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It had 4,000 miles and brought $25,000
Just read Ford is giving employess a $1000 bonus. :sick:
I have to confess that we did not believe the friend who told us this. Then, he showed up with the sales invoice and proved it.
Occasionally, I see a deal that makes me shake my head and ask why. Last week's deal was a 2008 Toyota Matrix auto trans new for $14.8k (Elgin Toyota, Northwest Herald, NW suburbs of Chicago). When I was in the market last year, the price was $16-17.
They just needed to keep the facility building them running until they closed it. Ford probably made money on those fleet only Taurus' because the overhead costs on an old model are low and unlike in the past, Ford wasn't taking those cars back from a captive customer. The rental company owned them and it's their loss when selling them.
Just makes you wonder about eroding the value of the Ford brand, though, when you see used 2007s for under $10 grand.
Then again, they're still selling the ancient Ranger and an outdated Focus here, so why should we be surprised?
2006 Ford Explorer - Eddie Bauer
V6 - 4wd
Miles: 20K
Color: white/tan
Options: moonroof, heated leather seats, rear sensor, 3rd row (manual fold)
No dings, clean interior
Original tires and brakes
Scheduled maintance observed
Base model 2 door
6,000 miles
white
manual trans
sunroof
Dealer is asking $19,400. Any help determining the actual value of this vehicle is much appreciated.
Seattle, WA
2001 Subaru Forester L AWD
88,000 miles
Dark blue, gray cloth seats
4 cylinder
auto trans
cd changer, premium sound, factory alarm
super clean inside (no kids/pets) and out
needs tires and rear wheel bearing replaced
no paintwork or accidents, no dents/dings, only minor rock chips on hood
Thanks for your help
It's not too hard even to DIY.
Car should trade for $17,500-18,000
2006 Acura TL
dark gray/black
navigation
52k (ouch)
good rubber, all service records
no dings ,scratches or curb rash
front bumper has been painted due to a parking scrape
Acuracare ext. warr. to 100k
in Nawlins Lousyanna.
auto tranny
Help please?? gonna try to sell private party
What say you for trade-in value on this:
'04 S60R 6-spd 54k miles
It says nothing of heated seats and I can see it has no moonroof.
EDIT: huh. maybe that one is overpriced, huh? I just found a CPO one the same color, but only has 30k miles, has moonroof, heated seats, laminated side windows, and a rear-seat entertainment system. Priced $22,995. So .... would you be so kind as to provide values on both of these?
THANKS!
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290211738862
It has 45k miles, heated seats + moonroof, and you could definitely have it at or under $17k.
A CPO car requires a lot of recon, avg bill is @ $2000 plus the warranty.
64K miles, automatic, moonroof, prw doors/windows. Good condition. State is NH.
But, man, that's gotta be the worst color combo I've seen .... or at least the most boring.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
A CPO car requires a lot of recon, avg bill is @ $2000 plus the warranty.
Thanks, max.
So... I'm guessing then that the lower mile one with more options might be in the $17k range. Add the CPO and maybe possibly I should be able to pick one up for around $21k? Give or take a nickel.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Anyway, girlfriend's looking at dumping her Hyundai and getting into an XC90.
The Hyundai:
2001 Sonata GLS, Black on tan
Roof, auto, alloys, CD player, etc. Pretty loaded for an '01 Hyundai.
107k miles. Really good condition, non smoker, no stains, good exterior, fastidious about maintenance...obviously looking to sell outright.
What'ya think a "right price" would be?
She's looking at:
2004 XC90, blue over charcoal leather
T5 AWD, 7 passenger, no nav, 41k miles, at a local used Euro-only lot.
Currently priced at 21,950, and it's been there forever (I actually looked at the same unit over the summer!)
I think the price is fair, any possibility of wiggle room on it? Thanks! As a Volvo guy, what're your thoughts on the T5 XC90s in general?
Probably more like $22,000+
The Hyundai would probably bring $2k on a trade, so @ $4k private party sounds right.
As for the Volvo, the price on it is pretty good.
If they have had the car as long as you say, they are losing money to sell it now.
The fact that they have hung on to it this long means that they probably aren't amenable to any more dealing on it. But, you never know.
Offer them $21k and see what happens.
If the car doesn't come with a warranty, make sure you buy one.
