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Sure it was not a CE?
When it came down to it, I got the CE manual, because it just was not worth the extra $$ to get the power seat and keyless entry on the LE, which are the ONLY differences between the CE and LE. In my opinion, the only thing that would be nice is the keyless, but you can add that a LOT cheaper than factory. I did not want the power seat. I just can never see an advantage to a power seat??
Anyway, the CE manual is great, although we may get keyless added. I understand it would be $100-200. That is still $600-700 cheaper than the LE.
I would have been OK with the CE, but my wife really preferred the power seats and keyless. Of course the keyless could have been added.
Four months ago I purchased a 2007 V6 XLE Camry. I love this vehicle, and I DO NOT have any of the problems that I see posted on these boards.
Now that I have owned the Camry for four months, I can see some areas that show a difference in "quality", between the Camry, and the 2003 Accord that I previously owned. The one thing that cheapens the look of the Camry is the POOR QUALITY of the CARPET, and my Camry is the XLE model. Thank God, I put the "all-weather" rubber mats on the floor!
The Camry seats are much more comfortable than the Honda Accord, and the vehicle is much easier to drive, because there are no "Blind Spots" in the driver's outside mirror!
Would I go back to Honda in the future? ----- I don't know at this point in time. It would depend on the configuration of the Accord's body style, the ride of the Honda, the comfort of the seats and the current technology being offered by both companies.
I think Honda needs to pay more attention to "COMFORT" in terms of their front seats, the blind spots in their design and the quality of the overall ride. The ride of the Honda Accord is simply TOO HARD. Prior to purchasing the 2007 V6 Camry, I did go out on a test drive of a 2007 V6 Honda Accord. The "quality" of the ride sold me on the Camry!
On the other side of the issue, I think Toyota needs to work on their "quality" in terms of the "transmission issue", and the past "engine sludge issue" that I see posted on these boards. Toyota has put a lot of work into the 2007 Camry, and it would be a "BIG ERROR" on the part of Toyota if they did not resolve the transmsiion issue in a timely / professional manner, and in the process, solve the operational issues for each owner that presently has a problem with their vehicle.
As an owner of a Toyota Camry, I will continue to follow the "trans flare issue". If Toyota DOES NOT take the proper action, and in the process solve this "trans flare issue, I DO NOT think that I would take the chance and purchase another Toyota, even though I like my vehicle, and I DO NOT HAVE the problems at the present mileage. To do so, would open me up to the "luck of the draw" in terms of getting a "qulity vehicle"! I do not want to make a vehicle purchase on that basis!
FUTURE PLANS FOR THIS VEHICLE:
This vehicle will be paid at the end of three years. Since I do an extensive amount of driving, I will have about 66,000 to 70,000 miles at that point in time. If the vehicle has a good trade in value at that point in time, I will trade it for another vehicle. Once the vehicle passes 70,000 miles or more, and goes into the fouth year of ownership, the trade-in value drops. The "goal" is to get out of the vehicle while it still has a maximum value, or then drive it to the limit of the extended 100,000 mile warranty.
Best regards: ------------Dwayne :shades:
Different strokes for different folks... for me, the Accord is a great blend. The Camry drove like a well-made Buick to me, and was as exciting to drive as turning on a washing machine. The Accord has a snarling exhaust at high-rpms, a chassis that likes to be tossed around, and much more responsive...well...everything.
By the way, this was a Camry LE I4 (with options like sunroof, JBL stereo, etc), and a Honda Accord EX I4.
Seats are clearly a matter of personal preference. I like the firm seat in the Accord, and the side bolstering, combined with the 8-way adjustability, makes the seat as comfortable as I would want to be (while not sleeping). A too soft seat, makes me feel less connected to the car. For instance CR commented about how good the Accord driver seat was, and how the Camry seat needed more thigh support. Accord seats have always been firm and supportive, and that's the way I like them. Having gone through back surgery, I know a bad seat, when I sit in one.
Again, that's just what I've read. I haven't been in a Camry since the 2006 *yawn* Camry LE. It's a great car for really bumpy loud roads, but it was the second-most relentlessly boring car I've driven. The MOST boring? A Corolla LE Automatic.
True, there are quieter cars out there but the price is out of sight. Guess my racing daze are over.
You wrote of the Accord, "CR panned it on noise". Road noise is a factor with most vehicles on the road. If someone wants lower road noise from their OEM tires, they have the option of buying quieter ones (with the side benefit of even better handling).
ACTUALLY, Consumer Reports said of the Accord "Our top-rated family sedan has a roomy cabin, agile handling, and a steady, compliant ride. Controls are logically arranged, and a telescoping steering column helps drivers find an ideal position. The automatic shifts very smoothly and responsively. The four-cylinder engine is smoother than many V6 engines. The V6 model is very quick and relatively fuel efficient... Road noise is noticeable."
