Edmunds dealer partner, Bayway Leasing, is now offering transparent lease deals via these forums. Click here to see the latest vehicles!
Popular New Cars
Popular Used Sedans
Popular Used SUVs
Popular Used Pickup Trucks
Popular Used Hatchbacks
Popular Used Minivans
Popular Used Coupes
Popular Used Wagons
Comments
It doesn't take much of an extra load in our '02 LE for the tail pipe to drag when backing out of our driveway(or pulling in). Will have to check more closely to see if I can determine if it's the tail pipe or the resonator?(surely that's not the muffler back there)
The drive is on an incline so I'll need to perfect driving in at an angle or else move.
the 2001 Camry did not have this feature. did they put it on the 2002's?
$18,6xx + tax + title and licence. All negotiation done over the e-mail with the internet manager at Rinke Toyota near Detroit. Great guy. Offered to order it for $19,000. I counter offered for $19,600 out of the door, and say that we could sign the deal quickly and painlessly if he can agree to that. Came back offering $19,82x out the door, which is $500 over dealer cost (invoice + TDA). Faxed me a hard copy agreeing to the price. No B.S, no hidden fees, no hard sale on useless add-ons. Bargained well and done.
Ann Arbor (Dunning) Toyota was closer, but they tried to use the whole bag of sales tactics on me. First say they can't order a 5-spd, have to add automatics. Then they say they must add carpeted floor mats. One tried to sell that at $21,500 out of the door. While another salesman said they would give me $300 off MSRP if I buy one from their lots (if I order, it would be MSRP). I didn't give them the pleasure. Ann Arbor has only 1 toyota dealership, they are really spoiled. Somebody needs to give them some competition
Rinke Toyota was 20 minutes further out, but deserved the business. Took a test drive, and filled out the order form and shook hands. Best sales experience so far. All dealers should be like that. It took less than 1 hr of his or my time to conclude this deal. Quick and painless. So the profit might not be high for him (the deal net him $100 if he gets 20% commission), but he made an easy $100 bucks for almost no work.
The car, while not evoke any passion, it does evoke one emotion = peace/tranquility. Enjoyed the short test drive in a LE-automatic, the ride was comfortable and quiet, steering was little too effortless. Seating was higher than the last Camry and gave a more commanding view. Well, not much could be said, it's a family car, and it's strength is it's solidness and total lack of offense.
Well, this will be my last post for a while. Townhall is too addictive, and I have very little time to spare at this point of my life. Best wishes. Bye y'all.
: )
Mackabee
: )
Mackabee
Everyone has seen both the Matrix and the Japanese / Euro Corolla, so it's not like there are huge doubts about what the car will look like outside. But the shots of the interior imply a SIGNIFICANT upgrade...IF the North American-produced versions are not made noticeably less rich. We'll see...
You press the trunk release button and hold it for approximately one second.
If someone taps her car enough to set off the air bag protection is that going to splatter the milk that's now buckeled in safely all over the car?
Something to think about ... accidents do happen but this could make for an expensive replacement of the passenger side air bag.
... sorry, the thought keeps coming back.
Any ideas ... will have to research the manual again!
: )
Mackabee
The airbag deployment is indeed more complicated than I imagined. From the manual it looks like you would have to have a frontal impact of 15mph to set off the airbags. At that I expect no one's going to worry about spilt milk (except maybe the EMT's if you didn't have your seat belt engaged properly).
: )
Mackabee
Hope to be driving a phantom gray pearl Camry XLE before too long... if the universe cooperates with the financial end!
Olivemarie
I have to give it to Camry. It has a lot more solid feel to it than Altima. Material quality is much better in Camry. Yes, Altima's shape is sporty, but one should not be deceived by sporty look. If there is no solid feel and material quality to go with the look...who cares? the gear shift in Altima felt light and flimsy. You cant's see the gages in daylight unless you have the instrument panel lights on!!!!
Open and close Altima's doors. It is very light and flimsy, specially the back door. It is large, and is moving a lot of air out of the way while it is closing.
At the end reliability and resale value also come in the picture. Past Altimas did not have great record in either area. The new Nissan 175HP engine is kind of gimick.... and exactly at what RPM those extra horses come out to play? and how often are you driving your car at those RPM's? Almost NEVER. One Nissan engine advantage is its use of timing chain instead of belt which never requires maintenance. I still take Toyota's engine over Nissan's.
Jack
Anybody know if we'll be able to upgrade the system if we wanted to?
