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  • lichtronimolichtronimo Member Posts: 212
    don't share a single exterior body panel and the TSX is quite attractive in person. The new TL looks even better.

    I think the Camry is a nice looking car, if slabsided from some angles. The big letdown with the Camry is the interior, which is more dull than a Buick.
  • lichtronimolichtronimo Member Posts: 212
    about Mazda's incentives for the year that says the company has suspended NA production of the Mazda6 to clear out overstock...
  • ghomazghomaz Member Posts: 68
    Hi,

    To see the modified styling cues of the 2003 Accord recently launched in India, check out:

    http://www.whatahonda.com/accord/

    Unlike the US model, it has fog lights in the front bumper and has chrome trim in the rear bumpers and around the rear license plate.
  • lichtronimolichtronimo Member Posts: 212
    car sold in Thiland and even sold in Japan as the upmarket Inspire (their Accord is our TSX and our Accord is their Inspire with equipment and trim differences).

    I like the front, but not the back.
  • naveen75naveen75 Member Posts: 10
    I am not able to decide whether or not to go with the navigation system on an EX-V6. I do like the feature but am not sure how long the navi-system would work. I intend to keep my car for 10 years and if for some reason the navigation system fails that wouldn't be good since the display pretty much occupies a major part of the console and has controls for many other features such as radio, climate control etc.

    Any comments would be greatly appreciated
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    should be pretty reliable since it doesn't have many moving parts. It's all electronic except for the DVD drive spindle, the weakest links are probably the LCD display and the DVD drive, which may go out early, but I think they can be replaced separately. The whole thing probably doesn't cost more than $500 to make in today's value. Probably less in 10 years.
  • naveen75naveen75 Member Posts: 10
    Seaf, if nav systems can be made for as low as $500 isn't the sticker price of $2000 too high for the option? I agree that the nav system is too cool to pass on but the high price is making me think quite a bit...
  • midsizemidsize Member Posts: 10
    blane:
    Thank you very much for replying my message. It is very helpful. I will try to post it to Yahoo and also local newspaper, and hopefully there are still some people who like to drive manual shift cars. Now I've adjusted my expectations on the trade-in value. I'll try to negotiate with the dealers to get close to the TMV trade-in value as indicated here in edmunds.com. It should be around $5500. In the mean time, I'll try to sell it myself. Regarding the sales tax - I'm in california, I guess I need to go to the state government's web site to find out if I need to pay any tax. You mentioned that I should draw a bill of sale, which I think is a very good suggestion. Thank you very much!
  • according2meaccording2me Member Posts: 236
    Take a look at this thread and read a few posts to see how the forum works, then post a good discription of your car and wait for the carguys to respond.

    photo_guy "Real-World Trade-In Values" Jul 30, 2003 8:26pm
  • patpat Member Posts: 10,421
    If you click on the link (blue tab) at the top of the page that says "Used Cars" you'll find a "Sell Your Car Online" option that you can check out.

    The Real-World Trade-In Values discussion that according2me has linked for you is an excellent resource to help you in pricing your car. Just be sure you give them the information they need to accurately assess the value.

    Good luck - keep us posted!
  • w5kapw5kap Member Posts: 32
    I recently bought a V6 Nav and I too was concerned about the longevity of the Navigation system. Especially in the automobile environment. However, the thing is so much fun and also, surprisingly, so functional, it is well worth it. I solved the potential problem by buying an 84 month/100k $0 deductible extended warranty. It covers bumper to bumper and if you amortize the cost over the 84 months (especially since you say you plan on keeping the car 10 years)it is well worth it. My wife thoroughly enjoys it and I never thought she would ever use it!! Good luck with your decision
  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    Acura has offered NAV for 5 years I believe with variations but the basic principle hasn't changed. So, there should be enough data somewhere to evaluate its reliability.

    If it is one of major concerns, one option would be to get it covered under extended warranty.
  • naveen75naveen75 Member Posts: 10
    Thanks to you and others for the replies. How much did the 7yr/100000 mile extended warrenty cost? And could you please tell me how much you paid for the car.

