 miles and is in excellent condition. Copper in color with bed liner. I live in the Dallas/Ft Worth Tx. area. Any help that you can give would be appreciated. Thanks
I'm not sure that you want to know what current wholesale is...
As far as dealers, I'd try independent used car lots, those who specialize in inexpensive transportation..etc... I'd doubt that an Audi dealer has a market for older cars to be honest.
Thanks for all the help. You're definitely an asset to this board. How would you price a 1992 Acura Legend L with cloth? It has 98K miles on it, but remain in true immaculate condition. I love that car, and took very good care of it. And of course, the Acura is reliable and runs like new. I'm now moving on to a new Lexus LS. What range should I expect? It's in Rosewood Brown (Purplish). Thank you.
Sorry about that. I forgot to mention that I will be trading it in for a Lexus LS430, which shouldn't really matter. But given your expertise with Lexus, thought I'd add that in. Thanks.
Hi, I have a perfect 1996 Honda EX (4-cyl) with 49000 miles. I purchased this car new and it still looks new. What is a fair price, considering if I trade for a new VW Passat I will try for the best price and pay cash for the difference. Thanks. John
Personally, I think that the car is worth about $5,500-6K or about 500-$1,000 back of where I'd normally hit that car. Lack of leather and purpleish brown color hurt it I'm afraid.
Why not try a Private sale? Try $8,900, you might be surprised...
Looks like $9K or so. Maybe closer to $9,500 in certain markets (If its' really that nice and no paintwork and not yellow or something... esp if its' like Silver or Champagne or White...)
That's a car that you can easily get $11-11,500 for privately I think (Honda Accords dont have a huge retail-to-wholesale spread like some other cars) but it will be a very easy sale I should think. There's always a strong demand for nice Accords.
Gotta love Hondas. 50% after 5 years! (Buicks lose that in 18 months!)
Bill, Thanks for the info. KBB hit it at $6900 which seems low and Edmunds said $9200 which seems high, so I think your numbers sound about right. We are going to trade it for a jeep wrangler and have negative equity, so the trade value does make a difference. Thanks for your help and quick response.
Its me again. Well, technically, I never leave, I just rarely post.
Anyway, I still haven't bought a vehicle and I'm on the hunt again. There is a '99 3.2 TL at a dealer here in Jersey. Its blue and its got 73,000 miles. Where do you hit this? The miles are, of course, high, but Edmunds still prices it at $21K. The dealer has it listed on the internet for $16,900. Should that scare me? I looked at it this evening (sunday and the dealer is closed) and there is no visible damage or anything. Is that a realistic price and Edmund's is just way off?
as always, thanks.
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Glad to be of help! Wow... KBB was well below market... wow... :dumbounded look:
Quite unlike them, in my experience they're generally quite high. $9,200 is about $500 or so high of the mark typically.. Uhh, I didnt want to say it but if its' that copper color... it hurts, and the results I saw reflected that.
A suggestion? On the Wrangler, go with White, Red, Silver, Black..etc... if you are open to color, a more traditional one will net you a touch more at trade-in time.
I went and looked in my little auction program... 65Kish mile ones seem to be doing like $17K +/- $500 or so at auction...
$16,900? Haggle of course but pull the trigger, in reality, $19-20K or so is fair retail. As you know, it does have an "intergalactic clock" so that hurts it a bit. If it were yours I'd say to shoot for $16K or so trade-in.
But it is cheaper than fair, I say its a deal, maybe they got lucky and stole it.. who knows. But I'd carfax it and... follow my paintwork link:
ok, i'll check it out. It might be a bit of a compromise for me since I really want a manual transmission, but maybe the auto-stick will suffice. At least the good deal will help me out since I'm trading in a car with quite a bit of negative equity on it. And, the TL will probably be more comfortable for me than the cars I'm looking for (BMW 328, Audi A4, Saab 93).
Another question, though, if ya can. How much do the miles hurt these? My big problem with getting a car with 73K miles is that, in 5 years, when I finish paying it off, I'm going to have almost 200,000 miles on it! It will virtually be a worthless car at that point. But, i guess i should just figure that I got my use out of it and be done with it and start over again.
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Could you estimate the trade-in value of 1999 Lexus RX300 - 2WD, leather, heated, memory seats, moonroof, roofrack, spoiler, ch-changer, traction control. I am in Colorado Springs, Co. 30,000 miles. Tiny (1/4 inch) rock chip in windshield, small dent from shopping cart, otherwise good condition.
