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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    OH, i didn't realize he had ordered a car.

    well, at least its a popular car with a wait list, right? so should be pretty easy to sell it.

    he is probably calling around now and finding out he won't be able to get one anywhere else. So he'll probably be back. I can't imagine anyone willing to drop that kind of money on a vehicle is going to stress so much about a couple of grand. I could be wrong.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • sandman46sandman46 Member Posts: 1,798
    My son got into Ann Arbor last month. Is it really that cold up there?

    The Sandman :)
  • squirreljamsquirreljam Member Posts: 71
    ...I can get for 2003 Nissan Altima 2.5 SL with all options (ABS, fogs, front and side bags and roof). Color is black on black, location St Louis MO, condition is clean, not exceptional. Mileage is 40,500. Sneakers are close to end of life, but still have some squiggly lines showing...

    It's coming off lease, purchase is $13,700 - worth flipping it to make a couple bucks?

    Many thanks,
    Squirrel
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... The miles are a tinge on the high side, but lowish for the year .. the color is fine for the area and it's got all the toys, but the sneaks are weak ....

    If you know the history and it's been serviced, it hasn't been run thru every $2.00 swirlomatic car wash in St Louis and the interior doesn't look like a storage facility for a Popeyes Chicken franchise .. then $13,700 is a great price .... most dealers will pay more than that at the auctions to get one .... depending on where you live and who you know, figure $250/$300ish for the new rounds things and that puts you at dead wholesale .... the bad thing about these are, they start breakin' down when they start to hit 120/150,000 miles, then you have to miss a day of golf to find another one ...

    Good luck and let me know ..........



    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .. **hi royce,description for 03 mazda protege es sedan is as follows:
    silver,auto,6diskcd-moonroof package,abs,front-side airbags,fog
    lights,rear spoiler,alloy wheels,
    19,000 miles,. ..this is a 1 owner car in mint condition.. steve ..**
    ====================================

    What am I missing...? .. $7,000..? .. has it been whacked smacked or cracked ....??

    These are pretty nice little drivers, I'm a little surprised the dealers in the area hit it so light .. especially with the super low miles and it being a loaded up ES with all the stuff, plus it's a good color ... loaded up LX's you can find, loaded up ES's are a rare bird on Collins avenue or even the streets of DC .... it's a $9 grand car, at least $8,5 even in Jim Moran territory ..... $7,000.?? .. you could drop it in the Herald tomorrow for $9,900 and get $9,500 in a nano second ...

    I must be missing something here ....

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Why don't you just show him the auction reports..? .. that should get his attention ...

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Sorry, I'm running out of time .... but I'll be back this afternoon ...

    Terry.
  • tmyertmyer Member Posts: 9
    Looking to buy in the very near future and am running out of time to find out info on "real" world trade value for our 2000 expedition.
    Have found so many different variations on what our Expedition is worth, could someone help me out?

    Here is the info:
    2000 Ford Eddie Bauer Expedition
    mileage: 80,009
    Color:Troubidour Red (maroon)/ with gold trim
    Is a 4x2 not 4x4, and has the the 4.6 L V-8 triton.
    Tan leather interior and is in very good shape, no tears, scratches or stains.
    Has 6 CD changer, with cassette and AM/FM
    power seats, windows and locks.
    Cruise and all the standard stuff for the EB edition, running boards, towing, alloys, heated mirrors, and auto dimming rearview mirror.
    Tires are a little over a year old and brake job done Spring 2005. Oil changed every 3000 miles. Had a new transmission put in at 34,000 miles due to a factory issue.
    the exterior is in good shape, no body work ever done on it, paint is glossy and has only minor scratches in a couple of places.
    The interior is in very good shape, clean with no stains, or problems with the leather.
    Mechanically, it is in good shape as well and we have taken good care of it with routine maintenance.
    By the way we live in SW Oklahoma in case that makes a difference.
    Thanks in advance for your help. :)
  • sunshinestatesunshinestate Member Posts: 5
    It has a lot of miles on it, almost 112,000, but otherwise it is in great condition. It is an XLS with the v-6 motor, power doors, locks, etc. I live in central florida. What do you think I could get trading it in?
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 33,736
    before terry comes back and sends you to your room (;)), list all the info again, and include if its 4wd or 2wd and the color of the vehicle.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • sunshinestatesunshinestate Member Posts: 5
    Location: Orlando, Florida
    Year/Make/Model: 2001 Ford Escape
    Body Style: XLS 2wd 4 dr
    Engine: 6 cylinder
    Mileage: 112,000
    Color: [exterior/interior]
    Condition:
    No dings, scratches on the exterior. Paint is in very good shape. No tears, stains or rips on the interior Tires - 25% worn
    Brakes: good
    Maintenance: well maintained
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    That is a beautiful color SUNSHINESTATE ! I bet you had to pay extra for that special blend of paint! :P

