Volvo S80

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  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    Couldn't resist with just 16,900 miles on the odometer. Paid $19,500. (Original MSRP was $45K+). Options include DSTC, 4-CD changer, Homelink, premium & winter pkgs. Ball joint replacement has been done under recall, but not transmission software upgrade (?). Still about 60 days left of original factory warranty, so I can get 3yr/100K Volvo Total Care Increased Protection if I buy it by September 1. Local dealer has quoted me $1855 for $200 deductible. Anyone know a dealer where I can get a better price?
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    Prices for those plans is negotiable - try any Volvo dealer for a quote, take the best one - but GET THE WARRANTY ON THAT CAR!!!!! Pay whatever you have to.....trust me.
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    I do plan to contact other dealers, but was wondering if anyone had a target price for this warranty. Is what I've been quoted so far high or low? I think $200 deductible is the way to go. Thoughts on this?

    I know this ain't no Camry. But for the price I paid ($19.5K including extra set of Gislaved snow tires), I have a lot of room for an extended warranty or repairs. My '98 S70 GLT was not exactly cheap to maintain, but gave me 150K of really enjoyable driving. (In fact, 2nd 75K miles were more trouble-free than the first).

    Also, this is a third vehicle for me. Other two are Toyotas :)
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    Well, 1) yes, I think the price you are quoted is about average, I would personally go for a $50 deductible though. I think you'll use it a lot - and

    2) I'm not knocking the car, I love the S-80. I was just referring to the year 2000, which was more trouble prone than those that came after. Still were working out early bugs. But the car is awesome, the design is great, and the interior is best in class. Most comfortable sedan I've ever sat in. I think you did great! Just get the warranty!
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    I agree. In a perfect world this would have been a 2001 for the same price. (For the de-powered airbags, if nothing else. Don't know how over-blown that was, though). And, based on my research, I wouldn't have even considered a '99. Nonetheless, I'm excited, and consider this car well-bought.

    I've always liked the looks of the S80. This one is white (best early color IMO) with Taupe/Light Taupe. It's a great car for a tall person. Wonderful seats. And it's silly fast.

    I didn't even get a quote for the $50 deductible, as the dealer's price for the $100 was $2,250, and I'm not willing to go over $2k.

    My dealer claims the $1,855 quoted for $200 deductible includes 10% discount because they sold the car new and have serviced it since. If I can find a better price and/or deductible, I'll give them a chance to match it.
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    Wow, then that sounds a bit high to me, but I've not priced a Volvo warranty, so perhaps I'm off base. But I would call a couple of other Volvo dealers, even if they're a ways away and get a quote.

    Your car is exactly like my business partner's 01 in color and configuration. A beautiful car! Congratulations!
  • tmex12tmex12 Member Posts: 15
    My 2000 S80 is due for the 53000 service (I have the service light coming on already). Just called up the dealership and they quoted $300, which I think is pretty steep.

    Can I get away with using a non Volvo dealership for this service? They confirmed that the service only involves - oil change, filters, tires alignment and tire pressure.

    NVBanker/VolvoMax can you guys help with alternative suggestions?
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    I only ever used the dealer for major repair or maintenance items, like timing belt, etc. My dealer charges an astounding $49 for an oil change-- and the filter is only six or seven bucks. I always use my local lube&detail shop do the oil changes for $21.95.

    I pointed out to my Volvo 'service advisor' that Toyota dealers don't charge their hourly rate for an oil change, but instead offer a drive-in 'express' service for $21.95. The point was lost on him.
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    Well, I've spent the better part of today on the phone shopping for an extended warranty for this four-year-old S80 with 17,000 miles on it. The quotes are all over the map, as well as the level of knowlege & BS I was given. Several dealers told me (correctly) that this car qualifies for a new-car warranty extention, due to the fact there is still time remaining on the original 48mo/50K warranty. Another said (incorrectly) that there would be a $215 surcharge because the car is 'used,' and coverage won't begin until they examine the car--for which I will be charged one-hour of labor! No Thanks.

    Quotes for $100 deductible ranged from $2,715 to $2,015. Busines manager with the lowest quote said I can shave off a few more bucks if I offer to pay by check instead of credit card, so I think he's within $200-300 of his cost. I pick up the car from the seller tonight. Woo Hoo!
  • lev_berkovichlev_berkovich Member Posts: 858
    Here is an actual contract figures for So Cal.

