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  • ronstoyronstoy Member Posts: 55
    Thanks for the info....

    (Mr.) Bill (ohhh nooo!) Sorry couldn't resist ;-)
  • utcarsonsutcarsons Member Posts: 9
    I was dancing in my chair when I realized that I had given you the wrong year on my Focus SE Wagon. It is a 2000. Could you give me another estimate. If it matters, I am in Utah and trading in to a Mazda dealer. Sorry for the miscomm...oops.

    Jodie
  • 93fsu193fsu1 Member Posts: 97
    or did you switch computers?
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... It looks nice, it has no miles .. all that "modified" stuff, is a no help here.

    If it stands tall and it's new .. a dealer would probably put $5,5 to $6 in it.

    On the retail side, it's anyones guess. You have to have the right buyer at the right time, maybe in the $8's ..?

    Terry.
  • peetertpeetert Member Posts: 124
    There's a couple of 2000 s40's listed at a local Volvo dealer. The invoice and msrp are as follows

    msrp invoice
    Blackberry $25,625 Contact Us
    S40 Silver Metallic $25,252 $23,461
    Midnight Metallic $25,225 $23,434
    White $23,975 $22,369
    White $23,475 $21,904

    What would be a good starting point.

    Also, is there some type of VIN decoder I can user to see what the options are?

    Thanks

    Peeter
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... 98 4x4 Limited Grand Cherokee's, with all the toy's .. slider, all the stuff with the low miles 35kish (super nice, super clean) are runnin' in the $14's at the block ...

    The Lincoln LS's, right now are probably the best buy across the board .. 00 with 20k, V8, sport pack, slider, are doing in the $22's ..

    If you are lookin' at the LS400's ..and you want it super nice and clean, with let's say 35kish in miles .. they still bang the the hammer in the 28's+. Thank goodness, your not lookin' at the SC's, I paid $31 for a 17k last month (smoke em' ..if you got em').

    And the Jags, there all over the place.

    So, pick your poison ....l..o..l..

    Terry.
  • mookie14mookie14 Member Posts: 252
    2000 xls now im wondering i have budgeted the miles and the payoff early i dont want to pay more $$ on miles than i have to .thats whyi want to payit off early wouldnt it make sense.i have no $$$$ for a car that is i went to kelly its like 14 to 16000 its a 2wd 4 dr.the miles im budgeting for is like 3300 dollars 22000 over .15 a mile.if i wait im looking at $4to 5000$$ i do not have that dough at all i have to get out this yr.i called ford they said as long as all the lease pymt r in that it i can take to them.i cannot trade it in no way at allhuh well ill wait 4 your response thanks.
  • utcarsonsutcarsons Member Posts: 9
    I just booted up the next day and vwahlaaa..no capital E problem. Thank heavens...buying a new car is hassle enough! :-)

    Jodie
  • blackcurrantblackcurrant Member Posts: 152
    He responded to my email saying the auction "didn't go anywhere near high enough".

    So much for that.

    Thanks guys.
  • peachtree103peachtree103 Member Posts: 182
    I'm Glad you answered that one before you got to the question I left you in the "Buying in Canada" discussion. : )

    Where you been hiding? Bill's been complaining about the work overload. We might have to raise his pay...
  • hungrywhalehungrywhale Member Posts: 83
    Looks like he'll be stuck with that car for a while then, won't he?
  • budsbrotherbudsbrother Member Posts: 36
    After 50 years of domestics, Dad is ready for an Accord or Camry. First, he's wondering what his 56,000 mile 95 Sable LS 4 door is worth. It's metallic red with beige cloth. Tires are less than a year old. Its got the digital dash and climate control and factory CD player. Interior is like new, but the outside has a couple of parking lot dings. Oh yeah, its also got the 3.8 V6 and yes the head gaskets have been done. There's still some warranty left on the head gaskets. He wants to know the trade-in and private sale prices. The car is in New England. Thanks for your advice, you guys make interesting reading here.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... What do you expect ..? It's a Ford 3.8, not a GM 3.8..l.o.l..