    Mark
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • sunnyflasunnyfla Member Posts: 1
    Whatever! I have two small children and a full time job so forgive me for now being perfect. ;)
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Bret,

    I hit the Ranger right around the $8k mark.. maybe a tad more. If I know you it's pretty darn clean.

    I think the GMC oughta pull around $12,800-13,300 or so.. but.. is it Blue perchance? If so they paid $13,900+++ for it in Nashville.

    Terry knows Trucks better than I tho. Sorry but I thought I responded to you before. Dad passed away back in May.. I shut DAG down. Also sold off my share of Nissanville.. now back up north in Lamboland.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    My husband and I are looking to get away from the SUV and are starting to look at mini vans, due to the kids.

    Have found so many different variations on what our Expedition is worth, could someone help me out?

    Here is the info:
    2000 Ford Eddie Bauer Expedition
    mileage: 80,009
    Color:Troubidour Red (maroon)/ with gold trim
    Is a 4x2 not 4x4, and has the the 4.6 L V-8 triton.
    Tan leather interior and is in very good shape, no tears, scratches or stains.
    Has 6 CD changer, with cassette and AM/FM
    power seats, windows and locks.
    Cruise and all the standard stuff for the EB edition, running boards, towing, alloys, heated mirrors, and auto dimming rearview mirror.
    Tires are a little over a year old and brake job done Spring 2005. Oil changed every 3000 miles. Had a new transmission put in at 34,000 miles due to a factory issue.
    the exterior is in good shape, no body work ever done on it, paint is glossy and has only minor scratches in a couple of places.
    The interior is in very good shape, clean with no stains, or problems with the leather.
    Mechanically, it is in good shape as well and we have taken good care of it with routine maintenance.
    By the way we live in SW Oklahoma in case that makes a difference.
    Thanks in advance for your help.


    Good description but I see no mention of rear air or 3rd seat. I'll assume it has it, if it does not, it's value punishment time.

    So it's got a big clock, it's burgandy which is no great help, it's 2WD which.. well, it's Winter and it can snow where you live I think... and, well, that's no help. 4.6L is no help here either.

    Real high 8000s, maybe 9200.. that's the end of the earth. I really think it's an $8700 truck.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Location: Orlando, Florida
    Year/Make/Model: 2001 Ford Escape
    Body Style: XLS 2wd 4 dr
    Engine: 6 cylinder
    Mileage: 112,000
    Color: [exterior/interior]
    Condition:
    No dings, scratches on the exterior. Paint is in very good shape. No tears, stains or rips on the interior Tires - 25% worn
    Brakes: good
    Maintenance: well maintained


    Wow, that's a lot of miles. No idea what color it is so it's Sandalwood or something inoffensive.

    Me say $3700. I think you could possibly get a few bucks more, but that's a really big clock.. and it's strictly a wholesale piece for any new car store, so it's whatever the wholesalers will pay.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    2002 Rangey...

    Sounds like a nice truck. Nice because it's not in my inventory.

    Out of warranty this thing is worth, IMO, $19,500.

    In Warranty I think you're safe if you can certify it..etc up to $21k.. on a push.

    Lemme guess, it's in NADA for $26,500 trade-in or something outrageous like that, right? Don't you have a green book on hand silly?
  • bretfrazbretfraz Member Posts: 2,021
    Hey Bill,

    I'm very sorry to hear about your dad. He was a great guy and I really enjoyed talking with him.

