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I forget what year Cadillac finally fixed the Northstar oil leaks that are 4500.00 to fix!
And all of the early Northstars would eventually leak. At some point, I think around 2000-2001 they finally found a modification that for the most part fixed the problem or at least slowed it down.
It's a nasty thing to fix. they have to pull the engine and split it in half to ge to that seal.
While I appreciate the comments, I'm still waiting for some one to look up the auction values for me.
Apparently you are using the information from http://galves.com ? I see I can get access for one week for $8.95, probably be worth it. While I'm contemplating that expenditure, I would still appreciate any and all feedback on what you think the small dealer might have paid at auction for this Cadillac.
It looks to me like the average auction price has been around the mid $9s. After his fees and transport and whatever... he might possibly be into it for the mid $10s. So $12k would be pretty fair if it all checks out.... which it sounds like it doesn't based on your description of the problems.
Galves won't do you much good in Texas. It is pretty much a northeast thing.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I had forgotten about the head gasket problems.
My advise would be to not worry so much about what that dealer may have paid but rather on what it worth to you.
Brentwood can do a better job with auction numbers than I can but I would go to KBB.com (free) and look at the trade in value and deduct a couple of thousand dollars from that number.
Auction numbers can be all over the board depending on a lot of factors.
It sounds like you aren't afraid of this car and that is a good thing. It's a buyer's market on cars like this one so I wouldnt' be afraid to make a low offer.
Fair Condition - 8200.00
Good Cond - 9575.00
Bill...are you out there? What do you think?
Amazing how those cars depreciate and how high miles affect them.
Still, if a person happens to like them they can be a lot of car for the money.
I'm betting that used car lot is pulling your leg on what he paid!
Green means sold, Red means not sold.
2006 DTS
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
To them, it wouldn't be a $4500 leak. It would be a $3 worth of kitty litter on the garage floor leak.
I am not sure they aren't right. If a car with 90K miles on it uses a half quart of oil between oil changes, most people aren't too worried. Yet, if it leaks 1/10th that amount in the same time period, we freak out.
Edit: I'm assuming we are talking about a pocket change sized spot on the garage floor every night, not a steady stream.
It'a amazing the adverse effect high (or low) miles have on high end cars. They can make or break the car quickly. I guess people are afraid and probably rightfully so.
Those Northstar leaks are worse than that. they start out as a pocket change sized spot when they first start leaking and it'll get progressively worse until you HAVE to do something.
My buddy in CA got lucky a couple of years ago. He had a much loved fairly low mileage Caddy with a Northstar leak that had gotten to the point he had to have it fixed. His estimate of 4500.00 was very close to the car's value and it wasn't perfect in other respects either. Still a very nice car.
He made the appointemtn to take it in and it was t-boned hard enough to total it a couple of days later. I think he ended up getting something like 6000.00 for the car. It wasn't good though. He got hurt in the process. They paid his medical bills but he was hurting for months afterwards.
But I was thinking about Porsches with the rear main seal leak. Porsche enthusiasts here freak out and spend thousands on it. In the UK, they don't care. Maybe it is because they grew up with MGBs and Triumphs.
Now, THAT does get their attention!
Ah! Look who doesn't notice that it's the end of the month and the car salesman is too busy to get on the Internet? :P
Sorry. Couldn't resist....
Now, if it had a roof and Nav and was jam up gorgeous and like new, then maybe I could see it, but not for a Level 1 car.
Watch for oil leaks on these...
I always tell people to return them to stock, and a heavily modified one usually means, to me, that the car has been beaten on.
FWIW, I have a somewhat heavily modified E28 M5 myself.
I went home early.
Speaking of DTSs tho, they are funny things, options mean a LOT on them, I paid the moon for the 08 I have on the lot but it's a Luxury 2 with a roof and Navi and 26k, it's the "right" car.
Galves on a base 06 DTS with 91k is $7625, loaded to the gills it's $10,500 or so. These usually do over Galves at auction (like most any car) as Galves is usually to be considered a trade-in figure. I'd put $7600 to maybe a hair more on a 90k base model DTS, because after I shape it, pay fees, flip title, etc I'd net that or maybe a few hundred more out of it.
