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Mackabee
Mackabee
p.s. *this is only my opinion and does not reflect the experiences you may have had when you purchased your car.
Well I am of the opposite sex (opposite to women, that is), I do smile a lot, and if I turn around I can show lots of cleavage. Could I be an F&I guy at your store?
Bob
Mackabee
Vic
Mackabee
Mackabee
:lemon:
Mack- if money was no object, sign me up. Although, when I bought my last Ody for MSRP, The dealership had me convinced they were doing me a favor. *sigh*
Go BLUE!!!
I need somthing that can handle that car load every now and then, and safety is a concern which is why I was thinking the XC90.
What would you recommend ole' wise one *headtilt*
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Mackabee
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Mackabee
Out of my price range. *sob* Nice car though, in my next life I will marry better *grin*
I need to stay on the left side of the 30s *shrugs*
Obviously you know even less about reading and answering posts than you know about sports history ..... if you can't contribute then don't bother posting ....
Terry.
Thanks for the advice Howard...but don't get angry. Not everyones opinion coincides with yours. I know....lifes not fair is it? I was perfectly content ignorning your "opinionated" posts ...until you called me out with that childish remark you made. I suspect antagonistic remarks like yours is why this topic discussion will be closing.
(no winkey eye emotorcon for you)
Or does each individual salesman get limits on how low they can go based on experience and volume?
I am just curious, that as a customer should we seek out the "more" seasoned salesman since perhaps they may have a larger window to negotiate a deal before getting approval from the sales manager?
The whole idea is rather simple....land a customer on a car they will buy and get a commitment once they make an offer. not alot of back and forth and it can be rather quick and hassle free if you have an educated buyer who is ready to pull the trigger.
In a large domestic store with closers and towers, the salespeople, other than fleet and internet have no say whatsoever.
In my store which is small with a huge (ha) staff of 4 salespeople. We can sell cars at EDMUNDS TMV and that is about it anymore discount we have to get manager approval.
Someone like ISELL, I would think that he has some authority on pricing vehicles. But that doesnt always mean you will get the biggest discount either. BUT most successful salespeople "know when to hold em and when to fold em" meaning sometimes you can hold gross, but sometimes its better to take the mini and get the metal down the street. Also a seasoned salesperson, will value your time (because if he/she is succesful you are not the only car he/she is going to sell that day) and will determine your needs and get to the point. Happy shopping!
Hey, here's a strange bit of trivia ... I just checked both our profiles and it says we both joined April 13, 2001. That's too coincidental ... maybe we were both around before that, but edmunds didn't start keeping track of us till that date ... (?) ... Aaaanyhoo... moving on.
EDIT: oh, that must be it. Just checked Terry's and Mackabee's profiles and they also joined April 13, 2001. Geez, now I'm really wondering how long we've all been burning our time on these boards.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
If the salesman has to go to the sales manager to get an OK on your offer, then you see the salesman as a friend trying to help you get the best possible deal.
The dealers want you to think like that, so that is why they have the salesman running back and forth to the sales manager.
'11 GMC Sierra 1500; '98 Alfa 156 2.0TS; '08 Maser QP; '67 Coronet R/T; '13 Fiat 500c; '20 S90 T6; '22 MB Sprinter 2500 4x4 diesel; '97 Suzuki R Wagon; '96 Opel Astra; '11 Mini Cooper S
Personally, I don't care for it. I want to be "Mrs. Last Name" at least at first greeting, and quite possibly throughout the transaction. It seems like almost every salesman jumps right in with the first name thing as if I were their long-lost friend, unless it happens to be a young salesperson right out of college. Then they seem to think about it a bit, probably because of the age difference.
Once someone starts calling me "Bianca" it feels rude to say "that's Mrs. xxx," but if someone starts in with the last name, eventually I can say "Oh, do please call call me Bianca," which seems like a nicer direction to go in.
Do the sales manuals address this in how you should greet your customers?
Oh GAWD. I am a girl, and I should be offended by that comment, but I have worked with aftermarket girls that perpetuated that stereotype. Now, I am cute and bubblely, but I am smart and educated on my product and never used my *ahem* cleavage to make a sale.(Okay maybe once but he was cute ha ha ) Now I am an anomolie as a female in the car business. And this is all rather tongue and cheek and stereotypical, but we as salespeople are stereotyped all day long in this board.
