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What the heck does all that mean, are they puttin' Saturn fenders on the MDX's now ..l.o.l....?
"Lets just say" .... the guy was at Wally World and a blue hair skimmed the front fender a little and it was a $700 paint and blend ..
They might have paid the low/mid $25ish range for it cuz' the color combo is nice for the area and the miles ain't outa whack, maybe got goofy and dropped the tall $25's in it after all that eggnog, maybe .... probably hits the table at in and around the mid $26ish range .. I didn't see the buy it now price, but their probably lookin' to get the super strong $28's out of it .. it all depends on the repair and what they see ........ me personally I'd shoot the detailer and the camera guy because if you look at the passenger side rear interior shot, they didn't even take the time to evenly put the "armor all" junk on the year drivers seat and smeared all that cheap [non-permissible content removed] on the wood trim ...
It will all depend on what the used car guy see's and what the Elco says .. it could be worth more, it could be worth less ...
Terry.
Terry.
If the motor don't fit - you can't convict .......!
Terry.
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I want to get an idea of trade in pricing on two trucks:
Truck #1 -
2002 Ford Ranger XLT extended cab
2WD
3.0L V6 + automatic
White with dk. grey cloth interior
Chrome OEM wheels
New Tires
47K miles
AM FM CD
Your typical power goodies
throw in bed liner
Needs front brakes
No accidents, only a couple small dings and scratches (typical for a 4 yr old truck)
In Metro Atlanta
Truck #2 -
2004 GMC Sierra 1500
Std cab, short bed
2WD
41K miles
5.3L V8 with automatic
Metallic red with grey cloth interior
Every option available (OnStar, XM Satellite Radio, steering wheel audio controls, dual zone climate, fancy mirrors, you name it, it has it)
New 17" wheels and tires
Towing pkg (never used)
Paint very nice but has a few rock chips in the hood and a total of two door dings)
Maintained to perfection
In Metro Atlanta
Thanks for everything!!!
2004 TSX in Denver
32,000 miles
Meteor Silver/Gray Leather
6 speed manual
No Navigation
OEM Spoiler
Everything else standard on the TSX (power seat, sunroof, 6 CD, etc.)
Nice condition - might need some new tires in 5k miles or so.
The BMW salesperson thought trade would be around $19k. He was basing that on looking on some auction site. But, that's just the salesperson talking - no firm quote. Given tax savings here in Denver (8.1% for me), that actually works out pretty well.
What would you recommend putting it in the paper at, and what should I let it go for?
Thanks!
2024 Audi Q8 e-tron - 2017 911 C4S - 2025 BRZ - 2023 A6 Allroad - 2024 Genesis GV60 - 2019 Cayman
The car has been detailed. I have numerous photos of the car and the longest, most detailed description of it in my ad out of all the other CRVs I've seen for sale in my area.
I'm getting laughed at on a daily basis. I've had dozens of calls and everyone is telling me the price is too high. Not one person has been willing to even think about a price over $10k. When I say I'm not budging on price, they never contact me again. Yes, car dealers are selling them for much more, but they also offer warranties in most cases.
I really don't know what else to do.
HA! Snort ... chortle ... guffaw. Next time, my foot.
It's awfully presumptuous to buy somebody a car for Christmas, so I knew I was taking a risk. But this was in addition to his SUV, which he does need regularly for towing/hauling his Scout troop. Apparantly what I misjudged was not how much he'd love to have another Mustang but how much he's truly sick of that SUV. Since he can't have two new (to him) vehicles, he'd rather get something smaller than the Suburban that can still tow and forgo the Mustang.
Whatever. Just want him to have a car he likes. My original question on the Dealer thread was in response to how much a shop puts into reconditioning a car for re-sale. I was curious how big of a hit I'd take in that area considering it's actually in better shape now than when I bought it. I know I should do private sale, but I'm lazy, so Terry said post here for the trade-in value and then I can decide.