    $2265 - 3 years 48K miles (I drive a lot - at least 20K a year), "Platinum coverage" - basically everything you can think off, "disappearing" $50 deductible, meaning, that if I fix a car at the issuing dealer, I do not pay deductible, otherwise - $50.

    I have signed mine at 49,950 miles and 2.5 years of the ownership.

    I could do better if:

    -choose bigger deductible
    -sign it earlier (at least before 49K).

    So, your figures should be much better, as you choose $100 deductible and your car have just 17K miles.
  • lev_berkovichlev_berkovich Member Posts: 858
    A correction - my plan is called Gold Plus, not Platinum.

    I would never know...
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Since the car is out of warranty you can do whatever you want. Just keep records.

    the 52.5k service isn't a major one, the 60k is.
  • tdogtdog Member Posts: 4
    Hello,
    In testing the S80 2.5T AWD I find the lumbar area of the leather seats seems to just out into the small of one's back, even with the lumbar support knob turned all the way to the "off/least support" position. Maybe I'm just not used to those seats, but the S60 seats felt more comfortable.

    Has anyone else experienced some discomfort or "getting used to" those S80 seats? Thanks!
  • gfr1336gfr1336 Member Posts: 1
    I have just incurred my third cracked windshield on my 2002 Volvo S80 sedan, which has about 42,000 miles on it. Each time I have had the windshield replaced at a Volvo dealership. Since I have owned Volvos for 20 years and never had a problem with a cracked windshield before, this does not seem right to me. I was wondering if other Volvo S80 drivers are experiencing cracked windshields ?.
  • tdogtdog Member Posts: 4
    Oops I meant to say they seem to JUT out...
  • kiiwiikiiwii Member Posts: 318
    How did you get the crack? Stones? I have heard that if the car has frame problems, the windshield would crack easily.
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    Personally, the seats in the S-80 are perfect for me, and the finest seats in the world - one of the great selling points of the car.

    I have had cars that have had one broken windshield after another, and others that have had none. But it all seemed to be the luck of the draw, or the rock, shall we say.
  • derekchoyderekchoy Member Posts: 36
    There have been a lot of discussion lately on extended warranty. Let me share my experience..

    I have a 99-model (manufactured in late 98 so this must be among the first few batches of S80 ever produced), everyone is staying away from it (I bought it new). To me, the car has been great. I've had my fair share of problems but at 93k, it's running wonderfully well. In fact, it has less problems than a BMW and an Audi that's also sitting in my garage. Also, I had most of my problems before 40k and my dealer fixed every single one of them satisfactorily, my 40-93k has been relatively trouble-free.

    I bought an extended warranty at 45k and it's covering the car till 100k. It cost me around $1900 with $200 deductible.

    The only occasion I had to use it was at around 80k when my front suspension was making some clunking noise (it wasn't the sub-frame recall which I did. This is just the suspension wearing out). The whole front spring/absorber set was replaced under warranty and I paid $200 for a $1100 job (I was told).

    The S80 is a great car (even the 99 model) and I like it more than any car I own. Happy driving!
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    Is your 99 a T-6? If so, how's the turbo and the motor holding up? Any oil consumption? Other engine problems? The T-6 is the model I like, but I live in hot climates, and am concerned about how it would hold up long term in the heat.
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    I'm leaning toward the $100 deductible VIP for which I was quoted $2,015. Zero ded is additional $760. I'm aware of the issues that can plague this car, but don't think 'zero' is the best value. I love this car! It was a late 2000 model (purchased in October of that year), so I'm hoping for the best.
  • derekchoyderekchoy Member Posts: 36
    Mine is a 2.9 and I've had no problem with the engine itself in my entire ownership. The only broken item that was remotely related to the engine was that the engine mount (or one of the mounts) broke at around 35k. I didn't notice any vibration, the service advisor told me that it was broken and he replaced it at no cost to me.

    My 2.9 drank a little bit of oil in the first 2000-3000 miles and has stopped since (at least I don't notice any drop in oil level between oil change). I live in SF and it can be quite hot over the summer here and I've had no problem.

    Good luck!
  • doctordickdoctordick Member Posts: 36
    I have a 99 T6 that I love. Have had problems but no more so than with others. (I was luck and did not get bad engine-tranny problem.)

    But now, at over 90K I have a gremlin in the monitoring system. The "check engine" (emission problem), "ABS brake", and "STS" warning lights go on individually or in various combinations, and then "heal" themselves only to reappear. Anyone run into this and how did you fix it. I plan on giving this car to one of my children with children, and needless to say I don't want to put offspring or grandkids at risk!