Hence the point of Galves and why we all use it, generally if you trade a car at Galves, you have enough room to prep the car, ship it to the auction, pay costs, etc and break even or maybe make a few bucks.
I have to see what Galves looks like when you look at it vs. when I do at the library. Since the library version gives just a trade and retail (I think) based on year and mileage I'm assuming you get way more.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Considering getting a 2011 Toyota Prius and would like to know what to expect in trade on the following:
2007 Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited 2WD
all options (sans 4WD & 3rd seat) -
Nav
Leather
Moonroof
JBL 6-disk
34.1K miles
New Michelin Energy LX4 tires in March
Silver w/gray (ash) interior
Condition: Interior like new - really. One adult owner rarely had passengers. Exterior - paint is still glossy in all areas - no door dings, a few very minor scratches on lower body near rocker panel on driver side door, wheels in great shape (no curb rash). There are some of the usual nicks/chips on the lower front bumper but touched up with Toyota touch-up paint using a modeling brush - not the one that came with the paint.
No accidents/damage.
Get on average between 27-28mpg and have gotten better but the power of this car is very addictive!
I've checked the usual online places (KBB, NADA, Edmunds) but they aren't very accurate. I have considered selling it to CARMAX or may even sell it myself depending on what I can get for it without going that route.
Lastly, thanks in advance for any input as to what I may get on trade.
Regards -
M. J. McCloskey
Trade in on Yukon was $22,000 with 61,000 miles
The key with the $29,800# on a new one is "if they had any" hence why the used ones are selling for what they are.
...think they'd entertain $28K - don't want to waste anyone's time. We went and looked at it again today, could easily be confused with a brand new one
Problem is, it's FWD and you didn't post where you live... where I am, in North Jersey, that's a very tough truck to move, in Florida AWD means nothing to buyers.
So your mileage may vary based on where you are.
Before you sell to Carmax, check to see if your state does a sales tax credit on trade-ins and do bear that in mind.
But even in the south, all the money and a bag of chips. How was the deal on the new car?
Anyway, your value is close to what the other sites have noted.
As far as I know, VA doesn't allow for a sales tax break when trading in a car.
Best regards - M. J. McCloskey
Might wanna shop this a bit.
Thanks! I see it's down to $28,495 today - may have to go see what they'll do tomorrow :shades:
I get no response, no email, nothing. I bid higher than what showed ($22,600),
but with no one else bidding my bid wouldn't go up any higher.
I think it was rather crass of the dealer to just blow off a serious buyer like that.
As it stands, he can put that Saleen up on the backside of his lot.
2013 Mustang GT, 2001 GMC Yukon Denali
The sales guy knocked $1,500 off right off the bat and my friend countered with $18,000. I told him that if he could get it for $20,000 it would probably be a good deal.
What do you think?
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
Plus that car is also due for a valve adjustment... I can do the job but most shops can't, and the shims are money.
Still, $20k would be cheap.. Galves is $18,600 with adding for equipment and punishing it for the miles, and I doubt it does under $20k at the sale.
BTW, I found ya a mini
As for the SMG, what can I say?
Thanks for the Mini info, but now that my 1975 '02 is rolling my son is hooked. According to him it garners more positive attention than the newer and (exponentially)more expensive cars some of his friends drive.
Win/Win- especially for my budget...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2025 Camry SE AWD
Not in the front- the front fenders are unique to the M3, so I guess BMW AG didn't want to tool up a face-lifted set for a limited production model.
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive
2002 > Everything.
You should be justifiably proud of him.
2010 Mercury Grand Marquis
25,060 miles
Silver in color, base model, looked pretty much perfect. No sun roof, no NAV, no trip computer, none of the fancy stuff. Did have leather seats, I think that would be the only option.
I saw the carfax on this one. It was a rental car in Rhode Island, up until February of this year. Sold at auction in Florida in February with 20k miles to Southwest Lincoln Mercury here in Houston, Texas. They have had it since them, used as a demo. Now up for sale with 25k miles.