So ... reposting:
2003 Mustang GT convertible
Atlanta, GA
Automatic RWD
Mileage: 15,818
Color: black int/ext/top
Major Options: leather seats, am/fm/cd, dual airbag, keyless entry, traction control, rear spoiler
Condition: good
Purchased from Ford dealer at 15,772. One prior owner. Independent inspection prior to purchase showed no prior frame damage, a rear pinion seal leak, which the dealer fixed under warrantly, and a poorly-repainted, quarter-sized chip on the hood. I had the hood professionally repainted, and it's been garaged since purchase except for the 42 additional miles.
Tires/brakes are listed as "average" on the inspection report.
The same thing happens with the housing market this time of year. It's mostly junk houses being chased by folks with yard sale budgets. It sounds like you have a quality vehicle but there aren't any quality buyers. The "fact" that you are getting laughed at every day is proof; the bottom-dwellers are trying to con you into dropping your price so they can steal your CRV, but you aren't that stupid so they're letting you know. Now you know.
Keep in mind that Terry's info is general in nature. He has not personally appraised your vehicle. He has not conducted a market analysis of mini-SUV's in the NC Triad area. He has not created a 90-day matrix of the asking and selling prices of Honda CRV's in your area.
There are people who want a well-cared for vehicle. They have money and if you are reasonably price competitive, you will get your price. But it takes patience and you've been trying to sell during a difficult time of year. If you need to dump it, then dump it. But try to hang in there if you can. I'm sure it'll work out just fine.
supposedly in excellent condition.
my wife has a client who wants to sell it this weekend, (got a new lexus for x-mas)
she was asking $6K, but is flexible...
private sale avg between Edmunds, kelly and NADA is about $4K
any thoughts
(I have seen two 1998 Volvo S90's on craigslist, with 100,000 and 125,000 miles, both asking around $6K...is this the better car/deal?)
Thanks in advance for everyone's input
Took the car to Carmax they appraised it at $17,000. Called the local Saturn dealer where we purchased, he offered to buy it at $17,200...done deal! Thanks for all the help Terry!
Has the timing belt been replaced yet? When was the last tuneup? How about the transmission service? Are the tires in decent shape? Anything leaking? All electrical items in working order?
personally, i'd go with a '98 S70, but I am biased.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
960, not 940
with 81,000 miles
Any change in opinion of this model?
Thanks
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
1997 Chevrolet Cavalier
2 dr std coupe
4 cyl manual engine
approx. 97,000 miles
green exterior/grey/black mix interior
some dings on the exterior, vehicle has been lowered, after market rims and tires (about 8,000 left on tires), interior is okay, full custom stereo system cd player w/flip face, no insurance claim, only one owner. :confuse:
Given that it has tons of value lowering aftermarket crap on it, a dealer is probably not even going to want it. Maybe a few hundred dollars at a regular dealership.
You might be able to get a quick $2000-$2500 for it if you can get good exposure in the right neighborhood where there is some demand for a non-rice-burner domestic modified piece of transportation.
Thanks for the update ....
Terry.
I'm getting laughed at on a daily basis. I've had dozens of calls and everyone is telling me the price is too high. Not one person has been willing to even think about a price over $10k. When I say I'm not budging on price, they never contact me again. Yes, car dealers are selling them for much more, but they also offer ....**
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Warranties help but they don't guarantee a sale ...
I went aaaall the way back and read the original post that's dated Nov 3rd(?) ... so we're like 2 months+ out on this hunting expedition ...
IF ~ it's still clean, it doesn't look like it's been sittin' since Jesus was a baby, you've been wiping it down and blacking the tires and keeping the interior fresh and nice (which is hard to do on a daily basis) .. then it might have something to do with a different type of presentation ...
>>""When I say I'm not budging on price..""
I'll take a wild guess and say this is on the phone, right..?