    I was looking at the standard ex-v6-leather-nav with the mini spolier, premium mats, wheel locks and hope to pay in the whereabouts of $25,500 more so since the dealers want to clear their inventory.
  • mikek37mikek37 Member Posts: 411
    My opinion on warranties is the follow:

    1) Read over the fine print, make sure the fine things are covered , i.e Navigation / electronic components

    2) Save yourself some money and dont buy the warranty until after the orginal has elapsed. Think about it, you are buying a seven year warranty, but in essence you are only paying for a 4 year warranty ( Original minus the extended or 7-3 equals only 4 years. You are paying for 4 not 7.

    3) WAit till the original 3 year runs out, then purchase the additional warranty.

    4)Dont buy from the dealer unless they offer you an extremely competitive rate, you shouldnt pay more then 800 bucks for a 7 year/100000. Honda offers the same warranties online for much less and it covers the exact same components as the dealership.
  • w5kapw5kap Member Posts: 32
    Well, the extended warranty was for 84 months, 100K miles (transferable) with $0 deductible. Guaranteed Honda parts, Roadside assistance and per diem of $75, and more I can't recall. The only reason I bought it was because of the Nav and I figured one fix of the A/C or Nav would cover it. The cost was right at $900. As I said, amortize that over 7 years and it isn't bad at all for the peace of mind. THe car is very sophisticated and who knows what could go wrong. Luckily I have arrived at that time of life when I can afford to take the chance and pay the money. I will be thrilled if I never need it. The car has the Gold Package, Full WIng, Gold Pinstriping, Grey Leather, basically the works for around $27 all inclusive. Probably payed a bit much but I was very, very happy with the dealer (with whom I have dealt before). We thought we were well treated and felt we got a fair deal. Hope this helps. Oh, for what it's worth, we looked at everything from Lincoln LS's to Toyota AValons, to the Infiniti I-35 and G-35. Dollar for dollar, none came close when you consider what we got.

    Cheers
  • midsizemidsize Member Posts: 10
    Hi according2me and pat,
    Thanks for your advices! I've just posted the info of my Accord at the "Real-world Trade-in value" thread, waiting for answers there :)
    I checked out the edmunds sell-on-line too. I'm hesitating to list it online yet. After I get some idea on what I can expect, and negotiate with the Acura dealer for my trade-in (I'm trying to buy a MDX), if I can't get the expected trade-in value, I'll post online to sell it.
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    yes, the Nav is expensive, but it is also the latest and coolest gadget. Buying a nav for your car now is like buying a personal PC in the early 90's... You're being in the leading edge of technology, but that has a cost to it. Another option would be an aftermarket NAV system but it may not go well with the interior of your car.
  • berbelberbel Member Posts: 167
    winbro:

    Read the ingredients label on ANY wheel cleaner you
    find at the auto parts store you frequent. If there
    is any ACID mentioned on the label, put it back on
    the shelf. My personal recommendation is a sponge
    and a lot of soapy water. If that doesn't do the
    trick, try P21S wheel cleaner. It's made in Germany
    and recommended for the expensive forged alloy rims
    on Porsches and other upscale cars. It's an excellent product with a balanced ph. In the last
    three weeks, I've spent $300.00 on auto detailing
    products and do a lot of research before using any
    product on my cars.

    berbel
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    On auto detailing products?

    Wow! What did you get?
  • winbrowinbro Member Posts: 235
    winbro
  • tlaurotlauro Member Posts: 504
    simple green...best stuff out there. safe for the car and environment. I bought a 5gal size of the concentrate over two years ago and still have over 1/2 left. Best $40 I spent....outside the powerwasher to go with it ;)
  • snowfulsnowful Member Posts: 53
    Seaf - I could not agree more with your post. I bought the V6 coupe w/navi and had some concerns about long term reliability, but just decided to say screw it and buy it. I've enjoyed it a lot and for me, the navi makes my car different from what my friends/family/colleagues drive and my driving experience is more enjoyable. I bought mine back in April and this is the first weekend I'm taking her on a real road trip - only a couple hundred of miles, but it is unknown territory and I can't wait for her to tell me how to get there!