    Sounds like your back up in Bergen permanently. Can't blame ya, it very nice up there. A couple years ago I was in Allendale for a NASCAR-related promotion and really liked it there. Very homey yet upscale, like the motto of the area could be, "We like a small town feel and we're rich enough to keep it that way".

    About the GMC, its a metallic red they call Sport Red. Not quite a maroon but not nearly as bright as your typical red. If I could have found a metallic blue Sierra with the equipt I want when I was ready to buy, that would have been my color.

    The Ranger belongs to a female friend who wants to trade in for a Sport Trac. I've kept an eye on the maintenance and kept it clean so its in really nice condition, not beat at all.

    Keep in touch. If I'm up that way I'll stop in, it would be great to see ya.

    - - Bret - -
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..**Yo Terry! Can ya hook me up, puh - leeeeeze?

    --------------------------------------------------

    I want to get an idea of trade in pricing on two trucks:
    Truck #1 -
    2002 Ford Ranger XLT extended cab
    2WD
    3.0L V6 + automatic
    White with dk. grey cloth interior
    Chrome OEM wheels
    New Tires
    47K miles
    AM FM CD
    Your typical power goodies
    throw in bed liner
    Needs front brakes
    No accidents, only a couple small dings and scratches (typical for a 4 yr old truck)
    In Metro Atlanta
    Truck #2 -
    2004 GMC Sierra 1500
    Std cab, short bed
    2WD
    41K miles
    5.3L V8 with automatic
    Metallic red with grey cloth interior
    Every option available (OnStar, XM Satellite Radio, steering wheel audio controls, dual zone climate, fancy mirrors, you name it, it has it)
    New 17" wheels and tires
    Towing pkg (never used)
    Paint very nice but has a few rock chips in the hood and a total of two door dings)
    Maintained to perfection
    In Metro Atlanta
    Thanks for everything!!!
    ====================================

    In the land of Michael Vick -- has anyone seen his brother lately.? ..l.o.l...

    It's an 02 Ranger 2wd XLT Ecab with 41k .... it's the V6, we got the auto, we have a little bedliner action, good color for the area, new skins, some chromee's and you feel it's a typical 4 year old truck with no visits to Maaco .... trade side, in and around the mid/tall $8's, maybe the low $9's ..

    The Sierra seems to be loaded up .. so it "could" be a base standard that was ordered with a power pack upgrade as a price leader or it "could" be an SLE with the leather deduct ........ big difference in value, so let me know ..



    Terry.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    We put 20 on it and the guy wants 26,500 which is about what we would ask for the truck on the retail side and is pretty much right on what he says KBB says. Of course KBB does not really say that any where no one says that any where he just has this imaginary number in his head so I am getting all the info I can to shoot it down.
  • bretfrazbretfraz Member Posts: 2,021
    I hate it when I leave out critical info :mad:

    Sorry.

    It's a Sierra 1500 SLE, standard cab, short bed, 2WD. No leather was available in this style. About the only option it doesn't have is bucket seats with a center console (like you see in Tahoes and Yukons). It's the the split bench with the big fold-down arm rest. Sticker on this thing was just over $29K, pricey for a std cab 2WD.
  • mark156mark156 Member Posts: 1,915
    I guess SUNSHINESTATE and SUNNYFLA are the same person but she still didn't say what color the little Ford Escape was. She DID have the time tell me she has two kids.... but, she not selling the kids, she trying to sell an Escape with no color!

    Good luck Sunny!

    Mark :P
    2010 Land Rover LR4, 2013 Honda CR-V, 2009 Bentley GTC, 1990 MB 500SL, 2001 MB S500, 2007 Lincoln TC, 1964 RR Silver Cloud III, 1995 MB E320 Cab., 2015 Prevost Liberty Coach
  • manamalmanamal Member Posts: 426
    I guess SUNSHINESTATE and SUNNYFLA are the same person but she still didn't say what color the little Ford Escape was. She DID have the time tell me she has two kids.... but, she not selling the kids, she trying to sell an Escape with no color!