    Actually this is probably not a bad little vehicle, the tires are on the new side, it's a LS and the miles are super low for the year..

    He has all the toy's ..and except for some little parking lot kisses, it's still a nice ride (based on what your telling us) .. The Galves book will hit this one, so I gotta think in and around the high $2's on a trade, try $4,500 on the retail side and see what happens. Just make sure it's cleaned, and looks super sharp before he does either..

    Good luck ...

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... How are you ...? I have been very Bz, and been all over the planet this week ... whew, working 4 weeks in a row ..I need another vacation. I can smell Costa Rica from here..

    Soooo, what are you going to buy ..? Got any idea's yet ..?

    Terry.
  • rminflrminfl Member Posts: 1
    silver sle 13,000 miles, leather,CD, Traction control, Chrome wheels.Located in central florida..... Values please?
    TIA
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Ok, strap em' on .... What's this worth ..?

    99 Ferrari 355 FTS -- silver with the blue guts. Aluminum calipers, colored dashboard, B/GTS upholstered top, with the stitchings in color, steering wheel colored ..and last, but of course not least, the GTS top in Carbon Fiber ... with a mear 8,226 miles ---- and as clean as it was when it left the factory.

    How much.. American money ..

    Terry. :-)))
  • usaf52usaf52 Member Posts: 70
    Went to 2 Buick dealers. Trade in is a 2001 Nissan Frontier,XE KC, auto, a/c, CD ,bed liner, sliding rear window, thousand dollar fiberglass cap on it ,alloy wheels, 13500 miles,,excellent condition. One dealer offered me $10,300 on a trade, the second dealer offered me $11,400. Price of new Buick was the same, so there's a thousand dollar difference in purchase. Second dealer said "the other guy is sandbagging you on the trade-in. I'll take lower profit & move cars"
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Hmmm...

    I assume its never been painted... Never been smoked in, and somehow, amazingly enough, they never got french fry stains on the Italian Lambswool carpets.

    Well, I paid liek $78K for my 355, but it is a 1996. And it is Red, and it has Scuderia Sheilds on the front fenders =P

    Silver is so-so on those I think. Not Nero (Blue) or Titanio Grigio (Grey).... Hmmm...

    Id have to think right around $110kish is where it strikes me. But these are all over da place.

    OK, I have a Puzzler for YOU!

    What did a 2003 SL500 with 181 miles on it do?

    Bill
  • ceciltcecilt Member Posts: 45
    the new G35 to be exact but don't know much about how infiniti resales. Do they loose a huge amount of value(like American) or are they as good as say BMW, Audi, MB, Volvo etc. What bells and whistles are expected on entry level luxury cars. Do they really get you more at resale time-about 3 years later and 75k ticks on the odometer by having all the extras. Thanks
  • peachtree103peachtree103 Member Posts: 182
    What AM I buying? Good Question.

    Most likely a Grand Cherokee. Just concerned about finding a cherry low miler here in the big ATL (egads, not this discussion again). I like the 98 because it's already suffered the last model year depreciation. I'm scared of the 99's with their reliability. A 2000 is within the realm of possibility, but could be hard to find one much cheaper than the new ones, that have a 100K powertrain warranty and $2500 incentive money. I think we call moving from a $15K 98 to a $30K 02 bracket creep...

    Confusing the issue is that I have to find a car for my mother. She wants an X5, but people in hell want ice water. Now she's talking Oddessey minivan (big diff). She may end up with the GC, which has me moving up the sedan shopping. I agree that the LS V8 is the best bargain. I'm not ready for the Jag image, even though price could be close. LS400 would be great, but I'm not an AARP member. (so why am I looking at a Lincoln?). Passat? Hmm.

    Short answer (too late), Will get into shopping mode tomorrow, and probably have a better idea (more questions) early next week.

