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It's too quick. Because it's quick I enjoy stepping on the loud pedal and listening to that sweet engine suck up all my gas. Therefore, I get 14 mpg.
Please pity me.
Every manufacturer makes lemons. I used to have a BMW that gave me FITS. It was the BIGGEST piece of junk EVER. So I got rid of it. I highly suggest anyone who is not liking their current vehicle do the same.
It makes me kinda chuckle when people complain about the 'rattles' although I know it's semi irritating, it beats getting recalls for:
2002 Trailblazer(to list a few):
front suspension A arm has weak weld, which may cause arm to break during driving, possibly causing driver to lose control of vehicle.
Fuel filter fitting can come off, causing loss of fuel pressure(while your gas is spraying about) and may cause fire or explosion hazard.
Transmission parking pawl does not completely engage, possibly allowing vehicle to roll while in park.
So at 13months and 9700 miles, I got rid of it... took a bath too(wayyy upsidedown)... but I think the problems with the Accord are significantly minor in comparison... I think the biggest problem I have with my accord right now is that it backfires through the intake... very interesting, and haven't had that in a FI car ... uh ever. especially at 11k miles(since 50miles) .... oh well... I be trading in 6mo anyways... lol
Absolutely love the car, would buy another in an instant.
it's reliability did go from way above average to just above average in CR latest data. but for comparison, the camry went all the way to just average in its first year. to the camry's credit, the car is now at way above average. i suspect the accord will do the same. maybe.
determining a car's overall reliability from maintenance boards is just silly. the numbers are not weighted and has more to do with a car's popularity.
in terms of it's engineering quality, the accord is far from regressing and according to many publications it's the car to beat in its segment. before the tl was redesigned the current accord was actually a superior car. the accord and tl are made at the same plant so the argument that the tl is better assembled is riducilous.
people step up to an acura model because they offer more features and performance, not because they believe the car will be more reliable.
comparably the new accord is better than the last generation and is no less reliable. the last accord in its first year also had problems.
the ride on your accord became rock hard after 5000k miles. that doesn't make sense to me. the car definetly rides differently than a camry. it's designed that way! so in this one aspect, this is indeed not the car's fault that you find its ride too "hard".
IMO, at least the Accord lives up to most of my expectations. Especially the mileage(got an ave. of 10-12mpg on my trailblazer w/ EPA 19/26, get 25mpg on the Accord w/ epa 26/34something like that)....
guess there are more than a handfull of us who have traded up so to speak
I've gotten so many emails still about my Trailblazer I had to remove the entire site.
Haven't started one for my accord, but here she is so far. Pics are okay but better ones soon to come.
http://www.pbase.com/pdqgp/my_cars&page=all
-tim
2003 Taffeta White & Ivory AV6 EX Sedan w/Navi
3M Clear Protection Bra on all sides
17" Honda Rims / Michellin Pilots / Locking Lugs
Injen CAI
Catz Rising White 4300k HID's
OEM Rear Wing
Shaved Emblems but with Gold H's
Door Visors, Moonroof Visor and Mud Gaurds
Black Diamond Shaped Grille-Tech
Viper Remote Starter / Alarm w/ Batt. Backup
Eclipse Components & 6x9's w/Eclipse Amp & Stillwater 10" Solo-Baric Sub w/Stillwater Amp
I'm still considering a new Accord but I'll be taking a 1000 mile round-trip over the Thanksgiving holiday. If I buy the car next week, it isn't going to have many miles on it by the 25th, when I'd be leaving.
Are high speeds (70 kph +) OK by Honda within the first few 1000 miles? Any other precautions I would have to observe? All the GM & Ford cars I've owned advised against sudden acceleration & braking but had no formal break-in procedure otherwise. Thanks for any advice.
The Honda manual didn't say anything about varying speeds during break-in. I think that in past years, accelerating to 60mph and coasting back to 40mph created engine vacuum that pulled oil to the tops of the cylinders to lubricate piston rings, etc. during the car's first few hundred miles when those parts are especially tight. I don't know if that is still true with today's cars...... Richard
Tlauro... yeah, seen ya around here a few times, but not nearly as much as in the Trailblazer forums, so wasn't sure it was you... =o)... I hear ya on the Trailblazer... I just couldn't deal with the recalls anymore... and I just keep getting them...