    So how much for the transparent escape?
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    This guy must be looking at a $35-$40K loss for owning a Range Rover for 4 years. (For that kind of money, he could buy a new MDX or 4Runner Ltd every 4 years & then throw it out). By definition, he's irrational: buying his 2nd Land Rover.....
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    ...I saw a RWD Volvo wagon (940 or 960, I think) with the 'Brentwood Volvo' tag on the back, cracked me up. Is that in St. Louis? I'm in Chicago, not terribly unusual to see St. Louis cars here (usually Audis from Plaza Motors), but still.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .. **that has completely and totally unrealistic idea of their trade in value. I have tried showing this guy that what he wants for the car is what dealers are asking for them and he still thinks we are robbing him.**
    ===============================



    Why don't you show him the current auction reports and get over this hurdle ...?


    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... .... You could get the leather option in an SLE, you could even get leather in the base model, but you couldn't get the 5.3 V8 - go figure ....

    This one is a short bed (kinda rare) 41k SLE 2WD with the power seat ... it's the 5.3 V8, auto, it's that Carmine reddish maroonish color like they used in the Caddy's - we got the grey cloth so the combo is right, the miles are a little on the tallish side, tow pack, wheels, new rubber and it has all the stuff ........................... *~depending~* on the dealer .. trade side, in and around the super tall $12's low/mid $13's, might "maybe" find a dealer to wander into the strong $13's because of the "short bed" and the big motor ....

    The hard part is trying to find a Yota or a Bimmer dealer that even knows what it's worth, because short beds sell and are hard to find .... depending on the sales tax difference I might try a run down Retail Rd first .. ya know the drill by now, finish any service, super detail, get some super pics and a Donald Trump Ad in the Hotlanta paper and their online deal, then: $16,495 *asking* and cut and snip at $15/$15,9 .....

    Good luck and let me know ....



    Terry.
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    "
    Why don't you show him the current auction reports and get over this hurdle ...?

    ==============================================================
    I have and he just does not belive me. The deal is pretty much dead at this point but I have learned a valuable lesson not to help people when they ask about selling their own car privately. I have helped a couple of people in the past who had ordered a car and since they had time were going to sell their trade in privately to get more money for it. I printed up some nice window stickers for them to use listing all of their cars options, gave them some literature about the vehicle if I had some old brocures or someting and gave them advice on where I would start asking for and at what price I would let the vehicle go.

    I am not ever going to do that again because of this guy's sellective memory. I told him ask 29k or so for it but I would take anything north of 26k. Now that 26k has become what his trade was worth three months ago which is insane since no one gave him a trade value three months ago. His car was three months away and he was planning on selling it on his own. :mad:

    Anyway not matter at this poinst someone else will buy his car I am glad I held off in his accesories though.

    ----------------------------------------------------------
    "This guy must be looking at a $35-$40K loss for owning a Range Rover for 4 years. (For that kind of money, he could buy a new MDX or 4Runner Ltd every 4 years & then throw it out). By definition, he's irrational: buying his 2nd Land Rover....."

    =========================================================

    Yes third actually and this was a westminster edition Range. 2002 Range Rovers had a MSRP of $68,000 but Westminister's had a MSRP of $75,000 and they only made 300. So we are talking a 73% loss of value in four years ouch. :cry:

    Now he did not buy this new he is actually the second owner. He bought it when it had 10k miles or so.
  • imariquinnimariquinn Member Posts: 96
    At lease end, already had lease end inspection.

    Location: Sarasota, FL
    Year/Make/Model: 2003 VW Golf GL (non turbo)
    Body Style: 2 door
    Engine: 4 cylinder, auto
    Driveline:
    Mileage: 25,000
    Color: Silver ext, Blk int
    Major Options: CD, AC
    Condition:
    Clean, no door dings, couple of hood rock chips
    Tires - 50% worn
    Brakes - fine
    Maintenance - all up to date
    Other: None, one of the cleanest cars per inspection.