The XC90 2.5T is a good car. But, like any Volvo, repairs are more expensive than on a mass market car. You might just want to pay a little more and get a CPO car from a Volvo dealer.
Quad Cab (4-dr)
5.9L 6-cyl cummins
6-spd manual
4WD
41k miles
Red/Grey
no real major options, it has power windows/locks/driver's side seat, power tow mirrors, cruise, a/c, single cd player, just your basic run of the mill SLT really
Interior is in good shape, non smoker, seat covers on seats since it was new
Exterior is in very good shape, has a couple touched up rock chips, no dings or major scratches. Inside of the bed is in excellent shape, has a bedliner, also bed rail caps. Its not a truck that's seen heavy use, just pulled trailers.
Never been in any sort of accident or had any body work.
Has 2 sets of tires, both at least 80% tread. Brakes are 90%. All maintenance is up to date, has synthetic oil. Always well taken care of, one owner truck.
What would be a good private party price? It has a transferable 6 yr/100k ESC as well. What do you think a dealer would give if we just sold it to them? Not looking to trade it in on anything.
Thanks!
I'm guessing private party at @ $30,000
2001 Oldsmobile Alero GL2
4door Sedan
3.4L V6 Engine, 4-Speed Automatic Transmission
FWD
100,000 miles
Polo (Dark) Green/Tan
Options:
Alloy Wheels
Fog lights
Leather Wrap Steering Wheel
Spoiler
Power Sunroof
AM/FM Cass/CD
8 Speaker Premium Sound Sys.
Power Seat
Exterior Body and Interior in good condition.
One Owner
Never any major work/problems
Thanks!
Thanks!
Either way we aren't in bad shape at all, only owe $27k on it including the ESC.
Thanks!!
Sellers don't seem to want to come down to much on price, but I just started looking the last couple days. Want to make sure I'm not being unreasonable here with 15% below.
My general thought is that if you're going to utilize price guide numbers for privately offered vehicles is to treat the PP value as the absolute maximum you should pay. There are, of course, many exceptions. For instance, the SUV market is in the toilet yet private sellers continue to price their vehicles as though gas was still $2.00 per gallon.
On the subject of negotiating - our family has been involved in 4 successful craigslist transactions in the past year. Here's the asking and selling prices:
1) '95 Nissan Maxima (selling) - asked $1750 (it had hail and body damage) - sold for $1500 in 3 hours in mid-January 2007.
2) '98 Toyota 4Runner Limited (buying) - initially asked $9765 (WAY high) - bought for $7000 after price reduced to $7000 in November.
3) '91 Toyota MR2 (selling) - asked $4200 - sold for $4000 in 2 days at Christmas after failing to sell in the summer - go figure.
4) '99 Nissan Maxima SE (selling) - asked $4200 (it had high mileage) - sold for $3600 in 2 weeks in early January.
Don't be afraid to offer low. Sellers' circumstances vary. When you see something that's repeatedly advertised, the time may be ripe for a favorable selling price, regardless of the advertised asking number.
If I'm selling a car, I'm not cutting my price until you come look at the car and make an offer.. People who make offers without driving/seeing the vehicle aren't considered serious buyers..
If you go check out a car that's listed for $6000, and it's been for sale for at least a week, I'd be stunned if they wouldn't take $5500...
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Are there any dealers buying for edmunds trade-in or is just because of my particular vehicle. I had a fight with one guy because he said I wanted "retail" (which wasn't true) for my trade but wanted to pay wholesale for a new vehicle. And my response was "what's your point"??!! Of course that's what I want! I'm not interested in him making money on me.
Selling any late model vehicle privately is usually pretty tough. Moving a late model SUV right now is damn near impossible unless you can afford to give it away. The spread on the book numbers indicates just how unsettled the market is.
Just because edmunds says a vehicle is worth X dollars, doesn't make it so.
Dealers are in business to make money. So, they have to buy cars where the wholesale market values them and sell them for retail money.
Certain cars are worth more to dealers, because they are worth more to consumers.
A Dodge Durango doesn't fall into that category.
Prob $3-5,000 retail.
But: PRICING is key, duh. As are the ads, description, pics, records, etc. But, if you take the $2000 offer, someone will show up an hour later & offer $2200. If you don't take the $2K offer, you'll take a month or 2 to sell it & be lucky to get $1700.