Most recent recalls for my Trailblazer- I/P cluster gauges inoperative and trans shift lock and ign key removal override... =oP sheesh.
Good luck with your accord Tim, looks good...
Undercoated cars were the worst because the tar sprayed under the car pulled away after becoming brittle in the cold and formed pockets into which salt water and mud collected. After about 3 or 4 winter seasons there were baseball sized holes in the fenders.
Newer cars are better protected and spraying goo under the car won't help anything that I can think of. Don't pay for undercoat--you don't need it and it's likely to do more harm than good.....Richard
Basically, lean on it, but don't jump up and down on the darn thing... I guess a fair comparison would be about the amount of weight you would need to put on your steering wheel to turn your tires with the engine off and the car immobile(roughly)... you can generally get a fair torque wrench for about 20-30 at the local hardware store... I have two, one from sears(digital; $99) and one from a tool warehouse for 29.
Nice tool to have if you plan on doing any fair amount of maintenance and want to do it 'right' as the manual has torque specs for the oil drain plug, spark plugs, etc, and I believe the lugs are 80-85 ft/lbs.
dust90--
I just realized my metric goof. No, I'm not in Canada and yes, I did mean 70 MPH. :-)
4500 miles on my 04 EX-L and the car has been great.
Reason I am asking is- I know the service guys at my dealer(ACURA) and their hours are more convenient to me.
I know it might be around $10 more for an oil change but is it worth it? Or should I just stick it out with the Honda service.
The Acura has iVTEC on intake and exhaust.
The Accord only has it on the intake.
I beleave the Acura also uses a higher compression and can not use regular gas.
Doesn't your Honda dealer have a Express 30Min service?
Anyway I just found out that I get a 10% discount on ALL service because I bought the car from them.
I guess I can kiss Acura goodbye.
Kinda like the GS and GS-R engines back in the day... Honda has to have something to beat themselves with.. =o)
Can I turn OFF the voice prompts during directions. That is, I want ONLY the screen directions.
Can't seems to figure it out...any help would be appreciate.
(I'm using Nav '03)
It makes you wonder is Honda seriously looking at putting in this CVT automatic into their four-cylinder US-market Accords; I think it will work because Honda's current CVT's are compatible with cruise control and now can handle the torque of the 2.4-liter I-4 engine.
I briefly test drove a Saturn VUE 4 cyl. which has a CVT and it was surprisingly quick--very smooth (reminded me of the early Dynaflow Buicks and Chevy Powerglides with no gear changes (yes, I am THAT old!).
One great feature of the new Accord is its smooth 5 speed automatic transmission. The CVTs are simpler and if performance and durability can be built at lower cost, you can expect to see CVTs on more cars in the future.......Richard
http://ca.autos.yahoo.com/030402/11/shs1.html
.......Richard
I also had a litte homemade go-kart as a kid with a centrifugal clutch. As the motor RPMs increased, a little spring-loaded plate moved out from what looked like an ordinary pulley and increased v-belt tension, thus increasing the go-kart's speed. As a 12-year-old, I was fascinated by that technology -- seemed so clever. I'm wondering if modern CVT has any relation to that principle?
The acceleration was so strong they couldn't reach it after you floored it.
2014 Malibu 2LT, 2015 Cruze 2LT,
Are you sure it turns off the voiced directions?
Maybe my system is kaputt.
Anyhoo, I have ridden in an Audi with a CVT and really liked the seamless ramp-up of speed. Interestingly, instead of the engine remaining at a steady RPM under WOT it varied the RPM's up and down to simulate shifting. A step in the opposite direction?
I look forward to Honda engineers refining this technology. More power from less displacement is always a good thing in my book.
The Accord should not be one of the first Honda vehicles to get a CVT though. They should put it on their biggest vehicles first (Ody). Bigger vehicles consume more fuel. CVT is billed as an energy saver.
Richard
http://asia.vtec.net/article/2003City2/DSCF0003.AVI
If possible, let it load fully into your video player before starting--it crashed my browser twice.
Richard