    Looking to sell by owner, but may trade up to ?
  • mirthmirth Member Posts: 1,212
    Terry, a friend of mine is upsizing to an SUV looking for trade-in and retail values for his current car:

    Location : Detroit, MI
    Year/Make/Model: 2001/Nissan/Altima GXE
    Body Style: 4dr
    Engine: 2.4L, 4cyl, Automatic
    Driveline:FWD
    Mielage:38000
    Color: Gold/Beige
    Major Options: Power Seat ( Driver) , Single CD, Power Locks, Cruise Control, Dual Front air bags, Power windows
    Condition:Excellent
    Tires: Never changed
    Brakes: Good condition
    Maintenance: Regularly done through dealer
  • lmp180psulmp180psu Member Posts: 399
    Hi Terry - long time, no post :) I am thinking of trading in my 2004 Mazda3 sedan for a 2006 Mazda3 hatch in the next month or two. I just got the inspection/emissions done, and it passed, but the dealer said the tires will need to be replaced soon. Do you think it is worth spending $500-600 for new tires, or just trade it in with the worn tires? I am thinking new tires, but I want your expertise :) Also, what kind of trade-in amount do you think I could get?

    Thanks again!!

    Location: Carlisle PA
    Year/Make/Model: 2004 Mazda 3
    Body Style: 4 door sedan
    Engine: 2.3 liter 4 cylinder Auto
    Driveline: FWD
    Mileage: 27000
    Color: Sunlight Silver exterior, Black/red cloth interior
    Major Options: Sport Package (17" wheels/tires, side sills), ABS/SAB/SAC pkg., Xenon/TPMS package, 6CD changer/moonroof
    Condition:
    Interior is in excellent condition, passenger and back seats have been barely sat in :), Exterior is in very good condition. A couple slight scratches on the trunk from my mom's purse :( Hope these will come out with some rubbing compound.
    Tires - Need to be replaced soon (see comments above)
    Brakes - very good life left
    Maintenance - all maintenance done at dealer, use synthetic oil.
    Other: Did have to get rear bumper replaced, from a slight fender bender (bump at a stop light...hit where it was tough to repair well.). Paint matches perfectly. Should I tell the dealer ;)
  • tmyertmyer Member Posts: 9
    Sorry- yeah it does have third row seat and rear heat/ac...
    but thanks alot for the value....your estimate was right in the middle of all the different values we have been getting and really helped us out.
    Thanks again :)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Welcome to the car biz ..l.o.l...

    You can't let things like this bother you, $20 large is all the money .. you're always going to find a customer or two (or 3 or 10) that think their trade is worth more than it really is, it's common ...

    Do you think everyone that reads RWTIV's believes what I print.? .. heck no.!! ..l.o.l...

    They see that number and then they get that "dead mullet look" on their face and then start punching keys til' they get to a site or a forum that agree's with them -- and that my friend is called the rule of 21's -- they talk to 21 people until "somebody" agree's with them .....

    In the meantime, they've spent 3 weeks and visited 3 different dealerships and they find out the original figure was right .. and the *last* dealership is usually the dealership they end up buying from - (after you did all the work 3 weeks ago) .. it's common and it happens every minute of everyday, folks don't want to be educated, they just want to be right ... just look at the Mayor of New Orleans ..l.o.l...

    I've posted this before, but unless you're a golfer you might not appreciate the analogy .... I have a friend that has a few large golf stores and you'd be amazed at the conversations that go on in those stores .. all you have to do is "delete" the word "golf" and put in the word "car" and you'd swear your in a car dealership ... I've been using a particular Maxfli golf ball for a long time now and most won't use it it because it doesn't say Callaway or Titleist on it .. in the meantime, it was just ranked the top 3 ball you can buy in Golf Digest, now you can't find one between Miami and Massachusetts - go figure.

    .. Never lose your sense of humor .. remember ~ next time you're going to be the 3rd store in the rotation of life ...



    Terry :P
  • ckigginsckiggins Member Posts: 68
    Brentwood Volvo is in St. Louis.
  • ckigginsckiggins Member Posts: 68
    Looking to get rid of my Acura RSX to trade-up for a 2006 TL. Here's the scoop on my trade...what do ya think?

