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The 5 speed manual Corolla's been a fantastic car; unbelievably reliable, still gets 38 MPG with 201K miles on it, everything still works and the car runs and drives fine, and it's reasonably comfortable. However, I'm getting older and while driving a stick at times is still enjoyable for me, it's a real pain in the [non-permissible content removed] in heavy traffic, so I want my next car equipped with an automatic.
While I like '03 and newer Corollas, I like the '06 and newer Civics better. Not only are they better looking, they just seem to be a better car all around. I absolutely love the Civic's 5 speed automatic. However, I have heard some things about the latest gen Civics that leaves a little cautious about buying one.
Some have said they're reliability isn't up to the levels of the previous gens.
Some have said the 5 speed auto is problematic.
Some have said to stay away from the '06 model because since that was the first model year of the current gen, they were still working out some bugs so it had more problems that later year models.
Is there any truth to any of these statements? Is there anything else about this car I should consider before buying one?
There seems to be more reliability issues with the new Civic compared to previous gens. In terms of reliability, would I be better off just going with say an '04-'06 Corolla?
Thanks
MNF
Does anyone have an idea, a clue maybe, as to why Toyota does not develop a hybrid system for its Corolla?
I know some of you will say Toyota has the Prius line for anyone interested in owning Hybrid tech, but if the automaker can provide Hybrid tech for the Camry then why not for the Corolla too?
It's about time some automaker offered a SMALL vehicle, Yaris sized, with Hybrid. The Honda Civic Hybrid, or regular high mileage HF, are great...but I find Honda's warranty lacking...that's a deal breaker, speaking for myself.
Any 4-1-1 appreciated...
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I don't see much point and I suppose Toyota doesn't either.
Not trying to be flippant. I also have a niche I would like to see filled, but I know it never will be. A Prius that handles better and has a stick shift. I won't hold my breath.
They are coming out with a smaller Prius soon though.
http://www.toyota.com/upcoming-vehicles/priusc/
aladdinsane : The comment about the Honda Hybrid - if you want the best fuel economy, I am not sure why you would by the Honda?
Peace!<=AladdinSane<- :shades:
This is the latest dependability study by JD Powers. It shows that for 2009 models (3 years old), Toyota got more awards (8) than any other maker. #1 Lexus (Toyota) #2 Porsche, #3 Cadillac And Toyota, #4 Scion (Toyota).
Also note - for compact cars, the Prius was #1, #2 COROLLA. That's pretty good, considering the 2009 was the first year of a new generation of Corolla.
And it makes sense when you pair it back to back with the current car. It does carry over design elements, it just does so more aggressively:
http://www.newcarsfor2013.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2013-Toyota-Corolla.jpg- -
BD
Any idea when this new version will be sold?
2014?
That sounds a forever away, especially since I'LL be in the market for new wheels soon.
I could wait for it, but it still sounds as if this new version is far off.
Whatcha think?
Peace!<=AladdinSane<- :shades: -
If the current model's sales tank, then expect an earlier release.
Since the current car has held fast against the many new models on the market, I'd expect it around 2 years from today.
BD
Thanx for the reply.
I appreciate it.
No matter what the naysayers may say I still dig the Corolla "S" and the machine's general simplicity.
I have more to comment on concerning the Corolla, but I don't wish to bore you.
Anyway, thanx again mate.
Peace<=AladdinSane-<- :shades:
Toyota vehicles can launch up to one year earlier in foreign markets, so be on the lookout! :surprise:
BD
All good, though...
And I do appreciate the replies, definitely...
Peace!<=AladdinSane<= :shades: -
I picked up a really nice, one owner '04 Corolla LE with 149K. Before purchasing, I took the vehicle to my mechanic to have him check it out. He gave it the all okay and said he found no problems. I got a good deal...paid $5600 and the Kelly Blue Book is $7500.
As I spend more time driving this car I realize the huge improvements in design over its predecessor. The interior seems huge compared to the '99...not only more leg room up front, but in the back as well. The seat is much more comfortable as well...more lower back and lumbar support. The dash layout and user controls are also more ergo-friendly. One thing I never liked about the '99 was the sloppy suspension. I always said the car "swashbuckled" down the road....lots of body lean in turns, and just in general the suspension always seemed to have too much travel and moved way too slowly. Even with new struts and springs (which I just had installed this spring) it was still sloppy. In contrast, the '04's suspension feels taught (almost sports car-ish), and yet still soaks up bumps better than '99...how is that possible? The '04 is also much quieter, especially on the highway...road noise was always pretty bad in the '99. The '04 is an automatic, the '99 a manual....when I bought the '99 I wanted a manual...when I bought the '04, I wanted an automatic...I like driving a manual, but not in heavy traffic...plus getting older the auto just seems more pleasant to drive to me...
Overall, I have to say I'm amazed at how large of a difference there is between these two models. Don't get me wrong, I loved the '99 and it served me well, but the differences between these two are literally like going from a Yugo to a lexus...I really don't know of any other way to put it....
With the earlier generations of the Corolla (and the Sentra), you were basically paying for a rock-solid engine and transmission, and they threw in a basic, functional interior and everything else. This car has come a long way over the years, from being just reliable transportation to a truly nice vehicle.
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Will the new Corolla be better - no doubt, and it will I am sure come with a new transmission, etc.
But the current one is reliable, fuel efficient, smooth, quiet, and safe. Also, very easy to work on (oil changes, air and oil filter changes).
CVT
100 lb weight loss
30/38 EPA MPG (somewhere around there)
Crisper Styling
More luxury features available like Push Button Start, JBL Audio, Rear view camera, heated seats, etc
My only real question is will Corolla get a hybrid version? Toyota has said EVERY model will have a hybrid version by 2020.
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Well... the new Sentra has only 130 hp, down 10 from 2012, and does have higher FE than the old car... but no better than the 155 hp Mazda3 or 148 hp Elantra, and not much better than the 160 hp Focus... or even the new Altima!
So I am not sure lower hp is the answer, not with the weight of compacts being what it is today because of bigger cars, more safety etc.
3 years from now, by 2015, you won't recognize the engine lineup. The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades! :shades:
But the next Corolla will be lighter, faster, and more efficient. No need to fret now...