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Oldsmobile Alero



  • rdeschenerdeschene Posts: 330
    You wrote:

    the VW Lupo is not a hybrid. Instead, it's a Diesel-powered super-sub-compact car.

    Yes. Exactly. The Lupo is the beginning of high-efficiency conventional vehicles that take advantage of some of the lessons learned from hybrids. For example, I have an engine of 3.4L displacement in my car. Do all cylinders have to be receiving fuel during prolonged stops? Do any?

    Bye for now,
    Rick D.
  • mikey00mikey00 Posts: 462
    When applying the brake on my 2000 Alero I get a sort of thump, click, or snap type of noise from the brake pedal. It's not very loud and I can also feel it in the pedal. Feels like a worn bushing or something in the pedal assembly. Any ideas? (the rotors were replaced 6 months ago per TSB)
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Anyone tested out a 2.2L Alero yet?
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    Cadillac tried in the 80s to selectively shut down some cylinders in a V8 on demand. It proved to be a daunting task for the electronics then. GM is working on getting back to this and an updated implementation of that system will debut in a truck, I think next year.
  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    I drove a GX with the 2.2 last week. It seems to lack low end torque, but was more than adequate. Very smooth and quiet at highway improvement over the 2.4. I drove an automatic, but plan to test one with the 5 speed. Check out Oldsmobile's sport package on the incredible deal. I plan to order one next month. By the way, it took me 5 minutes to locate the oil filter on the 2.2. It is not the canister type, but fits into the side of the crankcase. This should be much easier to change than those of other GM engines!
  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    By the way, the 2002 Alero brochure indicates that Ruby Red is not available in the GX sedan. This is definitely not true, since I have seen them at 3 Olds dealers in the past week. In fact, I test drove one.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    They are advertising 2002 2.2L GX's for cash price of C$19,998. That is an automatic with cruise, air, AM/FM/CD and more. Great deals for sure. If we get a car, that's the one we will lease.
  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    I can't speak for prices in Canada, but that sounds a bit expensive. MSRP for the GX sedan with the features you mentioned is 17800,plus $1000 rebate to the customer. Good luck!
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Actually with the current C$/U$ exchange rate, that works out to be about $13,500 in US$.
  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    Gee, maybe I should buy my car in Canada?! I wonder if I can use my GM card points up there?
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Doubt it. The Canadian program is totally separate from the US one due to the currency issues. If a Canadian dealer sold to you, it would have to be a cash deal most likely. I know people in the Pathfinder forum have been doing that anyway.
  • rdeschenerdeschene Posts: 330
    Yes, I do recall Cadillac's sundry efforts at shutting down cylinders selectively in their early 80's Seville (?). I'm not sure of the particular model.

    Anyways consider, however, where basic technology is now compared to then:

    (1) a great many cars now have control of the ignition and fuel-injection on each cylinder
    (2) in the early to mid-80's, a 25Mhz 286 was an incredibly fast processor. These days, I can get a 900Mhz Athlon for U.S.$80

    I'm aware of GM's attempt to resuscitate this idea in their big trucks, and it'll be interesting to see how well they do. GM, for all its faults, HAS been a driving force of bringing new, practical, (i.e. not necessarily DOHC) features to the large scale market.

    Bye for now,
    Rick D.
  • dr_cmbdr_cmb Posts: 8
    I'm in my 4th month with the GL1 with V6...and finally took a look at the book that came with i. The oil change thing seems weird---when did you other new Alero owners get your first oil change? Did you wait for the light to come on?
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    I had an Alero V6 for 3 years, but it's gone now. Its lease has expired.

    For the 1st oil change, I didn't wait for the computer to tell me so, and had it changed at 3000mls. I figured that the computer might malfunction and I didn't want to take chances right after breaking the engine in, when the engine oil and filter get dirtier.

    After that, however, I followed the computer's advice. Depending on the weather and on my seasonal driving mood :^), it would advise changes between 5000 and 7000mls.
  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    I am planning to purchase an Alero in the next few months. I read about the change-oil light and that it needs to be reset. Is this something that has to be done by a mechanic? I have always changed my own oil...I hope this is not one of those idiot lights like ford used to have.

    I plan to purchase (need) this alero in January. I'm curious when the $2000 rebate may kick in. The current $1000 rebate is supposed to expire 1/15/02. I seem to remember a $2000 rebate for all of 2001 models during the 2001 calendar year. Anybody here buy an alero early this year that got the $2000 rebate. I'd gladly wait a few weeks to get an additional $1000 dollars!
  • hengheng Posts: 411
    when you open the driver's door, at the end of the dash board, there is an access panel. Inside is a red button labeled 'reset'. Following the instructions in the owners manual resets the change oil light.
  • jpelderjpelder Posts: 235
    Has anyone else driven the 2.2L yet? I'd be very interested in any opinions...especially if you drive the 2.2 with the manual tranny.
  • dr_cmbdr_cmb Posts: 8
    I bought my Alero in July and got a $2000 rebate--I'm wondering if the rebates are less now because they are offering 0% financing (that was not offered when I bought--I'm in at 6% I think). Or are you talking about the 2002?
  • dr_cmbdr_cmb Posts: 8
    I meant also to add that with the V6 I'm getting 22 mpg in city driving, about 30 mpg highway.