    I agree on the extended warranty idea. I haven't bought one yet, but will probably buy one before my 3 year warranty expires just in case something happens to the navi. Until then, I can save up.
  • kennyg5kennyg5 Member Posts: 360
    They are cool gadgets to have, especially on a new car. I also debated whether I should get one when I bought my car. I think navis have been around for more than 5 years, and the price has yet to come down -- they averge around $2,000. Since I do not frequently drive to unfamiliar places (except driving on vacation), spending $2k does not seem to justify the cost. Moreover, since its introduction, more featurs have been added on (such as voice control). So, I figure I'd wait a few more years before I get a navi, and hopefully by then, they will come with even more features and at a more reasonable price :-)
  • buyhondabuyhonda Member Posts: 4
    Wondering if this is the right place to ask this question...I test drove a 2003 Accord yesterday. During the test drive, I realized that the 'C' pillar is simply too wide and blocks my sight when I look back (to eliminate blind spot) at my right or left when changing lanes on freeways. The dealer told me you will get used to it; and I probably will. But didn't find this as a good thing at all. Has any one experienced the same problem?
  • jdexter23jdexter23 Member Posts: 94
    Doesn't bother me in the least. I had more trouble getting used to the rear head rests blocking rearward vision, but I have gotten used to that. (Can't imagine driving a VW that has the middle rear headrest....)
  • dindakdindak Member Posts: 6,632
    You can get used to just about any obstruction in any particular car. Unfortunately there is a line that must be crossed for styling sometimes.
  • w5kapw5kap Member Posts: 32
    Have had our V6 Navi for about three weeks now and I can honestly say I have no problem with rearward vision due to the "C" pillar. Even the headrests do not get in the way. I recently rented a Toyota Corolla and did find the rear headrests badly blocked rear vision. So far nor problems in that area with the Accord. Loving it more every day. Good luck. You will love this car.
  • aggie1995aggie1995 Member Posts: 318
    No problem in our Accord, but the middle headrest in our CR-V really obstructs vision.

    The C Pillar is not a problem for me at all.
  • lichtronimolichtronimo Member Posts: 212
    set your side mirrors so that they are perpendicular to the side of the car. That will increase your visibility to the area blocked by the C-pillar. You don't need the side mirrors to see what is right behind you.
  • seafseaf Member Posts: 339
    Yes, that is very important. A lot of people set the side mirrors to see exactly what their center mirror already sees. What you should do is park the car and use the rear as a reference and make sure there is as little overlap as possible between the left side mirror, the front center mirror, and the right side mirror. That way you cover a wider angle.
  • sir_colsir_col Member Posts: 25
    Does anyone know what changes there will be in the 2004 4dr accord, and have pricing for the new model? Also, when will they be on the dealer lots, ready to be sold/ test drive....etc. etc... Any help would be appriciated. Sir_col
  • lichtronimolichtronimo Member Posts: 212
    The only change is a different green and side curtain airbags standard on the EX-L and optional on the EX and LX-V6. The '04 sedans are due in August.
  • berbelberbel Member Posts: 167
    Are you asking what specific products I bought or
    what general categories of products were purchased?

    berbel
  • talon95talon95 Member Posts: 1,110
    "What you should do is park the car and use the rear as a reference and make sure there is as little overlap as possible between the left side mirror, the front center mirror, and the right side mirror. That way you cover a wider angle."

    I've been doing this for years, and I'll never go back. The easiest way to set this is to move your head right next to the driver's window and set the left mirror so that you can just see the end of the car. Then move your head just over the console and do the same for the right mirror. Voila! No blind spots!
  • lichtronimolichtronimo Member Posts: 212
    but makes a big difference. I've set mine using the method Talon suggests. The passenger side is a little tricky, but just keep turning it outward until you can't see what also appears in your rear view mirror.

    I can't get my wife to set her mirrors this way and I get in her Accord and feel like I have no idea what's going on around me.
  • jcat707jcat707 Member Posts: 169
    I have a passat and those three headrests did block some visibility but i got used to them.
  • lichtronimolichtronimo Member Posts: 212
    I've been looking closer at the often critizied rear end of the Accord. Its actually pretty close to the sketches that appeared of the car that weren't really bad looking. I think the problem with the design is the rear bumper. It has soft-edged curves upward to the body at either side of the trunk opening that curve more genlty than the lower edge of the light assemblies. This is where it looses its sharpness and makes the back end look like its sagging around the license plate. Easy fix on the mid-cycle update.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    USA Today July 31 has a great article about premium fuel. It's not needed. It causes slight, if any difference, in performance: in a car designed for premium using premium "giving up perhaps just a little bit of performance that a customer wouldn't really even notice, it's so slight," says Furey ( chemist and fuels specialist at GM). Only exception is supercharges -- use premium if specified.