Sorry for the lengthy post but: We just bought a new Chrysler T&C. We have to sell either of 2 cars. Car 1 is 1998 Honda Accord LX auto with 63K miles. Car is heather silver with cloth. Car 2 is 1999 Honda Accord EX v6 with leather. Car 2 has 57K miles and is dark green in color. Both non smoking in good shape. What is a good asking/take price for these for private sale in Memphis, TN area?
Could you estimate the trade-in value of 1999 Lexus RX300 - 2WD, leather, heated, memory seats, moonroof, roofrack, spoiler, ch-changer, traction control. I am in Colorado Springs, Co. 30,000 miles. Tiny (1/4 inch) rock chip in windshield, small dent from shopping cart, otherwise good condition. - It is silver with gray interior.
2001 Maxima SE 20th Anniversary Ed. 5 spd manual Black less than 7K miles Loaded w/ all available factory opts. No accidents In Wisconsin.
According to a manager-friend we have at the dealership, this vehicle was purchased new for $28K, and was just traded last weekend. He says we could get it now for around $24K. Seem fair to you? How much do you suppose they've got in it?
Just bought a factory exec at Nissan sale last week for 23500.Sounds like a great deal for you.Our's has 3000 miles on it but they probably bought it for 22500-23000.
Bill, Your thoughts would be appreciated on the respective trade and retail value of a '95 Millenia L in excellent mechanical condition and very good body/interior condition. i.e. no food ever allowed in car and regularly detailed. Mileage only 37k. From what I'm seeing so far, trade is not the way to go with this car.
OK... Lets' start with the 99. If its' nice, its' worth about $13,500-14K. Shoot for 14K, but if $13,500 is the best you can get youre not being taken. Problem is a 99 with 57K... That's wholesale. So I'd say to ask $16,900 for the 99 and dont take a penny under $15,500 IMO.
On to the 98. Silver is good, 63K on a 98 isnt as bad as 57K on a 99 but it also hurts it a bit. Still, I think that you ought to be able to get $9,500-10K or so wholesale. So ask $12,900 and I wouldnt take under $11,500 or so.
As a private seller I'd stress condition and highway miles (i.e. I have a 40 mile each wayt commute..) and also you'llhave these priced below most of the other ones on the market..
Hmm, Here in Florida (Where 70% of all 2WD RX300s are sold) its' a $26,000-26,500 or so vehicle on a wholesale level as you describe it. However, you're in CO with a FWD... I still wouldnt take less than $25,500. You may want to consider a private sale around $30K or so. KBB "retail" (haha) on your truck is like $33K...
Silver is good btw $27K if pearl White, $24K if Antique Bronze or that Red they had...
I'd say $7K.. you'll be at the top of the wholesale market buyt a 95 Millenia is only worth so much.,. you know?
I'd be gutsy. Advertise it like this:
"1995 Mazda Millenia L. ABsolutely immaculate condition, One Owner, never eaten or smoked in. Probably the cleanest one out there. Only 37,000 pampered miles, flawless throughout. Must see this gorgeous car! Only $12,900 Call Tommy 407-123-4567"
On the retail side I'd shoot for $10K-10,500 but that car couldbreak the bank to the right buyer...Remember one thing about price: "you can always come down"
$24K isnt too bad but who knows where they hit it. Reality of depreciation on those can bes scary.. I can buy 6K mile ones for like $20-21K or so wholesale for a really nice one.
Toyota dealer wouldn't budge from $23K. He said he called 2 dealers in Arizona and the highest bid he got was $22.5K. Of course, he also said that in 7 years he had never taken an offer to the desk without a deposit.
What should I expect to get for my 2000 S70 as a trade in? It's a venetian red with moon roof, CD, homelink, TRACS, Leather, 5sp. Auto transmission. The car has 27000 miles and I'm in Columbus, OH.
Boston area 71K miles 5 spd Emerald Green Mica/Grey cloth Cold weather pkg CD changer No sunroof
Very clean, but a few too many scratches and dings to rate "excellent". Is it worth it to do the bodywork myself pre-sale/trade, or to settle for a lower offer?
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I would not, retail, pay more than $17,500-18K or so for it.
What I would do is find one with 18K or so for $20-21K or so...
Bill
I think that $5K ought to be doable for your car but $4,500 isn't that far off the mark. Galves is a book used mainly in the northeast and is generally quite accurate in respect to market conditions. Its' actually printed by a large wholesale dealer.
And from the looks of things, if that's a Standard 3.2TL.. Isnt that like $500 off of sticker? I seem to remember reading that a few people have beaten that price...