They had it priced on the internet for $15,900. When I tried to bargain a bit, the Used Car Sales Manager told me he had just been to an auction where 2010 Grand Marquis were going for $16.4, and refused to give an inch.
Interested to know if he was fibbing.
2010s? No, not right now. 2010s like that, with leather, might hit the low 14s. The market is still strong, but not as strong as it was in the late spring and early summer.
Average is mid 13s, so throw in auction fees, transport, clean up, run it through the shop, etc... $15,900 is still quite reasonable, but it's not like a ridiculous steal or anything.
We're in Brunswick, Georgia. On the coast, off I-95 halfway between Savannah and Jacksonville, Florida.
2004 Volvo S80 T6
2.9 V6 Twin Turbo, 4 spd auto
91,000 miles
white over tan leather
sunroof, CD changer,
Cold weather package, which includes heated seats and headlight washers/wipers
bi-xenon headlights
rain sensing wipers
Interior and exterior just got full detail, but the interior shows 4 years of my wife being in the car everyday, and she's not what I would call "gentle". So, overall "average" condition. It's getting new shoes next week. All maintenance current, and I have every receipt sicne we bought it,
Conveniently, a colleague has expressed interest in buying it for her daughter. While a buyer in hand is great, this car is not the first one I'd want to sell to somebody I have to see again, since it is a Volvo T6 on its original transmission. However, the buyer is persistent and wants me to give her a price.
It's paid for, and would probably be a private sale anyway. What's it worth private party or trade?
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
I wouldn't sell a T6 to someone I like.....
Not for the first time, a new employee walks into my office today, saying he needs wheels and he's been told to talk to me about it. He has a couple cars he's looking at; an '06 Suzuki of some sort -- which I talk him out of, rarer than hen's teeth around here -- and an '03 Acura TL w/ 95k he's already looked at.
Long story short, I agree to go out with him and look at the car again. Of course, we wind up doing the whole thing; drive out to the buyer's house, look it over, test drive it, take it to a nearby shop, and buy it... I'm normally a little more methodical.
So. In mid-Michigan, a dark gray metallic TL.
2nd owner, carfax shows a 'very minor accident' in its first year.
All body panels are original w/ VIN sticker present.
No rust except a little on the underside of the hood and the exhaust system in a few places... that's about as good as it gets in snow country.
Good tires, meticulously clean, interior is nice, no smells, no rips no errors.
Transmission fluid is clean; definitely not original.
Engine so clean you can eat off it; look through oil filler cap: evidence of compulsive oil changing. Owner is a gear head, bit of the obsessive type. The man has a 3-car garage PLUS a pole barn with a '65 GTO. That one's clean, too ;->
The shop gives it a clean bill of health. Big issue is the tranny; owner says the VIN puts it past the fix; I had no time to verify, as buyer has a flight out that afternoon and wants the car.
$7550, which is Edmund's dealer retail for a "clean" car. However, in the present crazy used-car market, this thing struck me as very reasonable. What do you-all think?
Cheers -Mathias
I'm no price guide, but seems higher than I would pay. But, probably reasonable, and could give years of cheap service. So, a good deal?
Hey, I have a 2000 TL (same style) with just about 160K on it (probably over, my son has it at school). Bought in 12/2008 with around 146-148K on it. Still pretty much runs and drives like it has 60K on it, and I have no worries about my son taking 250+ mile trips from school.
almost 3 years, and other than normal oil changes and doing other fluids (trans, coolant) the only thing I did to it was tires and struts (blew a tire and strut whamming a pothole).
hard to argue with getting that service out of it, since I only paid 2K for it, and could probably sell it tomorrow for the 3K I have in it! Though my son would probably be upset...
I just want to get him through college in this (class of 2013!). after that, he can buy himself the BMW he wants.
2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.
Good thing he's the assistant police chief...
Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport-2020 C43-1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica
Wife's: 2021 Sahara 4xe
Son's: 2018 330i xDrive