When you go to sell *anything* cars, boats, ex-wives, houses, girl scout cookies .. folks always want to think they got a deal, so they try to negotiate - it's the human part of life .. but unless they're actually in front of the product, then everything is just verbiage .. folks will say anything on the phone: "my brother paid $6 grand less" .. "the dealer down the street has 3 of them with lower miles for much less" .. in the meantime, your lookin' at the Ad and they're $2 grand more .l.o.l.. but never debate it on the phone.! .. both people get alienated and both lose .. false pride, it's very expensive.
so when someone says: "are you negotiable.?" ..
reply: "yes sir, everything in life is negotiable, just ask my ex-wife .. you need to look at it, so what time are you coming over.?" ...
so when someone says: "Whats your best price .."
reply: "my best price is "your" best offer .. and since you haven't seen it yet you can't make a clear choice til' you see it .. so what time are you coming over.?".."
so when someone says: "well, the books say it's worth ..."
reply: "you could be right, I just based it on current values, but you haven't seen it yet and I'm negotiable .. so what time are you coming over.?" .."
so when someone says: "2 dealers have it for less money than you .."
reply: "you could be right .. all I know is I gotta sell it cuz' the ol' lady is getting crabby and you know what that's like .. you need to look at it, so what time are you coming over.?"
Like I tell my salesmen .. unless you have a customer in front of you, you're unemployed ... as with you, you need to get them to look at the vehicle, then you can say yes or no to an offer ~ and they can't make a real offer unless they are there ..... long phone debates are only good for finding a restaurant for Saturday night ..l.o.l...
It's not what you say .. it's how it's said.
Terry.
PS: somebody somewhere is paying all the money for those stupid little CRV's:
12/14/2005 BUTLER $ 11,000 40,798 A SILVER 4G A X NE
01/10/2006 SKYLINE $ 9,300 54,390 A BLACK 4G A X NE
12/30/2005 MANHEIM $ 9,700 56,375 A BLUE 4G A X NE
12/22/2005 GTR TMPA $ 9,200 59,577 A GREEN 4G A X SE
12/19/2005 AYCOCK $ 7,700 68,420 A RED 4G O X SE
01/04/2006 BAY CITI $ 9,800 68,847 A BLACK 4G A X WC
12/22/2005 GTR PHNX $ 9,500 69,254 A GREEN 4G A X WC
12/22/2005 GTR PHNX $ 9,300 69,967 A BLACK 4G A X WC
12/13/2005 AMERICAN $ 8,300 73,878 A BLACK 4G O X NE
12/21/2005 HRSNBURG $ 6,900 80,144 A BLUE 4G A X NE
01/04/2006 KC $ 5,600 120,928 A GREEN 4G A X MW
12/20/2005 IMPERIAL $ 8,200 122,917 A BLUE 4G A SE
12/14/2005 SAN ANTO $ 5,700 135,053 A GREEN 4G A X SW
I'm getting laughed at on a daily basis. I've had dozens of calls and everyone is telling me the price is too high. Not one person has been willing to even think about a price over $10k. When I say I'm not budging on price, they never contact me again. Yes, car dealers are selling them for much more, but they also offer ....**
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Geesh, this was a timely post. I picked up an "Auto Locator" (kind of like the Auto Trader) magazine at the local Sheetz this morning and I was flippin' though it and 2 CRV's caught my eye...both 2000 models!
Autoventures in York PA has a 2000 CRV AWD, 2.0L, Silver, 55K miles for $11,6.
William Wessels dealership in Dillsburg PA has a 2000, 5spd, AWD, 47K miles for $10,9.
And those are the advertised prices! I'd think a little horse trading here and there, a little whining, and you might get em' a bit cheaper maybe...
I have to agree with Terry, maybe it's not so much your price as your "I'M NOT NEGOTIATING, PERIOD" response when folks call you on the phone. A little bit of wit, humor, and a willingness to say "surrrre...I'm negotiable!" goes a long way with a potential buyer.
A friend of mine sold that one at Imperial.. not a very nice truck either if I recall (Pat from Val U Car in Gainesville fi you know him)
I got one for you to put a # on.. hehehe.
