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  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    I don't see any of these... I don't think ... so they must not have gone through Manheim.

    However, I'm a bit suspicious of the 3376 mile one. There was one reported to have 3375 that went through Dallas last month. It is listed as "HP-White" though. I'm not sure what the HP means. Anyway, that one was supposedly in below average condition, so it only hit $36,600.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Member Posts: 5,499
    The question in my mind is why do people buy these cars and then sell them with so few miles? Do they think they're a appreciating asset?
    '08 Acura TSX, '17 Subaru Forester
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    while waiting in a jaguar dealership one day, I witnessed a conversation between an owner of a new mustang and a salesperson. This owner had sunk somewhere in the neighborhood of $25k into the car already to make it a shelby clone. He now wanted to trade it on an XK because the mustang was too loud, too harsh, etc.

    Too many people have more money than brains. That's the answer to your question.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    I think that's High Performance White, not normal Oxford or Wimbledon White.
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    Yeah, I don't know. I think a few of these GT500s with literally less than 1000 or so miles were cars that maybe just sat for too long and got driven by sales managers, maybe the owner took it for a spin... The dealer just sold it to another dealer. Who knows?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    The question in my mind is why do people buy these cars and then sell them with so few miles? Do they think they're a appreciating asset?

    I'm sure that's true in some cases. OTOH, when we were looking at the Mini Countryman we found more than a few cars nearby that were less than one year old and with less than 5000 miles. We began to wonder what was wrong with that model as they appeared to be over-represented in the used car market...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    So my Australian friend and I found a 2012 Shelby GT 500 with just over 2,000 miles. The dealer is a used car lot in Upstate (Glenns Falls), NY. Asking price of just under $47,500. I called and made an offer of $42,000 on behalf of my friend. I'm going to hear back probably tomorrow. I'll let you know how it turns out.

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  • mkupneskimkupneski Member Posts: 29
    Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the info.

    As we have gotten further into the car buying process, we are now thinking of trading my wife's nearly new Jeep Wrangler (which she has disliked from almost the day we got it) instead of the SC. Can I get your help in getting a trade-in value for her car? Here are the specifics:

    2012 Jeep Wrangler Sahara (2-Door) ~ 15,000 miles. Black with Black interior. Six Speed Manual transmission and Dual tops (hard top + soft top). It is in very good to excellent condition (it's detailed and waxed every two months - looks brand new). No accidents, non-smoker, tires/brakes/etc. in great condition.

    Thanks,
    Michael
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    A lot of them sat in the showroom, to help draw traffic.
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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    What does she hate so much about the Jeep?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Also curious to hear the answer.

    Guessing - rough and rugged sounds cool on paper but not as easy to live with.
  • mkupneskimkupneski Member Posts: 29
    Her compliants about the jeep are (in no particular order):

    * It's too hard to plan (since it takes about 10-15 minutes to get the soft top up or down, she has to decide the night before how she'll drive the vehicle the next day. This makes it hard to be spontaneous.

    * The ride is much rougher on bumpy roads than she realized before buying it.

    * Being her daily driver, it is rather dangerous at highway speeds on the interstate. The definition of lane wander can be found in its short wheelbase.

    * The trunk space is virtually non-existent and the spare tire on back makes access difficult.

    Michael
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    * It's too hard to plan (since it takes about 10-15 minutes to get the soft top up or down, she has to decide the night before how she'll drive the vehicle the next day. This makes it hard to be spontaneous.

    * The ride is much rougher on bumpy roads than she realized before buying it.

    * Being her daily driver, it is rather dangerous at highway speeds on the interstate. The definition of lane wander can be found in its short wheelbase.

    * The trunk space is virtually non-existent and the spare tire on back makes access difficult.

    Not to be a jerk about it, but when I test drove my 1999 Sahara I noticed all of the above on a 30 minute test drive. That was 10.5 years ago and I still have it- and just today I drove it on a 40 mile round trip with my wife and 18 year old son. No complaints- except from my son, who wants to drive it all the time...

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

  • steine13steine13 Member Posts: 2,818
    Not to be a jerk about it, but when I test drove my 1999 Sahara I noticed all of the above on a 30 minute test drive. That was 10.5 years ago and I still have it [..]

    (i) We need a new title for this particular discussion.

    (ii) Y'all are pretty much saying the same thing: The Wrangler is a vehicle for True Believers. Nothing wrong with that.

    "Most Civilized Wrangler Yet" don't mean it drives like a Town Car... nor yet an Aveo...

    Cheers -Mathias
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    Several friends had Jeeps when I had my NA Miata. You can imagine all the girly car comments I had to endure.

    On one road trip rain appeared out of nowhere and they got soaked! Had to drive to the next overpass to put their tops up.

    With as able to put my top up in 3 seconds or so, after slowing down (not even stopping).

    Jeeps are tons of fun in the right weather.
  • mkupneskimkupneski Member Posts: 29
    I was still hoping to get some advice on values...........
  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    Y'all are pretty much saying the same thing: The Wrangler is a vehicle for True Believers. Nothing wrong with that.