It's a Jungle Out There......!
Man, I would be SO careful about that Volvo. They can be nothing but BIG and constant trouble.
This comes from a guy who used to love them but the newer ones just aren't the same.
Still buying and selling huh?
Well...that's kinda the reason that dealer went into business in the first place.
Durangos are and have always been very soft in the market as used cars and now with gas at 3.50 a gallon, these are very difficult.
Also, you are competing against new 2008's that have HUGE incentives going on right now.
Probably best to just keep it for the time being if you can.
Still buying and selling huh?
Not really, just have to move some things along so we can start down the path to homeownership in a real civilized area, lol.
We've had that Ram for almost 2 years, I'm still driving the Pilot we bought in July........Love it!! I'm seriously stuck on Honda now, no issues in 18k miles.
Location: New England
2003 Mazda Protege LX
50K miles
Options beyond LX trim package:
Automatic
Color: Black
New tires all around 1 month ago.
Brakes maybe 1 yr ago.
No accidents, 1 owner.
Body is in good condition, some scratches, alloys a bit chewed up by curbside parking scrapes.
Test drove it and it runs good so I'm going to make offer. Asking price is 7200.
Engine compartment looks clean (for a 2003). I have a 2003 accord and it looks clean too. Funny thing is I looked at a 2003 Hyundai Elantra saturday, the engine compartment looked 3 yrs older than the mazda and honda.. this is as far as rust/corrision goes. Must be they use cheaper materials.
I know they CAN be trouble. I also know they CAN be great...remember I've owned two (and will be replacing the Saab, which most definitely can be and is trouble) with another.
I dunno, I'm of two minds on this one. She wants a car-basedSUV (as you know SUVs are not my bag, at all, but if there's one out there I'd be comfortable with someone I care about in, it's the XC90) and I know Volvos CAN be persnickety. By the same token, if she were to have a bad accident, I can't think of another vehicle besides maybe an S Class or an M1A2 I'd rather she be in. (It'd be a damn sight better than the Hyundai in that regard, anyway.)
I don't even think she's made up her mind about it yet...
Location: Fort Dodge, IA (my location is Belmond, IA)
Year/Make/Model: 2005 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT
Body Style: 5-door minivan
Engine: 3.8L V6
Driveline: Front Wheel Drive
Mileage: 16,700
Color: Inferno Red / Grey Interior
Major Options:
Rear Air and Heat, Power Driver's Seat, Power Left and Right Sliding Doors, Power Liftgate, Power Sunroof, Remote Entry, Overhead Console with Trip Computer, AM/FM Cassette and CD with CD/DVD Changer and Rear Video Entertainment System Rear Window Defroster, Wiper and Washer, Luggage Rack, Eligible for Service Contract, Remainder of 3 Year/36,000 Mile Basic Warranty Applies, Remainder of 7 Year/70,000 Mile Limited Powertrain Warranty Available with $150 Transfer Fee
Condition: good (was smoked in, though)
Other:
I read on JD Power today that 2006 GC's were expected to have a 37% residual value...even on the high-end models.
http://www.jdpower.com/autos/reviews/review.aspx?ID=247
Putting in a figure of $38,000 * 37% I came up with $14,060 for a residual value.
This doesn't really jive with retail prices that I've been finding:
KBB = $19,000
Edmunds = $15,300
NADA = $18,700
Now, trade in is much closer to that 37%, though:
KBB = $14,700
Edmunds = $12,300
NADA = $15,900
If we decide to make an offer, any advice on where to start?
The low miles and DVD player add some value, but that it was smoked in would cross it off my list immediately. In fact for me, shopping for a family car, that alone would change the condition from Good to Poor, because both me and my son have asthma.
Honestly I think Edmunds is the closest by far.
Offer no more than $15k and only after they have that interior detailed to address the smoking.
Or shop around. I also saw a brand new leftover 2006 SXT early last year for sale for just $20,600. You can add an aftermarket DVD player for $600-900 and get a bigger screen. $18-19k for a used 2005 is crazy high.
(edited for typo)
The books/online prices are just loose guides. Also, what could you get a new one for, w/full warranty? (you may need it with a Chrysler).......