03 Murcielago 4500 miles.. black/black 6-speed, perfect. :P
Even on cars that we do NOT discount at all (Gallardo Spyders) and that people do not expect a discount on, I still do things.. maybe I'll detail their other car, maybe they get a few accessories, maybe I put a battery tender in the car, maybe I have it delivered to their house 60 miles away. It's not even the money, it's the idea that whoever is buying the Honda/Chevrolet/Toyota/BMW/Lamborghini got it on their terms and that they had control over the sale, whether real or perceived.
THose S90s are nice cars tho.. watch for typical nonsense electrical problems.
My residual on my lease agreement is about 25,000+. What does this information tell me? They obviously care about condition of a vehicle that is turned in, but I assume those dents won't lower the cost for me!
Any more advice/coaching before I make that call?
Carolyn
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
PS I agree with others who say not to sound inflexible on the phone. And selling a car yourself can be about as much fun as root canal.....in fact, I'd just assume that.
That's one of the funniest things in the used-car business. Someone starts out slightly overpriced, then sits on it for a month or two, and now they are somewhat overpriced. Then they reduce the price some, but only enough so that they are only somewhat overpriced again, rather than correctly priced.
Wash rinse repeat. And the car never sells, or they feel that they are getting taken for a ride.
Don't know if that's what you've done with your CRV, but as time goes on, your car is depreciating. So maybe you should switch to being negotiable.
From my experience (And I am not sure how yours has been)I would send the car back and pay the mileage. I would not want to own a T6 out of warranty myself. An extended warranty can be very expensive and these cars can be prone to huge repair bills.
In other words.. go get a new V8.
Your car is worth, without the bicycle smackage, about $24k wholesale. I'd punish it $1,500 or so without seeing the damage to stay a bit safe.. so figure as a trade as-is, $22,500 and if it's fixed and clean, $27k retail. Volvo Certified this guy should pull $30k or so.
So is the buyout price reasonable? Sure is if you had (I assume) 45k on it at lease end. That's how ya gotta look at it.. they aren't gonna negotiate you down because you needed more miles.
What are you asking--I don't remember? (I don't remember what I had for breakfast yesterday). If no one will pay over $10K, well, "start" at $9995. The thing is, every used car shopper is an internet genius now, & esp. when they're dealing with private sellers, only want to pay the "trade in" price listed on Edmunds, if that. I'd start getting real flexible, down into the low-mid $9K's, if you need the $$, & don't need the vehicle.
2000 Daewoo : Nubira
Starting bid: US $13,100.00
I emailed them a couple of days ago asking about the obvious mistake in starting bid price and have not received any response back yet.
:sick: I need a new drug. I think this person, seanhartman11, might just have the one I need.
And if he doesn't sell it quickly it's on its way to Barrett-Jackson this weekend.
Thanks for your help.
Mike
my question is actually legit, they sell some other brands i'm interested in.
i know it is a tough question. how about some different scenarios? gas is 2.00, 3.50, 5.00 per gallon.
No heavy pressure or attempts to switch me to other vehicles.
No one asked me "where do you want to be per month?" I hate it when they do that.
Delivery is Monday.
03 Murcielago 4500 miles.. black/black 6-speed, perfect**
If I was to take a wild guess at it and it was puuuurfect .. I would be thinkin' the super tall $175ish/$180ish range .. if I had a buyer at my desk with some serious CIF I'd probably stretch to $185ish ...
Terry.
My residual on my lease agreement is about 25,000+. What does this information tell me? They obviously care about condition of a vehicle that is turned in, but I assume those dents won't lower the cost for me!
Any more advice/coaching before I make that call?
Carolyn
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What *year* might his fine automobile be ...?
Info .......................
Terry.
Starting bid: US $13,100.00 ...**
Didn't you notice the Faulklands zipcode ....?
Terry.
i know it is a tough question. how about some different scenarios? gas is 2.00, 3.50, 5.00 per gallon...**
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Your right, it's a tuffy .....
Let me relay a couple of examples and maybe this will make sense ...