    I'm happy with this, given the power and pep this car has.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    There was a guy about 15 posts up that tested a 2.2L. I would like to go try one also but have had zero time to do it. If we get a car instead of a van/SUV, it will very likely be a 2.2 Alero.
  • I purchased a 2000 Alero in May,2000. The way my rebate works is it gets reduced from the payoff amount. So when I call for a payoff it is already calculated to be less (with the rebate amount). As far as the 0% financing, I was under the impression that you can't get both (APR reduction AND a rebate). At lease that's what the Olds dealership says.
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    I can confirm the Alero 3.4 MPG, 23 city, about 29 highway, in my case.

    And it sure is peppy! ;^)
  • I have "twin" 2000 Aleros with about 17000 miles on each. In BOTH cars, there is a strange rattle under the hood on the passenger side. It seems that it happens when I am cruising under 20 mph, and only when the A/C is on. If I turn the A/C off, it goes away. Turn it on and it comes back. It is slowly getting worse. It doesn't happen all the time, but when it does happen and I can stick my head under the hood and hear it, it sounds a little "metalic" sounding.

    I have taken BOTH cars in to the dealer. In one case they kept the car for four days, replaced a fuel injector. The rattle is still there. In the other car they just said they couldn't hear it an closed the case.

    Needless to say, I have little faith in car dealer service departments. But since BOTH of my cars have this problem, it would seem that there may be others with the same problem.

    I can't find any TSB summary that seems to address the problem, and a search out here hasn't revealed anything.

    Is anybody else experiencing this with their Alero?

    Thanks. Jeff.
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Are they V6 or 4 cyl models?
  • They are four cyl
  • burdawgburdawg Posts: 1,524
    You said it's when the AC is on only - are you sure it's not just the sound of the AC compressor? Below 20mph the ambient noise is not that high and you may notice the sound more. Is it a sharp metallic rattle (you mentioned a metallic sound) or more of a dull pulsation?
  • evandroevandro Posts: 1,108
    I had a similar problem in my Alero V6. The rattle sounded like a knock. It was the AC compressor, which was replaced under warranty.

    I think that it happened at about the same mileage, but after the service it never happened again.
  • rdeschenerdeschene Posts: 330
    My husband is the one who normally posts here, but I thought I'd add to the discussion an experience I had yesterday.

    We bought a 2000 Alero in August and have been enjoying it ever since. No problems at all till yesterday. I went out to start the car. When I tried to put it in drive, I noticed I couldn't push in the button on the gear shift handle. I released the handle, and the button fell off. (I guess I don't know my own strength.)

    Since I couldn't seem to move the gear shift, I thought the car wasn't driveable, so I called Roadside Assistance. The tow truck was there within minutes. The driver tried the handle and found that if he reinserted the plastic button and pressed it just so, he could get it to shift.

    So, I was able to drive it to the local GM service center. (The dealership where we bought the car is about an hour's drive away.) Everyone who looked at it said, "Well, *that's* weird." One of the service reps said something about "plastic stress," or some such thing. Odd that a car this new would have a piece like that just fall off, eh? Anyway, they seemed to think that they have to replace the entire assembly, not just the button. So, they've ordered the part. In the meantime, we can drive the car; it just takes a bit of doing.

    The car is still under warranty, so I assume this will be covered. But, as they say, assume nothing. I'll keep you posted.
  • cnewcnew Posts: 1
    1) At about 5000 miles loud noise coming from under the car only when A/C is on. Dealership"could not duplicate concern"

    2) 5129 put the car in park, turned A/C off and the car cut off/killed. Keyless remote would not lock/unlock doors or trunk. Still hearing noise. Dealer stated computer needed to be reprogrammed, but "could not duplicate consumers concern"

    3) At about 5300 miles car is idling extremely high you would think I am drag racing. Still hearing noise. Dealership changes throttlebody. Again, did not hear noise.

    4)One week later still having same problem. Dealership adjust a sensor and advises that there is a problem but they do not know how to fix. The service tech advised that my car's computer info was downloaded onto a disk and sent to GM Engineers to identify the problem and offer a possible solution. Still did not hear the noise.

    5) The plastic push knob for the shift handle breaks off leaving me stranded in a parking lot for 45min. Dealership superglues.

    6) Idling is beginning to get worse and the noise from under the car is occuring on a more frequent basis. Dealership could not duplicate concern Still no word from GM(1 month has passed)

    7) Begin to hear noise as on incline on bridge. Dealership finally hears noise(and it only took them 3000 miles after the initial complaint. Change the belt tensioners. After driving the car for 15 minutes the noise reappears.

    8) Dealership in all of their wisdom finally decided to check the A/C system(remember when I first told them of the problem, I explained that I only hear the noise when the A/C is on). The problem bad A/C compressor. Change compressor

    9) After three weeks hear a knocking noise under car when initially start car. Car still idles(and now three and half months has passed and still no word from GM Engineers.

    I have made several complaints to the Consumer Relations Dept. but they are of no help. I had to contact the BBB Autoline because the dealership was trying to feed me the "car salesman b.s.. I have decided on arbitration. For replacement vehicle. Just wondering if anyone else is or have experienced these problems. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Arbitration is scheduled in two weeks. Thanks
  • dindakdindak Posts: 6,632
    Sounds like you got a lemon. I'm guessing it's a 4 cyl model?
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