    I wasn't even a true believer. I bought my 1999 Sahara in preparation for an upcoming political campaign in order to negate a potential avenue of attack from my opponent. I fully intended to sell it as soon as the election was over. As it turned out, my wife, son, and I all grew quite attached to the TJ- warts and all. We ended up selling our Nissan Pathfinder SE and keeping the Jeep. We have never regretted that decision.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    Going to be hard to put a number on that because I believe there are still some 2012s sitting new on dealer lots. Sahara with a couple of options most likely stickered a bit north of $35K?

    I'd wait to hear what qbrozen says, but I'll take a stab at $26,500 - $27,000 for a trade in value. Figure this way they can put it on their lot for $31,999 & take $30K.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • mkupneskimkupneski Member Posts: 29
    Actually, this Sahara only has an MSRP of around $31K new. A comparable 2013 goes for almost $32.5 right now due to several price increases since we bought. I was really hoping we could get somewhere around $24K trade-in.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    Oh, right. Yours is a 2 door. Every time I play around on the jeep website, I build a 4 door Wrangler. How much do you owe on it? 23K - $24K seems reasonable. Wait to see what qbrozen says.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    you guys already hit on it. $23k is about the number. Depending on what you are trading for and the deal to be had on that, you could get close to your 24k number.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    edited January 2013
    gbrozen, do you know what this puppy brought at auction? It's been on their lot for over seven weeks...
    Thanks in advance!!!

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,220
    Nice, except for the slushbox...

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    Nice. Red, slushbox, standard halogens (which you like from your wife's '09 328i), no NAV/I drive, sport pkg. that'd make a nice road companion for you for the next few years for your job.

    I'm wondering if that "Internet price" has been lowered over the last 7 weeks?

    $17,500 @ auction?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    edited January 2013
    Yes. a six speed and Xenons would be perfect, but I can retrofit Euro(non-adaptive) Xenons should I want to. With the '02 on the block and my son taking the X3 to college another autobox in the garage would be nice as my wife can't drive a manual. And I'd still have the ti and Wrangler with three pedals.
    According to the Carfax, it's a one owner that has had the oil changed nearly every 3000-6000 miles(!). It also has Comfort Access and Sirius XM in addition to the SP and CWP, so it's actually nicely optioned.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    edited January 2013
    I don't see anything with miles that low. Those with 40k-50k are bringing right around $15k. I would imagine that one would pull close to $16. Maybe even better with the sport pack. Depends on condition, of course.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    Thanks! If I decide to make an offer it will will probably be around $18,000.

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

  • bslatebslate Member Posts: 14
    edited January 2013
    Hi all,

    I am wondering if you can give me an idea on my wifes car.

    We are in the Baltimore/DC area.
    2009 Mercury Mariner Premier SUV
    V6, front wheel drive, Auto
    41,000 miles
    Silver exterior/stone interior
    Leather, sunroof, 6 cd, heated seats, SYNC, traction control, backup system, trailer package, dual climate, power seats, upgraded wheels, roof rack, stability control. (Bascially everything but nav)
    Its in imacculate shape. Garage kept. Only flaw is door ding on pass side door from a trash can during a windstorm.
    Tires 70%
    All maint records, regularly serviced, washed etc.
    Small fender bender that was repaired when someone hit the car (while it was parked) in a parking garage by turning too sharply.

    Happy to hear, & appreciate your thoughts!

    Thanks!
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    I would expect offers around $13k, depending on how well the damage was repaired.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • praisejesuspraisejesus Member Posts: 1
    edited January 2013
    Location:NYC
    Year/Make/Model:2011 GMC Terrain SLT-2 Fully Loaded
    Engine:3.0 liter,6 cylinder,auto
    Driveline:AWD
    Mileage:39,000
    Color:Black/Grey
    Major options:rear dvd package
    Condition:No damage looks brand new
    Tires:60% worn
    Brakes:good
    Maintenance:up to date
  • ibaribar Member Posts: 1
    Hello,
    trying to get some statistics on what a XKR with <20k miles is trading for at dealer-only auctions? Also, have my eyes on this guy specifically... SAJWA4DC4AMB38772. Any help in finding out the trading value would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    probably in the $22k zip code.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    big spread on these. I'm seeing $42k average to $49k above average. And all of those are between 20k and 30k miles.

    That particular car (it is on Ebay, in case you didn't know) didn't go through Manheim. Considering it under 10k miles, its probably more toward the $48k end of the spectrum. So $52k-53k should be fair.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • explorerx4explorerx4 Member Posts: 19,256
    edited February 2013
    I brought my mom's car to the dealer for a repair.
    Now I kind have the itch to look at something new.

    Q, can you give a ballpark on the following?

    2011 Explorer XLT AWD
    25k miles
    Dark Red
    Pano Roof
    Power Tailgate
    Leather Seats (fronts heated)
    Front/rear climate
    MyFord Touch (+ or - I don't know) ;)
    Thanks
    2023 Ford Explorer ST, 91 Mustang GT vert
  • aequitatisaequitatis Member Posts: 3
    Was offered 12,500 for trade-in.