    I will, however, give you $25K for that 355... I might can up that if the Blue Devils come thru for me.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Tough call.

    The I30 is doing pretty well, the Q45 has traditionally been about as smart to buy new as a Kia Sephia, Hyundai Sonata, Cadillac DeVille, Lincoln COntinental or Buick.

    QX4s are fair...

    But G20s seem to do pretty well. It all depends on what the market thinks of the car. If its a hit (As I think it will be) you'll be in and around 55% after 3 years.

    But too soon to call my friend...

    As far as equipment goes, DO NOT get a stupid color. That Magenta may look cute, but its' the Black/Tan in the North, Pearl White/Beige or Silver, Champagne...etc...

    Play it safe there. Ask the people who bought Purple Jag XK8s back in 98/99 how it feels to cost them $3K++ instead of going with Topaz, White, Sapphire Blue, Carnival Red or Silver.

    Keep it out of the body shop.

    Options? Roof, Leather, CD. All a must. Watch those little sticks between the seats that you have to keep moiving back and forth to change gears. They help you not as a general rule

    Hope this helps!

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    GC is good way to go used.

    But as far as a Car... A Jaguar Vanden Plas is nicer, cheaper, and at least as reliable.

    OK, so it isnt as quiet, but its more fun to drive (Sorry Quentin but you knew my opinion already :) To me, the LS400 is like driving a well-controlled Town Car.. it makes me feel ollld.

    Odyssey pays not to buy used. 99s bring dumbass money.

    The 355 for $25K? Sure! Lemme just douse it with gas and throw a Grenade at it first ;-D

    Seriously, $25K buys ya a nice Mondial or 8V 308. Or a classic 330GTE 2+2 if you're brave.

    Bill
  • ceciltcecilt Member Posts: 45
    and for your comments. The last comment you made about the stick I want to clarify. I have an auto now in a BMW but am considering getting a 5/6 speed in my next 330i or G35. Does the stick help, hurt or just make it a little harder to sell. Thanks again
  • qwallsqwalls Member Posts: 406
    No problem, I AM old compared to you. :-) (38) The LS400 may not be sporty, but that V8 has plenty of spunk, and I still have the '93 Honda when I want road noise, and a bit better handling. :-) I know most people consider the LS400 a boring car, but it's a NICE boring car. :-)

    Q
  • ghuletghulet Member Posts: 2,564
    Bill sez stick is bad on resale. It's true, but if you love stick and don't mind a thousand off at resale, I say go for it (and some cars are so rare with stick that people will actually look for them, IMO).
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... He's right/your right .. they run cold -- and at trade time, it can be like having "Chicken pox" ... But you will get that guy our gal that just went through some kind of life change and think "Oooh it's spring, and I want to power out this summer" ..and off it goes.

    Then they get the "chicken pox" when they go to trade it in . l..o..l..

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ...... Hey, good shot on the 355..will make a "Car dog" out of you yet.. l..o..l..

    I got no-saled at $117, needed $122 to break out. It's a blessing in disguise, I'm sure. Another vehicle for me to put in the AARP, I haven't sold much through them ... l..o..l.....

    I have no Idea what a 03 SL with 181 miles will do. I can't even tell ya what a 03 with 262 miles will roll for, it was the D. silver..2 wood pack, sunshade..$94,500 MSRP, it no-saled at $96,900 -- Oooooh, Pretty vehicle ..!

    Terry.
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    You missed one (mine.) For a couple friends; they've got a '99 Accord EX-L auto, blackberry, gray leather, 45k. They're almost exactly 3 years into a 5 year/15k/year lease (I've already dope-slapped them for that, don't worry) and want to trade for an Odyssey (rugrat on the way; they're going to buy this time; smart move.) Where would you guys hit this car, wholesale/retail? It's in the Kansas City area.