For starters, gas has never been "free" - there's always been a cost ... when you went to the pump in the last few years it's been $1.75/$2.00 .... when the prices spiked and hit $2.75/$3.00+ people were running around saying "oh my gawd, It took me $60 dollars to fill my 20 gallon tank and I do that 3 times a month.!! I can't believe it, whats going on..?? - I can't afford $180 dollars a month, I'm going broke.!!" ........... didn't anyone stop and think, or look at their friggin' BP card before.? .. it cost them $40 per fill-up before or $120 a month, so the spiked cost was $60 more a month, Not $180 .. or did their daddy own a gas station and their fuel was free before the increases.?? ..l.o.l...
Back in the summer a friend of mine was interviewed by a local TV station about the high price of gas at the marina's (he's got a fat daddy $100,000+ boat) .. he was all purtyed-up for the interview and he was going through all the drama of how it cost's him $400+ to fill his tanks and how he can't afford it, what's with the government and how he's probably going to sell it ~ blah blah blah ...
So when we talked about it a few days later I said: "Bob, thank gawd your Dad owns a gas station" .. and he replies "heck no, that was a stupid statement" .. "no Bob the stupid statement is, it *already* costs you $250 to fill your tanks, and now it cost's you $400 .. that's $150 more than what you were used to paying before - and you only do that 4 times a year.. can you afford the extra $600 a year, or are you still going to sell your boat.?" ..... he was absolutely stunned, he'd never thought about it that way.
The reason why I use that silly example is .. he's not a small minority of folks that forget to do the math, he's on the majority side .... me personally, I'm probably the biggest advocate of "Cash conservation" on the planet, thats why it's super important for folks to do the math before they buy a "fuel efficient" anything ... I'm not advocating any particular vehicle, if the math works-out and it will save some Big $$ and they'll be happy with the vehicle for the next 40/60 months, then do it ...
How will hybrids do in the next few years ...? .. I think they will do super.! .. you'll get enough people that owe $10,000 on $7,000 vehicles and bury themselves into a vehicle that they "think" will save them Tons ~~ until they go to trade on the next one .....
Terry.
I work with Skip's brother actually but not at the auto group that his family owns.
That is just one step up from the folks who manage to figure out a way to buy a $30,000 - 40,000 SUV and then whine about the cost of the fuel for the thing
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I was looking at a used Passat at a Saturn dealer once.
Them: "So, what kind of payment are you looking for?"
Me: "I'll probably pay cash for the car."
Them: "So, what kind of payment are you looking for?"
Next, please!
I don't think the energy situation is going to get "better". And Heaven Forbid there's some geo-political "event" that suddenly makes it even worse. After all, the Middle East, where most of the oil is, is mainly controlled by Crazy People who hate us.....It's like an econ. 101 graph--the # of Crazy People who hate us (who control most of the oil) keeps rising, while the amount of oil is dwindling.....not good.
I've decided to sell my my 91 Accord EX for something newer and less anxiety provoking. I'd appreciate some advice on pricing it:
140k, auto, 4dr windows/doors/sunroof, cruise ctrl, am/fm/CD, ac works pretty well, well maintained; no major repairs needed as of december; tires, radiator, & muffler less than 2 years old;
exterior (maroon) has a couple small rust patches near wheels and a few minor paint scratches on bumper from a fender bender. no other accident history; interior (gray) clean and well kept.
i'm selling in MA, although it lived in D.C. suburbs until 03.
is $2200 fair? is it even reasonable to consider actually selling this, or should I just trade it for whatever I can get?
also, while I'm now a loyal and trusting honda owner, and was planning on moving onto a 4dr auto. '03-'05 civic lx, would I be just as safe and content with a similar '04 or'05 corolla le? i'm more interested in value and reliability than style and features and the corolla seems to be a bit less expensive.
thanks for reading!
It still is likely worth in and around the $2K mark if it runs good and the rust is still of the surface variety, no see through holes. The key is to get the exposure to the people who need a car today and have the cash, or some kid who wants to mod the crap out of the car.
I think if you can find the right corner at the right time, simply giving the car a self made detail and putting a nice easy to read sign of $2500 OBO in the window and it wont last long. Take the first real cash offer that is anywhere close to $2000.