    2006 Honda Pilot EX-L
    Green
    44600 miles
    Roof Rack
    Trailer Package
    Sun Roof
    Few cosmetic scratches/rubs on exterior otherwise pretty clean.

    Is this a relatively fair offer?

    Thanks.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Member Posts: 72,587
    CCB is the only cure...
  • 6passenger6passenger Member Posts: 9
    Location: Chicago, IL
    Year/Make/Model: 2003 Honda Odyssey EX-L
    Body Style: Minivan
    Mileage: 149,400
    Color: Black/Grey
    Major Options: Standard EX-L
    Condition:
    Details of interior: Clean and taken care of. Exterior - well loved, various dings, and dents
    Tires - Within 12 months - 10-15% wear.
    Brakes - Front brakes need to be replaced.
    Maintenance - Spark #2 coil pack melted. Engine head stripped, needs to be repaired. Tip of spark plug missing. Possible fell into piston?

    I've gotten everything and more out of this car than I could ever expect. Is there anything I can expect out of this other than a cup of coffee....Thanks!
  • 28firefighter28firefighter Member Posts: 9,334
    2007 BMW Z4 3.0si Coupe
    Silver over black leather
    67k miles
    Premium package
    Cold weather package
    Xenons
    Navigation
    CPO through 10/2013
    1 owner
    At a dealer in the Philly area.

    What should my Dad be looking to pay for something like this?
    2022 Tesla Model Y Performance, 2018 BMW M240i Convertible
  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,441
    sounds nice, but I would never do black leather in a convertible.

    Oh, is this an AT? I assume so, but you did not specify.

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  • roadburnerroadburner Member Posts: 17,312
    sounds nice, but I would never do black leather in a convertible.

    It's a coupe.

    Oh, is this an AT?

    I'd hope not!

    Mine: 1995 318ti Club Sport; 2020 C43; 2021 Sahara 4xe 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica Wife's: 2015 X1 xDrive28i Son's: 2009 328i; 2018 330i xDrive

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,441
    I missed the coupe part. Just saw the Z4 and assumed it was a convertible.

    so I will fall back on my no black leather rule.

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Member Posts: 16,373
    What's the asking price?

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2022 Highlander XLE AWD, 2022 Wrangler Sahara 4Xe, 2023 Toyota Tacoma SR 4WD

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    wow, there are alot of these out there. I think about $26k would be safe for the dealer.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    For AWD, that's way low. I'd be looking for more like 15k.
    For FWD, that's about right.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    edited February 2013
    ?? What do you mean the engine head stripped??
    And what is this about the plug? Is the car running or not?

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    edited February 2013
    Hmmm... I'm guessing they are asking something like $23,995 or $24,995.

    They had maybe $18k in it before certifying. What the warranty is worth is up to you. Personally, I'd have a hard time paying more than $22k, especially considering its not going anywhere until the snow stops.

    EDIT: I went searching... is that the Silver one in Devon? That's a manual trans. Definitely no more than $22k. It doesn't necessarily impact the value... until you try to trade it!

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

  • stickguystickguy Member Posts: 50,441
    edited February 2013
    with a stick, suddenly I want to see it! Too bad I don't work out in Malvern any more (right next to Devon), or I would run over and see it. and good guess on the price, they are asking $24,900

    and for something with that little CPO left, quite possible it was previously done. Not sure they would spend the money for another 8 months or so.

    I did check out the ad. Pretty cool looking, but with no moonroof, it is off my list.

    and for the CPO pretty sure there is 6 year powertrain warranty without that?

    2020 Acura RDX tech SH-AWD, 2023 Maverick hybrid Lariat luxury package.

  • kyfdxkyfdx Moderator Posts: 235,220
    But, for just a little more, you can have the Z4M coupe with 330 HP... :)

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  • 6passenger6passenger Member Posts: 9
    I am not a car guy...so this is as best as I can understand it. I did drive the care into the dealership.

    Due to some electrical issue the #2 spark plug melted and came up into the coil pack. The tried to remove the cylinder head cover but the bolts were stripped. When they did get it taken apart and were able to remove the melted spark plug they could not find the tip.

    I am told the parts that need to be replaced and repaired for this will run me about $1,500. In addition, I was told if the tip "fell" into the piston the damage can be substantial.

    So I don't even know if I can say put it back together and let me drive it? That is my monday discussion.

    So....I am curious if I say don't fix and it can't be driven if there is any value at all in it. Do I tow it to a dealer and say hey, whats my scrap heap worth?? :sick:
  • qbrozenqbrozen Member Posts: 32,891
    i am suprised at the CPO, too... but he said 1 owner, so unless its not a 1 owner or unless its been sitting there a LONG time, they obviously did it.

    '11 GMC Sierra 1500; '08 Charger R/T Daytona; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '08 Maser QP; '11 Mini Cooper S

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