Women in the car business are either total B-words total man haters. Or they are just cute as can be with cleavage and highlights to boot, and they mess up, like wreck cars on while getting lunch, speaking of lunch, usually its around 2 hours, know nothing about the product, but its okay cause she is just so dang cute......
As far as how we are trained to greet someone it should go something like this: "Welcome to ABC Motors, My name is Dan and you are?" If you say Ms. Smith, than I would probably refer to you as Ms. Smith until you inform me otherwise.
I bought my last car from a young salesman who used Mrs. from the start. Maybe coincidence, maybe that I felt I was treated better there.
Didn't hurt that the dealership had exactly the car I wanted, of course.
I think that calling someone Mr. or Mrs. [your name here] conveys a level of respect that you can never get when you use someone first name. I think it is sad that that type of respect is missing today.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
I don't think it has anything to do with car sales at all. It's just normal every day life.....
If someone introduces themselves to me (no matter where it is, in any situation) by their first name, I presume that to mean they want me to call them by their first name. Otherwise they wouldn't have offered up that information.
If they say "Mrs. Smith", then naturally I'd call them Mrs. Smith. If they "Dr. Jones" then I'd call them Dr. Jones or just Doctor.
Bianca: Conversely, If the salesperson introduced themselves as "David Williams", would you call them Mr. Williams until they told you to "just call him David"? Even if they were older than you?
If I meet someone at a party or social event, that's different, I'd assume everyone is on first-name basis. But in a professional context, if someone wants me to turn over a large pile of money in return for a product, then I like to use last names at least until we've established more than just a passing relationship.
The insurance underwriter would have a fit if they saw that.<<
When I bought my car, they gave me a tour of the Service write up area, not the service bays themselves.
Heck, I was almost "fully vested"! I want my seniority back!
It won't do any good for retirement. Companies will do away with all retirement plans-you're on your own.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
ok...I did my carspace so plz join and add your name to my friends list. I will load more pics over the weekend.
When I was a salesperson I always got a kick out of these folks. I immediately would refer to them as Mr. or Mrs X. After two or three times I always got the name and a few chuckles.
I think the written version of his new name is some kind of odd symbol and the pronunciation sounds like two metal pots being banged together.
Everyone has seen someone who is just browsing bolt at the first sign of a salesman. They are too afraid to talk to them or something.
On more then one occasion I have had people who pulled up in serious cars, 750IL-760IL', XJ8's and A8's bolt at the first sight of me.
I would expect that most of the people that have the money to buy one of those vehicles should be a bit more agressive and not so timid around one little salesman. You pretty much have to be in order to make that kind of money unless you were born into it.
I actually saw one guy who pulled up in a 750IL left it idiling with the door cracked open. I was in my office and didn't see him at first but once I did I stepped out side to say hi. My office is about 40 or so feet away from where he parked and he was looking at cars a few more feet beyond that. I had covered about half the distance when he saw me and I waved. He looked at me then looked at his car door and actually sprinted for the car before I was even in talking distance.
Funniest thing I have ever seen just about then threw it into reverse and left. It was not anyone I have ever talked to before, so I could not possibly have pissed him off in the past and not realized it and I was not close enough to offend them with any possible foul breath either.
Well recently went to a dealer and told the salesman "No thank you I am just looking, I don't want to waste your time". The guy pressed it then coped an attitude when I wouldn't give him any more information other that I was just looking.
2011 Hyundai Sonata, 2014 BMW 428i convertible, 2015 Honda CTX700D
Possibly. Or, it could be the guy already has enough stress in his life.
As a consumer, I was in a similar situation as you described. I pulled into a dealership lot, there were 4 or 5 salesmen just standing around...as if scanning for possible prey. The "up" guy noticed me pulling in, and immediately went into an all out sprint...running towards my car like a lion after a wildebeest(though smiling and waving). I was like, "Do I owe this guy money?". Nope...I do a Jim Rockford half doughnut in their parking lot, and I am out of there. I can appreciate a enthusiastic and friendly salesperson, but come on salespeoples...let's keep it real.