    Location: St. Louis, MO
    Year/Make/Model: 2002 Acura RSX (base)
    Body Style: 3dr hatch
    Engine: 4cyl auto
    Driveline: FWD
    Mileage: 28900 (low!)
    Color: Desert Silver/Titanium Cloth
    Major Options: All standard options (sun roof, etc)
    Condition:
    Interior in excellent condition (no holes, rips, stains; carpet is perfect due to having all-weather mats installed); outside has a fairly large scratch (down to the black plastic) on rear bumper cover; couple of small dings on the sheet metal due to stray shopping carts or doors. Otherwise, great condition, paint is all still perfect.
    Tires - Probably 30% worn. Original OEM rubber.
    Brakes: New rear pads 11/05, new front pads 3/05
    Maintenance: Regular oil changes, warranty work. Did not do the 20k schedule because they wanted $400 to rotate the tires and check fluid levels. NO THANKS! All maintenance has been done at dealer I purchased from (and would purchase the TL from)

    Other: Only insurance claim was a windshield repair (stone chip).
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    we would like to get a private party value for our 03 Acura MDX.

    Location: Metro Atlanta
    Year/Make/Model: 2003 Acura MDX Touring
    Body Style: SUV
    Engine: 3.5 liter
    Driveline: AWD
    Mileage: 61,000
    Color: Sage Brush Pearl exterior (kinda grayish) with Quartz interior (dark gray dash with light gray seats and door inserts.
    Major Options: Navigation, AWD, roof, leather, memory seats, heated seats, climate control. Wood grain upgrades on the shifter, steering wheel, and dash.
    Condition: Consistent with age and mileage. There are a couple of minor "fingernail" scratches on the exterior. The interior is in excellent condition and could pass for a 2005 with 10,000 miles. Non-smoker. No stains, rips, or tears in the leather or carpet.
    Tires: About 10,000 miles left on the tread.
    Brakes: Fine.
    Maintenance: 60,000 mile service was done @ 57,000 miles about 2 months ago.
    Other: Right fender was repainted. Does not show up on Autocheck or Carfax. Invisible to the naked eye. Runs and drives great. No mechanical problems.

    We are thinking of selling this to upgrade to a MDX with DVD & Nav or just selling it and pocketing the cash. What's a fair asking price?
  • qwallsqwalls Member Posts: 406
    I finally got caught up on the hundreds of messages I was behind.

    I’ve had the ’94 Legend for about a year now, and I still enjoy driving it, but maintenance is costing a bit more than I anticipated. Premium gas doesn’t help either. The discussion here about old luxury cars was dead on. They look nice, but are expensive.

    So, this is what I’m looking for:

    A daily driver I won’t mind being seen in.
    Decent gas mileage
    Ability to seat 4 six-footers (I drive a lot at lunch) :-)
    Semi-fun to drive, adequate power
    Reliable
    Good road car
    Not overly expensive to maintain

    The Legend fits the bill except for the gas mileage and cost to maintain.
    The ’96 Avalon that Mathias’s friend bought last year would have been fine if it wasn’t so boring.

    OK car experts, any thoughts? I haven’t really decided on a budget yet, but let’s say $5-8k. The alternative is to keep driving the Legend until another major repair comes up, and I may do that, but at 162k miles, it doesn’t seem to be quite as reliable as previous Accords have been.

    Thinking about maybe an older Accord, or maybe a 626, Galant, or Maxima?

    Oh, Terry – I still love the TL. :-)

    Q
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    Given your criteria I would vote for a 98-00 Accord LX or EX. The Maxima would be my second choice but wouldn't get the gas mileage of the Accord and it has a rear axle but it has more power and a little more room. Between the 626 and Galant ... I'd pick the Accord or Maxima.

    What about a 93-95 Acura Vigor or a 96-98 TL? Still more luxurious than the Accord or Maxima. Interior room will be comparable to the Accord but less than the Maxima.
  • qwallsqwalls Member Posts: 406
    Thanks for the reply. Another Accord is probably my top pick right now just because I've had good luck with them in the past. I am a little concerned with reported transmission failures with those models. If I were going to go with one of the Acuras you mentioned, I'd probably just keep what I have. I like the looks of the Legend better, the Vigor is too small (back seat), and maintenance will probably be just as high. I appreciate the feedback.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,272
    When I read your message, the first thought I had was "Acura TL." Oh, wait, you already have one of those! I think the 626 has less room than the Accord or TL. The Maxima would have more room and would still probably have bulletproof reliability.