    Now, since you missed my question a couple days ago, off to your rooms! LOL.
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    Maybe I should ask Sobers' House of Hondas on this one... :-)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Quite whining ..gheeez, I been on the run all week long, 4 auctions in 4 days -- gosh, I leave for a few days to make a little gas money for my boat ..and everyone complains.

    By the way, where is Sobers ..? He's usually good for 30/40 visits a week ..l..o..l...

    This is that kinda purple like color with the gray guts ..45klicks.

    If it's nice (you know the routine) miles, uuh,ok - ... deep in rubber, looks 01, stands out of the crowd -- on the trade side, it should do the hi $13's low $14's -- if they swing retail, start it up at $16,500, and take that 1st $15,7/$15,9/$16,100 ... Go Chiefs ..!

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Food for thought .. before you spend the Xtra bread on a G35, ya may wanna catch the Altima 3.5S. I bought a black one yesterday .. I really think Nissan/Infiniti has hit the target on this one, and a lot less cake than the G.

    Terry.
  • lancerfixerlancerfixer Member Posts: 1,284
    Sorry to be a boatus interruptus...lol.
    Yeah, the car is in really nice shape. I'll let 'em know (I'm going down there next month for the Royals/Red Sox games...)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Ok, did I read that post right ..?

    You wanna put $25 large on the 355, not a problem.

    I can get you a little LTerm financing and keep your payments around $2,300 a month --- does that fly for you ...? l..o..l.. will that be cash or check ..?

    Terry. :-)
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... Ok, did I read that post right ..?

    You wanna put $25 large on the 355, not a problem.

    I can get you a little L Term financing and keep your payments around $2,300 a month --- does that fly for you ...? l..o..l.. will that be cash or check ..?

    Terry. :-)
  • peachtree103peachtree103 Member Posts: 182
    Bill,

    I agree about the Vanden Plas, but It's more of the image thing that's the hang up. I'm still relatively young (32) and self employed. I was meeting with my banker this morning about my commercial loans, and told him I was in the car market. "No problem, send me the invoice". So I said, Jim Ellis (Porsche) will have you one over in 45 minutes. He wasn't amused. Even though the $ are very similar, a Lincoln LS won't raise eyebrows. A Jaguar will. I was formerly on the other side of the banker's desk. The image you send the banker says a lot about your chances of approval on the larger requests.

    Terry - I'll go $30,000 for the Ferrari. You don't ask, You don't get. Right? (I know, I don't get...) Imagine my banker's face when I show him my almost new 355....
  • mookie14mookie14 Member Posts: 252
    can someone respond to 5912 thanks.
  • ceciltcecilt Member Posts: 45
    up on the Altima but 3 things bother me and not necessarily in this order but they are 1)FWD 2)the interior is not on par with entry level luxury 3) going from a BMW to a Nissan I think would be a step back(not just in terms of brand image but the whole package that BMW offers-I do not say this to offend you are anyone buying one). For the power you get from the Altima I agree it is a great value. I hope you truly enjoy it. If the first 2 above were reversed than #3 above would not mean much at all to me.
  • ceciltcecilt Member Posts: 45
    I understand now. Since BMW charges $1200 for an auto than losing $1k-1,500k at resale is a wash but I feel may just take a little longer to sell. If Infiniti offers a stick in the fall on the G35 and it is not cheaper than the auto(like the '02 Maxima) then I agree, go w/ auto for resale unless the stick makes me happier knowing it may cost me $1k to be happier at resale.
  • karynckarync Member Posts: 2
    Bill-
    Thanks for the response. Super clean -- don't know what that means. The tires are so-so, but otherwise it's clean -- no dents, scratches, dings -- nothing. No cigarette burns, leather in good shape and it has all the toys. I hate to let this car go, but it has broken down 4 times since November. This last one was a blown head gasket (all covered under my extended warranty) and I have been carless for a week (single mom with a two-year-old and no family in the area) so I need something more dependable.