    Also, just bought new V70 for my lady and a new S80 T6 for me. I thought it might be useful to get extended warranties for both. Any suggestions??

    Is there a list of the different choices on the adjustable displays? I want 24 hour clock, but what others stuff can be adjusted??

    Thank you all out there. You have been most helpful to me, and I hope to each other in the past.

    doctordick
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    I wouldn't buy the extended warranties until the factory warranty is about to expire. You can buy the Volvo Increased Protection (New Car) Plan up to one month before the expiration of the original 4year/50K factory warranty (or before you hit the mileage limit, if that's sooner). So I'd wait and make sure you like the car(s), and plan to keep the car(s).
  • lev_berkovichlev_berkovich Member Posts: 858
    But be careful, you have to buy it before the 49K miles to get better pricing. I have bought it at 49950 and have paid, according to the dealer extra $150 - $200. I have tendency to believe it, because the finance manager of that dealership was a personal friend, and we have spent quite a bit of time, researching different options together.
  • lev_berkovichlev_berkovich Member Posts: 858
    I think I can shine some light on those gremlins - the first problem is very likely caused by the bad gasket of the fuel tank cap, or you might not tight that cap all the way some time.

    The ABS/STS combination is very likely caused by the minor leak in the vacuum system of the ABS. There is a back pressure pump there, and if pressure drops, it turns on to keep that back pressure in the system.
    Once pump is turned on ten times, it causes for the ABS/STS lights to come up. The counter is reset, when you turn the engine off after that. That is why it disappears on its own for a while. But then, after ten times, it comes up again.

    This problem started on my 2000 S80 2.9 at about 50K, and the leak was so minor, that the lights will come up once every few month. But over time, it start to appear more and more frequent, and when it has reached the point when it will come up every few days, I had my ABS control module replaced at 80K miles ($900 parts and labor) under the extended warranty.

    To summarize - I think neither of the problems constitutes immediate risk, and with the first one I will buy a new fuel tank cap and try it. With the second one - if lights are not come up more often than once every few days and you do not have an extended warranty - will wait till it's become more prominent - otherwise - it's a reason to see you mechanic and check the control module.
  • derekchoyderekchoy Member Posts: 36
    Thanks a lot for the information. I have exactly the same symptom on my 99 S80 2.9. The ABS light will come on (and stay on) once in a while, usually on my way to work. Then I would park the car and go to work. When I get off work and start the car, the warning light is off. I was thinking of some sort of faulty sensor and it's happened twice so far. I guess the leak theory makes sense.

    Next time I bring it in for service, I'll have my service advisor check out the leak. I'm at 94k so my extended warranty is almost over. I've got to get this fixed soon!

    Thanks.
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Our '04 S-80 2.9 is about to celebrate it's first birthday and second set of lugnuts. Actually they are bolts but have a nasty habit of corroding first to a white ash, then to well...rust. The dealer supposedly replaced them the first time but six months later here we go again. We have the Premium package with 17 inch rims. We live in FL and are subject to salt air but not harsh ice-melting salt. Is there no cure for this accelerated corrosive melanoma?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Yes, buy some chromed lug nuts.
  • oldmanoldman Member Posts: 35
    One would think that Volvo ought to get serious about this cheap lug nut annoyance. The Chromium plating, or copper underplating obviously is too thin, such that a few wrench cycles knocks it off to expose raw iron underneath. The problem is just brain dead stupid. Why does Volvo (Ford) endure it from that supplier? I'd say to them "YOURE FIRED"!
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Volvomax,

    I have exhausted all sources and am unable to locate anyone that carries aftermarket chromed or even OEM lug-bolts (other than the dealer) for our '04 S-80 w/17" Stentors. Being the all knowing entity that you are, can you disclose a valid source?

    Seems a shame the recommended oil change interval exceeds the life expectancy of the lugs...

    89,847 miles to go on the Volvo zero deduct 100K warranty and it looks like it doesn't cover corrosion-humph! This should be a recall not a mass whine session IMHO.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    You'll have to get them from your dealer, they don't cost much.