    Higher density of premium gives hard-to-measure difference in fuel economy and that same density can contribute to undesirable buildup of waste products inside the engine, according to Gibbs of Chevron oil and Chairman of Technical Committee on Fuels for Society of Automotive Engineers.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • robertsmxrobertsmx Member Posts: 5,525
    It helps only if the engine can burn it properly. Just saying that it won't is wrong conclusion.
  • alpha01alpha01 Member Posts: 4,747
    about rear headrests blocking view: they're usually removable, and most people dont have rear passengers most of the time, so why not just take em out, leave them on the floor in the back or the trunk, and put them in when you need them?
    C-pillars, on the other hand.... dont go away.

    ~alpha
  • berbelberbel Member Posts: 167
    robertsmx MAY have a point based on what I read
    and posted here awhile ago.

    Prior to my '03 Accord purchase and while researching, I read a critique article on the
    V-6 which stated that the car has dual knock
    sensors which will adjust the engine timing
    in the event that premium fuel is introduced....
    giving the car a performance enhancement. I
    have employed various means to try and verify
    this but have been unable to do so.

    berbel
  • tsxfan19tsxfan19 Member Posts: 28
    The new price increases for the 04 Accord are on the hondanews website.

    Curtain airbags only available on EX models
  • melman872melman872 Member Posts: 3
    I have a 1998 Honda Accord EX V6 with 103,500 miles. It's been a great car with very few problems. However, for the past year or so, my fuel gauge is inaccurate. Whenever I fill the tank full of gas, it will sometimes not go all the way to full, but often stop somewhere between full and the 3/4-full mark. If it does go all the way to "F", it won't stay there long (several minutes during driving). Before I FINALLY take it to the dealer, has anyone had this problem before. If so, what was the problem? Thanks.
  • bburton3bburton3 Member Posts: 185
    Use your trip odometer and clear it every time you fill up-would make certain you know how much it will cost to fix this relatively minor problem-$50 for peace of mind but it could get quite pricey-don't give the dealer a blank check-find out what it will cost before committing.
  • ncelkncelk Member Posts: 22
    Your fuel inaccurate fuel gauge is covered under the Honda Service Bulletin # 98-056 from October 1998.

    It is an inaccurate fuel gauge sending unit. We had ours done on our 98 Accord LX-V6 about 6 months ago.

    The part was $81.82 and the labor was $60. With taxes it was $148.50.

    It now works great. I am sure that is what is happening. It mostly affects V6 Accords, 1998-1998.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Member Posts: 20,342
    I remember you saying you had spent a huge amount of money on detailing products. I was just curious how you could have possible spent that much?

    I think I paid something like 10.00 for my last bottle of car wax and don't even remember what brand it was.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Member Posts: 27,676
    IF the gauge was inaccurate in design didn't honda pay for the replacement?
    It was defective from the beginning.

    2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,

  • superman5superman5 Member Posts: 154
    i have a 2001 accord (LX) with stock michelin tires at 30k, does anyone think replacing them at 30k is bid surprising? how long do they normally last? i know it's different for everyone depending on driving style but what is the norm/average?
  • bburton3bburton3 Member Posts: 185
    It all depends upon your driving style. Location can have an influence-used to live in a really hilly area and you were constantly cornering-more tire wear. Also if you drive over gravel roads-more tire wear. But if you drive on "normal" roads and you rotate your tires every 7-10K-30K is way too little life. Replaced the Michelin energy tires at 73K on a 97 LX-still had at least 10K left on them-ran over a large nail. Just got 84K out of a set of X-One's and they still had at least 5 or 10K left on them. The wet traction was still excellent at the end of the X-One's tire life.

    Were these tires evenly worn - did you rotate them.
  • superman5superman5 Member Posts: 154
    the outer edges are wearing out , and yeah, it sees little too soon to change em, and i did have them rotate every 5k
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