    Also, from what I hear, the 626 4-cylinder automatics have quite a few transmission failures, although my friend who has owned one for 80,000 miles (and no fluid changes) has not had hers fail yet.
  • jimbresjimbres Member Posts: 2,025

    I’ve had the ’94 Legend for about a year now, and I still enjoy driving it, but maintenance is costing a bit more than I anticipated.


    How much is a "bit"?
  • qwallsqwalls Member Posts: 406
    In the past year:

    horn button (minor) :-)
    brakes all around, new rotors in back
    inner tie rod
    tires
    heater blower motor
    master cylinder
    upper ball joint
    just got it out of the shop for a speed sensor
    and I'm only 18k miles away from the timing belt, water pump, etc.

    about $2500 not counting the oil changes, transmission and coolant flushes, etc.

    I've had it almost exactly a year. Bought it with 138k miles, and it has 162k now.

    Corvette - thanks for your response.
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,272
    You're welcome!

    The costs are about what you'd pay on a late-model Volkswagen after the warranty period.
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Member Posts: 3,802
    I would probably go with the Maxima Or maybe an I30. Slightly nicer interior than a Maxima. You might also want to consider a later model Altima. Maybe a 98-00 SE model?

    OTOH, most of the items you have repaired on the Legend are normal wear items for an 11 year old car. You've already put a bit of money into it so maybe you should drive it a bit longer. Driving an older car on a daily basis can get expensive if you want it to be in perfect driving condition.

    Maybe you should just get an inexpensive daily driver (less than $2500) and drive the TL more.
  • daveinatlantdaveinatlant Member Posts: 1
    Hey Bill - haven't seen your posts in the Jag area for YEARS - but you knew a ton about them back then - so here goes:
    Atlanta Metro
    1996 Jaguar XJ6
    4.0 Litre straight six, RWD
    111,000 miles
    Black with Coffee interior
    All the usual Jaguar toys
    Good condition - shines pretty, drives well
    Tires have less than 10K on them
    Only known issue is droopy headliner (Jag...)
    These cars lose value measured in minutes...
    Looking to replace with a 2000 - 2001 XK8 or maybe an XJR
    Bill - got any good sources for my NEXT Jag? You used to be the world's expert for finding good used ones.
    Dave
  • catamcatam Member Posts: 331
    Looking to trade an 04 Accord on an 06 Odyssey.

    Loc: SLC, UT
    2004 Honda Accord
    4 Dr, EX with leather
    2.4L 4 cyl, auto
    FWD
    25,500 miles
    Silver/ Black leather
    Clean condition, few minor cosmetic scratches
    No insurance claims
    I appreciate any info you guys can give on trade value.

    Thanks, Catam
  • british_roverbritish_rover Member Posts: 8,502
    We had a customer who was considering trading in their I think 2002 XJR with about 30k on it for a Range Rover. We offered them 19,500 to 21,000 tops a couple of months ago in CT in the winter.
  • woodywwwoodyww Member Posts: 1,806
    That's a lot of $$ to maintain a car for one year. For that kind of budget, you could maintain a 10 y.o. bmw 7 series. Probably.

    You were saying a $6K budget? What about a Volvo 850? or older bmw 3-series E-36? Not super-cheap cars to maintain, but I don't hear of many people paying $2500 a year for repairs for either. I had a friend who bought a '91 4 cyl 3 series. I think he had to have one thing repaired--the sunroof--in about a year.

    *about $2500 not counting the oil changes, transmission and coolant flushes, etc*
  • corvettecorvette Member Posts: 11,272
    I thought of that, but I think an Altima, prior to 2002, would be kind of cramped for six-footers. One of my friends has one, and the old one was not much larger inside than a Jetta.

    woody,

    Glad to hear that someone thinks $2000 per year is above the normal range for repairs on a European car. It wasn't just the money, but combined with the constant trips to the mechanic, and shaken confidence in the car itself, it kind of got to me. I hope I never get to have that kind of experience again!

    On the other hand, I think one could expect some major, expensive repairs on a 7-series by the time it hits the ten-year mark, if not before.
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