Bill
I figure that it's about a $4,000-4,500 or so wholesale unit. I'd then deduct for the airbag light (I'm guessing a sensor? $200-300?) and about $300 for a set of tires.
That being said, put it in the paper for $6,950 and see what happens. I think that $5,500-6K is reasonable.
Hope this helps!
Bill
Son-in-law and daughter looking at 98 Avalon XL w/24000k. Toyota Certifed car at local dealer. Dark green, very, very clean..all options except it has a cloth interior. Asking price 18,995. What should they expect on trade for 95 Civic DX Coupe, red, 5 speed, air, CD, 106k. Nice car considering 106k, but needs one hubcap. Cleveland, Ohio area. Thanks in advance. As a former used car dealer with my father (been out for 16 years) I really enjoy your comments. You seem fair and honest..something the business really needs! A lot of the past car dealer reputation problem was created and earned by the dealers themselves, as I'm sure you will agree.
1999 Dodge Ram 1500 Short Bed Pick up. 5.2 L V-8, 5 Speed, A/C, Cassette, Anti-Lock brakes, Split Cloth bench seat, bright red, 27,000 miles, near perfect condition, 4x2 in southern CA? How much could I retail it for if I sold it on my own and how much would a dealer give me?
Thanks
You had the prescence of mind to get out!
I agree, I wish that a good 50% of the dealers out there sorta got swallowed up... anyways...
The Avalon. Its' about a $14-14,500 car wholesale. Figure typical realistic retail is like $16;16,500 or so. But if its' certified, that's another 500-750 at least (If its Toyota Certified). So I think that $17,000 or therabouts is reasonable. $18,995 seems kinda high...
The Honda? Well, we both know about the miles thing... From looking at the market... $3,500 or so looks like wholesale on it. I'd put it in the paper for $5,900 myself though, I bet it sells easily. Cheapish Civics are great retail merchandise...
Hope this helps!
Bill
If its' a base base, Looks like about $9,500-10K or so is wholesale, and retail is, say.. I'd ask $12,900 for it and see where that gets ya.
Bill
I already put an ad for $2500 but no calls so far (been a few days). I see its wholesale values at NADA, Edmunds, and KBB are around 1800 or so.
The last thing, if I decide to sell it to a dealer, would I get a better chance going to an Audi dealer than a regular used-car lot? Or does it even matter? Thanks a lot in advance.
John
Or, $9,950 yourself....
Bill
As far as dealers, I'd try independent used car lots, those who specialize in inexpensive transportation..etc... I'd doubt that an Audi dealer has a market for older cars to be honest.
Have you tried ebaymotors.com?
Bill
I dont really know where tohit this car. My guess is about 3,500 back of current market on new ones.
I'd shop it to a bunch of Acura dealers if I were you. Call and ask for the Used Car Mgr. Someone is gonna want that car...
Bill
4cyl or V6?
And I assume 2WD, right?
Thanks!
Bill
Thanks for all the help. You're definitely an asset to this board. How would you price a 1992 Acura Legend L with cloth? It has 98K miles on it, but remain in true immaculate condition. I love that car, and took very good care of it. And of course, the Acura is reliable and runs like new. I'm now moving on to a new Lexus LS. What range should I expect? It's in Rosewood Brown (Purplish). Thank you.
I have a perfect 1996 Honda EX (4-cyl) with 49000 miles. I purchased this car new and it still looks new. What is a fair price, considering if I trade for a new VW Passat I will try for the best price and pay cash for the difference. Thanks. John
John
Personally, I think that the car is worth about $5,500-6K or about 500-$1,000 back of where I'd normally hit that car. Lack of leather and purpleish brown color hurt it I'm afraid.
Why not try a Private sale? Try $8,900, you might be surprised...
Bill
That's a car that you can easily get $11-11,500 for privately I think (Honda Accords dont have a huge retail-to-wholesale spread like some other cars) but it will be a very easy sale I should think. There's always a strong demand for nice Accords.
Gotta love Hondas. 50% after 5 years! (Buicks lose that in 18 months!)
Bill
In the Southwest, they seem to be worth the most from what I am seeing. Looks like about a $7,500-8,000 truck to me.
Where did KBB hit it??
Hope this helps!
Bill
John
Anyway, I still haven't bought a vehicle and I'm on the hunt again. There is a '99 3.2 TL at a dealer here in Jersey. Its blue and its got 73,000 miles. Where do you hit this? The miles are, of course, high, but Edmunds still prices it at $21K. The dealer has it listed on the internet for $16,900. Should that scare me? I looked at it this evening (sunday and the dealer is closed) and there is no visible damage or anything. Is that a realistic price and Edmund's is just way off?
as always, thanks.