"Noticeable" is a comment. That's not panning in my book. Actually, CR rated both the Accord and the Camry with half-red circles for noise, Very good on their scale.
I take exception to remarks about tires and noise. I go by the ratings people give on TireRack and when I purchased the tires best rated for quiet and put them on the noisy Vibe, I saw little if any difference going from a cheap Conti to a good Yokahama.
Thanks for the well deserved corrections.
I guess "Midsize Sedans 2.0" took all the glory.
When the 2008 Accord comes out, I imagine this room might get more heated (a more competitive Accord V6 coupled with an already superior Accord 4-cyl powerplant).
I am looking to buy a car and have been contemplating between Camry LE (Sedan) & Accord SE (Sedan).
Have been reading through the Forums and frankly speaking, not able to decide which one is the best although when I weigh the features of the both the models, I am getting more out of Camry LE. Would appreciate your insights on the same.
Also, is Alloy Wheels a must?
I would never buy a vehicle with dreary dark black or gray seats if at all possible. Give me a light and bright interior any time.
The underinline is that you can't really compare the 2007 camry with the 2007 accord, The 2008 accord will come out to compete with the 2007 camry.....the 2008 accord is still has less hp than the camry....official release
http://automobiles.honda.com/2008-accord/?modelname=accord+coupe
http://automobiles.honda.com/2008-accord/?modelname=accord+sedan
I just saw a something on tv saying the new accord had 263 hp. It will be interesting to see how the two compare.
Camry owners love Camrys and Accord owners love Accords. Its pretty hard to compare. How can you convince someone who's favorite color is blue to like the color Green. You probably can't do it.
To be honest, I bet the new model will have "problems" and "issues" like the new Camry and people will complain too.
268hp, 190hp, and 177hp, respectively.
To see how the two compare, check out Motor Trend's comparison of the two vehicles. They ranked the powertrain race an effective tie.
First year models tend to have more issues than the outgoing models that have had years to work out bugs. This is true for all car makes and models.
The news story I saw was incorrect than. Both cars are very nice. I really like the pictures I've seen of the Accord coupe. Toyota is ditching the solara, but in my opinion, should make a Camry coupe. Toyota needs a much sportier coupe than the scion. I understand the Supra is coming back, but it will be too expensive for the average Joe. I'd buy a suped-up Camry coupe.
Thankfully, Honda didn't follow Toyota's lead with that one. It also solved a problem a lot of people had with the previous Accords; there is now a sizeable grill, something not seen in awhile!
BTW, I think Honda has had better styling than the comparable Toyota...but the Element is just as ugly as the FJ Cruiser.
Ah, I must've read wrong too
"Ah, I must've read wrong too . I forgot that styling isn't subjective or anything, and that we all must hold one universally measured view of styling."
MotorTrend says that Accord beats Camry. .. especially in the design and looks department. But what does MotorTrend know about cars ? :P
http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/sedans/112_0710_2008_honda_accord_vs_2007_to- yota_camry
And now, after briefly trying the hexa-grill look on Pilot (when it was launched) Honda is finally trying to establish a family look. And they picked the right basic shape as it can be tied back to the very first Honda cars.
I believe the new Odyssey gets similar treatment. Spy pictures of Fit also suggest the same (although they resemble more to Inspire and other Honda cars/light trucks in Japan than the Accord but basic shape is there). The same can be seen in European Civic (Picture).
Honda actually had this shape going in 2003-2005 Accord, but the approach prevented people from seeing it. This is pretty much like 1998-2002 Accord's grill. Its basic shape is actually a penta-grill, but Honda made it so subtle (likely to avoid resemblance with Acuras, and only in America) that people would normally see it bearing a rectangular theme.
Honda needs to do this. They have been consistent with quite a few design elements for years, yet few people associate those with Honda because they are generally too subtle. A good example is the side crease that extends to the trunk lid and goes to the other side. Honda has used it, at least, since 1996 (Civic, first generation TL, RL, both generation of Accords, second generation Acura CL and so on). This is the first time, however, that the crease doesn't go thru the license plate (or the middle of the trunk lid) but above it.
Another good example is the rear window kink. It emulates a thicker chrome version of the kink that was present in 1996-2000 Civic (Picture), but people generally see the Accord getting it from BMW 5-series.
Its about time for Honda to be more consistent with styling. And I like the direction they took with the new Accord (except that the rear bumper could be a little smaller, and could have shaved an inch or two off the length) and Civic (except for the grill, prefer the Japanese version).
I feel like the Camry is trying too hard to look young and got lost in doing so. It has too much makeup on.
very little, if you take their horrible articles as real journalism.
The best, most respected automotive website could call my favorite car ugly and i would still love it.
at any rate, the camry still looks frumpy, especially when compared to the accord, and the clown nose doesn't help its case. You have every right to love the camry's looks, just as long as you admit that its the 'frumpiness' you love.