On that same note ... does anybody know how interchangeable Lexus and Toyota parts are? I noticed the 2002 LE 300 has steering wheel controls for the radio. I'm assuming that the controls could easily be adapted to the SE's steering wheel (looks exactly the same).
: )
Mackabee
wheel will not go down as far.
and the between the seats console plastic looks really thin and cheap.
I have also seen a new Altima (silver) as well, not to impressive...
-RAVvie4me
Also, I went to Charleston yesterday with my family, and I saw 8 new Camrys on Interstate 26 as expected, most were LE models. I also went to Toyota of Greenville this morning, and they didn't have many new Camrys at all, two SE models, one was Phantom Gray(I LOVE THAT COLOR TOO!) and the other was Lunar Mist, the Phantom Gray cost about 30K, it had everything except the NAVI, the Lunar Mist had the lowest optional package, with just keyless entry, and a power seat.
I need to try the v6 camry now, do v6 camry owners have any comparable notes in the above areas?
In my performance test on the 2002 4cyl auto over 1 day highway and city, I got 11.3L/100km which is not much better than 21mpg. I blame extensive use of o/d cancel switch and brisk jack rabbit starts for this. I think in a camry v6, the acceleration would be more than adequate so fuel economy would not suffer that much.
As far as quality goes, the build process is the same, but materials, such as the sheet metal used for bodies, will be acquired locally. But many components are the same, no matter where the car is assembled. All Toyotas go through a very rigorous quality control process, and I feel that no matter where they were made you're going to get a quality vehicle.
I have an '89 pickup built in Japan and a '91 Camry built in the US. For the fit and finish, performance, satisfaction, etc. I can't see a hoot's worth of difference, and I've been very satisfied with both.
The instrument panel is designed to be lighted, like the panel in the Lexus ES300 or the Infiniti I35.
>>Open and close Altima's doors. It is very light and flimsy, specially the back door. It is large, and is moving a lot of air out of the way while it is closing.
The door moves a lot of air because it's big. It's light, but it closes with a solid sound.
I would also most likey take the 4-cylinder Camry over the Altima. Performance wouldn't be on my mind if I'm buyin a 4-cyl. family car. But the V-6 is a different matter. Well, I actually bought the 240HP V-6 3.5 SE because I wanted the added performance. Also the multi-link rear suspension setup / tuning and the 17" wheels was a big selling point over the Chapman rear struts w/ 16" wheels set up for comfort.
Once again, performance suspension setups wouldn't be a consideration for me if I was buying a 4-cyl. family car.
Thanks
Basically I feel that in that context, some of the cars were mis-represented (especially the Dodge Intrepid, and I also felt the representative Camry in that crowd should have been the LE V6), and some serious contenders were omitted b/c of C&D requirement of a V6 engine and certain interior room specifications... namely, the Passat 1.8T (more than enough power) and Galant V6 (plenty of room...).
~alpha
I wonder it is b/c Accord is a better value car! For 25k you can get an Accord V6 EX with std leather, traction control... But you would have to pay about 29k for a v6 Camry se and about 28k for a v6 Altima SE. I saw a v6 Altima Se in the lot and it does not even have abs or traction control. I think Camry V6 and Altima V6 are too expensive. I can not wait to see the newly design Accord next year.
I guess becos of this pricing only Honda increased Accord's invoice by $400 ob EVERY trim for 2002 despite renewed competition !!!
Small number of cars produced means more time to look them over :-) BTW, the engine and transmission for the RX300 will come from Buffalo, WV USA.
http://www.toyota.com/html/about/news/archive/press_release/manufacturing/docs /2001/20010126_tmmwv.jsp
(you will have to edit this URL to a single line. The editor won't allow long words)
Georgetown - 500,000 cars (annual production)
Cambridge - 200,000 cars (annual production)
(Just some good natured ribbing, and figures)
The moral of story is that Kentucky version had better quality in my opinion.
Oh, still very happy with 2000 LE, just wish there are little more horsepower.
For Comparison Purposes, the interior of the Galant IS Marginally smaller than that of the Camry but WAAAY bigger than the current Corolla, contrary to that which was stated in a previous post.
The numbers for the Galant are
Overall Passenger Room- 97.6 Cu.ft. +
Cargo Volume- 14.6 Cu. ft.
Corolla
Passenger Volume - 88 Cu.ft. +
Cargo Volume - 12.1 Cu.ft.
~alpha