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Quite unlike them, in my experience they're generally quite high. $9,200 is about $500 or so high of the mark typically.. Uhh, I didnt want to say it but if its' that copper color... it hurts, and the results I saw reflected that.
A suggestion?
Good luck!
Bill
I went and looked in my little auction program... 65Kish mile ones seem to be doing like $17K +/- $500 or so at auction...
$16,900? Haggle of course but pull the trigger, in reality, $19-20K or so is fair retail. As you know, it does have an "intergalactic clock" so that hurts it a bit. If it were yours I'd say to shoot for $16K or so trade-in.
But it is cheaper than fair, I say its a deal, maybe they got lucky and stole it.. who knows. But I'd carfax it and... follow my paintwork link:
http://www.vauxhallpa.50megs.com/paintwork.html
Make sure it hasnt been smashed to hell...
Bill
Another question, though, if ya can. How much do the miles hurt these? My big problem with getting a car with 73K miles is that, in 5 years, when I finish paying it off, I'm going to have almost 200,000 miles on it! It will virtually be a worthless car at that point. But, i guess i should just figure that I got my use out of it and be done with it and start over again.
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Golden Pearl (Pearl White) with Ivory leather is worth a solid $2,000 more than Antique Bronze...
Bill
Take it for a good test drive. Make sure that you will be happy living with the car for 5 years!
Still, dont compromiuse...
Bill
We just bought a new Chrysler T&C. We have to sell either of 2 cars. Car 1 is 1998 Honda Accord LX auto with 63K miles. Car is heather silver with cloth. Car 2 is 1999 Honda Accord EX v6 with leather. Car 2 has 57K miles and is dark green in color. Both non smoking in good shape. What is a good asking/take price for these for private sale in Memphis, TN area?
Thanks,
Scott
2001 Maxima SE 20th Anniversary Ed.
5 spd manual
Black
less than 7K miles
Loaded w/ all available factory opts.
No accidents
In Wisconsin.
According to a manager-friend we have at the dealership, this vehicle was purchased new for $28K, and was just traded last weekend. He says we could get it now for around $24K. Seem fair to you? How much do you suppose they've got in it?
Thanks in advance!
Your thoughts would be appreciated on the respective trade and retail value of a '95 Millenia L in excellent mechanical condition and very good body/interior condition. i.e. no food ever allowed in car and regularly detailed. Mileage only 37k. From what I'm seeing so far, trade is not the way to go with this car.
On to the 98. Silver is good, 63K on a 98 isnt as bad as 57K on a 99 but it also hurts it a bit. Still, I think that you ought to be able to get $9,500-10K or so wholesale. So ask $12,900 and I wouldnt take under $11,500 or so.
As a private seller I'd stress condition and highway miles (i.e. I have a 40 mile each wayt commute..) and also you'llhave these priced below most of the other ones on the market..
Hope this helps!
Bill
Hmm, Here in Florida (Where 70% of all 2WD RX300s are sold) its' a $26,000-26,500 or so vehicle on a wholesale level as you describe it. However, you're in CO with a FWD... I still wouldnt take less than $25,500. You may want to consider a private sale around $30K or so. KBB "retail" (haha) on your truck is like $33K...
Silver is good btw
Bill
I'd say $7K.. you'll be at the top of the wholesale market buyt a 95 Millenia is only worth so much.,. you know?
I'd be gutsy. Advertise it like this:
"1995 Mazda Millenia L. ABsolutely immaculate condition, One Owner, never eaten or smoked in. Probably the cleanest one out there. Only 37,000 pampered miles, flawless throughout. Must see this gorgeous car! Only $12,900 Call Tommy 407-123-4567"
On the retail side I'd shoot for $10K-10,500 but that car couldbreak the bank to the right buyer...Remember one thing about price: "you can always come down"
Bill
I'd try to be around $22-23K or so.
Bill
Toyota dealer wouldn't budge from $23K. He said he called 2 dealers in Arizona and the highest bid he got was $22.5K. Of course, he also said that in 7 years he had never taken an offer to the desk without a deposit.
I'm going to check the Mercury dealer tonight.
Boston area
71K miles
5 spd
Emerald Green Mica/Grey cloth
Cold weather pkg
CD changer
No sunroof
Very clean, but a few too many scratches and dings to rate "excellent". Is it worth it to do the bodywork myself pre-sale/trade, or to settle for a lower offer?