    FWIW, I agree that the cheap bolts they fit to the S80 are disappointing. Someone decied that if they could save a couple bucks a car it would be worth it.
  • edweimedweim Member Posts: 2
    I have a warranty question. I found a used 2004 S80 that was originally pruchased in Aug of 2003. Was the Volvo warranty at that time 50K miles or 36k miles?
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Volvo warranty has been 4 yrs or 50,000 miles since 1995.
  • edweimedweim Member Posts: 2
    Thanks for the reply!! I think I was getting mixed up with the 36k mile maintenance warranty.
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    Ponder this: Volvo OEM factory 'rust prone' lug bolts are $3.36 each x 20 per car or $67.20 total. Since I've already had ours replaced twice in 10K miles under warranty that's about $135 Volvo has wasted due to lack of corrosion protection. The dealer suddenly found the chrome versions (in stock) for $5 per lug or $100 per set, about $33 more per set than factory originals. Is it reasonable to assume Volvo will pay for the slightly more expensive chrome version as replacements simply because they rust less than half as often or not at all (TBD)? Makes good economic sense to me and to avoid the hassle and actually solve the problem instead of spending a fortune in routine replacement. I might volunteer to pay the extra $1.64 per lug or $33 myself if all else fails. Thoughts/feedback before I accost the service manager? I hope my dealer doesn't read Edmunds or I'm out three Hamiltons, LOL.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    What you propose makes sense to you and I but not in the realm of automotive accounting.
    If we talk only about the US Volvo's your dealing with @ 125,000 vehicles.
    @ $67.20 per set of standard lugs thats $8,400,000.
    The chrome lugs cost $100.00 x 125,000 $12,500,000.
    So, the motor co saves almost $4 million on lugs alone. Now, how many people actually complain?
    Not many, so even if Volvo has to warranty or replace the lugs they still are ahead.
    Personally, I have always hated this approach, but it does make business sense.
  • compcomp Member Posts: 43
    If you get the chrome version please share the part number. I'd be more than happy to replace the sets on both our S80 and XC90. Didn't think Volvo manufactured chrome because of its impact on the environment.
  • dolphindolphin Member Posts: 71
    Doctordick, buy the extended warranty. These cars are expensive to repair. I would go aftermarket, but make sure that it is an insured warranty. (Prevents you from losing your money if they go belly-up like Warranty Gold did to me!) Whilst it was still a vaible company, that warranty paid for itself 2.5 times over.
  • dolphindolphin Member Posts: 71
    Can anyone help with this? Light just came on tonight, along with a check emission system message. Car started running rough near idle, and exhaust stinks. Bringing it in tomorrow to leave at the dealership since no one else has computers for diagnostics on these things. Any ideas?
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    Bad oxygen sensor (one or both) would be my guess.
  • dolphindolphin Member Posts: 71
    Thanks..dealership claims there are 4 of them????
  • heywood1heywood1 Member Posts: 851
    Quite possibly. My S70 has two. I haven't had the replace any on my S80 yet.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    S80 has 2 catalytic converters, each has 2 sensors.
  • chicago2chicago2 Member Posts: 2
    I cannot find a 2004 S80 with AWD and DSTC(Dynamic Stability and Traction Control) in Chicago area. So which is more important (useful) in Chicago winter? Thanks!
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    Well, if you have to choose between them, I'd take the AWD.
    DSTC doesn't provide traction, it just helps to keeps you steady and keep you from wiping out if your going faster than conditions warrant.
    If gaining traction is most important go w/ the AWD.
  • lev_berkovichlev_berkovich Member Posts: 858
    Also, remember that AWD has standard TRACS (stability and traction control) build into the system. It is less sophisticated than DSTC, but is very effective.
    I agree with Max, get AWD if you can not get both.

    But the best choice is both of them It really is worth of $695.
  • davantdavant Member Posts: 294
    The Volvo 'build your own' doober permits AWD and DTSC. Have you thought of expanding your search area or having one built and picking it up over there? If you're spending this much you should have the choice buy it configured the way you want. DTSC does seem to be useful as it's there when you need it. AWD is the obvious choice if you can't find both.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Member Posts: 5,238
    The problem is the poster wants to take advantage of the year end savings, so that limits what he can get.
    By all means you can have one built to spec and either go the TDS route or regular dealer delivery, but it will be an 05.
  • dolphindolphin Member Posts: 71
    Problem ended up being that they had to replace the the six ignition coils...$$!
  • nvbankernvbanker Member Posts: 7,239
    All 6 of them? Never heard of having to replace them all at the same time before. One or maybe 2, but not all of them. What was the reason for that?
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