    70K miles is a guess. I'll have to look. Is that a lot?

    Color is white with grey interior. It's had two owners. The first owner was a serious car buff and he kept it very clean.

    $4K seems low, according to the black book and even the blue book, actually. Is this an unpopular car? Is that in U.S. dollars?

    Thanks,
    Karyn
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    .... I'm not sure of what all the other stuff was ..

    It's a 00 XLS, so I will guess the miles are in the 20's and it's super "jam up" .. right ..?

    If so, the vehicle is worth in and around the $21/$22's on a trade.

    I think I answered this ..?

    Terry.
  • rroyce10rroyce10 Member Posts: 9,332
    ..... l..o..l.. -- I bought the 3.5 for a customer ..and drove it home from the auction, I just think it's a lot of vehicle for $$. I just can't see the Mega money difference from the Infiniti G35 ...

    I do understand the Bimmer mentality (it's a gotta have) .. I also bought a 01 740iL with 7K, it's a wonderful vehicle .. at a wonderful price.

    Terry. :-)
  • peetertpeetert Member Posts: 124
    here's a copy of post #5910. I was hoping to look at these cars Sat. The location is northern NJ.

    Peeter

    There's a couple of 2000 s40's listed at a local Volvo dealer. The invoice and msrp are as follows

    msrp invoice
    Blackberry $25,625 Contact Us
    Silver Metallic $25,252 $23,461
    Midnight Metallic $25,225 $23,434
    White $23,975 $22,369
    White $23,475 $21,904

    What would be a good starting point.
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    $4,000 US.. that's what it is worth wholesale. I.E. If I took your car to a dealer auction, I'd expect to get $4,200-4400 ish out of it. (And then pay the $175 fee..etc...transport..)

    70K isnt low.. and it isnt high... its about average for a 96.

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Jeez...

    NEW 2000 MODEL YEAR CARS? Who is in charge of THEIR Inventory? A Crackhead?

    OK.. What, they're ex service loaners with 4-5K miles on em? Or..If they are new, like no more than a few hundred miles...

    Shoosh... MAYBE they'd have a wholesale value of.. Help me here Terry... $18K maybe?

    What would that car do across the block ya think? So whats retail? $20-21K?

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    $117K? This is yours? Hmm.. Gotta retail there I think, I see a lot of em sell for more than that. Stick in the Ferrari Market letter. I have done well there.

    Wanna buy my 96? I can do it for.. $90K :))

    Hey, that SL500.. $110K

    =O

    Bill
  • im_brentwoodim_brentwood Member Posts: 4,883
    Im 27 :)
  • JPhamJPham Member Posts: 148
    Someone was asking about Infinitis ?? ;)

    The ES300 fell thru, the hi-mile '00 I30 was gone
    by the time I got to it (rats), and I think the
    '95 J30 will be there for a while.
    Now I'm getting ready to jump on this:
    '95 Q45, gold/champagne, clean, 69k ... asking $12.9 in NoCal. I think $11.5 is more reasonable ... what do you think?

    Thanks.

    JP
  • gregorycjohnsogregorycjohnso Member Posts: 30
    My friend's boss wants to sell his:

    Grey 2001 Toyota Camry Solara auto ragtop with 5k?/7k? (Low miles)

    It's in Ft. Lauderdale, he's considering driving it to Atlanta to sell at CarMax.

    Where would you hit it?

    -Greg

    BTW, Bill, please check your AOL mail.
  • soberssobers Member Posts: 496
    Heres one for you Terry!

    99 Accrod EX 4 cyl, Auto, New Shoes, GREEN((!!), Certified stuff with 29,000 miles. No damage. One minor ding
  • mookie14mookie14 Member Posts: 252
    you r way off i hope it was if you look at message 5912 you see that im deep well not really. but i can deal with this just need some coaching and sound advice. in a nutshell after i payoff the lease or rollover some equity negivity that is can i tradeout and message 5912 thanks.
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