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1. 3 (by far)
2. PRO
3. Sentra, Corolla, Civic (don't know Lancer)
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1. Corolla
2. Civic, 3, Sentra
3. PRO
I'm not so proud of the Civic quality as much as Dinu.
Dinu
picture
What you see is mainly the chrome exhaust garnish, the exhaust itself is the inner black cylinder.
Lavaorange3, I just went outside with a measuring tape just for you. It's 3 inches (or about 7.5 cm)in diameter for the 3 GT GFX. I dont know if they are different on GX and GS models.
Got my winter tires on this morning, so I had a total of 7 days ( 6 really) to enjoy my 205-50/17's. Boo hoo, I should live below the snowbelt!
Pet
I know the bolt pattern and rim offset for the Mazda3.
ROOF RACK GUIDE.
Pet
Try fitting a TV, and 2 bicycles with the sedan's trunk closed...
Dinu
http://special.axela.mazda.co.jp/movie.html
Dinu
Beg your pardon, petpad, but the front of the sedan and hatchback are not quite identical. Maybe this is splitting hairs, but the sedan's hood is slightly cleaner, sleeker and IMHO better looking than the hb. Still, I love the versatility of the db as Dinu pointed out and my 3 will be the hb. I believe I read somewhere that the sedan and hb do not share any sheetmetal.
p.s. And I think the Protege sedan is better looking than the P5. :-P
http://f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/brunoluong/lst?&.dir=/Album+- - - 02&.src=ph&.begin=97&.view=t
IMO, they are all look fine. I have collected a bunch of high quality Protegé(5) pictures of the lately (they are now history), and boy, they still do look good. The P5 has an almost perfect proportion and the side pannel look very sporty and solid. The transition between the hood and windshield of the Mazda3 is smoother (European modern style), creating a more integrated overall line, so it does need few more artifact to enhance the line, and Mazda designers do well (may be a little bit over done for the Mz3 hatch, and I'm still debating whereas I should get the sport bumpers, roof spoiler and all). The rear of the Mz3 sedan still bugs me a little bit. I don't mind the short trunk and rear overhang, but there is something not normal with the thick flat trunk flank with the big white round backlights.
Hemmm, I think they are actually there for quite some time now, accept the first one that wasn't when I check a week ago, pretty cool. Thanks Dinu. If only I can understand a bit of Japanese.
I didn't know they took a bunch of cars in France and Alps mountain for training, it's not very far from where I live. It's must be expensive. I wonder how those japanese students manage to drive on the right size of the road.
From this photo it seems the bulb is not LED. Damn it.
By the way, apologies on the hatch!! I thought the front were identical, I guess I didn't look that closely. I agree with the TV and the cargo stuff, and that's why we also have a minivan for that sort of stuff... My only real complaint though is that my wife wants to drive the car more than the van... Ha Ha Ciao, here are the links
Pet
http://tinyurl.com/ws9f
and
http://tinyurl.com/ws9g
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid90/pa658cae1b788739aeeb0- 493b0554ff75/fa741b4d.jpg.orig.jpg
http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid90/p113943c4a84468ed9153- f5f815c249c7/fa741b44.jpg.orig.jpg
http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/444b8763/bc/My+Photo+Album/__sr_/d- eliv1b.jpg?bc7Ghx_ABsSConKX
For comparison, here is the same color 5-door hatch
Hatch photos
I know people were complaining about not being able to turn off this sound whenever they go to change volume, tracks, stations, etc., on the MZ6. To our new owners out there (congrats and thanks for the pictures!), is this the case with the 3 too??
The car looks amazing!!!
And it even matches with your jacket
Dinu
I need to see if I can get wheel covers for my winter rims though, cuz the black rims do give the car a more doomed wintery look...
BTW - for the question on the brake light, whether its this or that, sorry I dunno. All I care is that it lihts up when I brake...
Also gromit, you are correct indeed, I spent more time observing the fine details of the hatch snout against the sedan, and they are different. However, I still prefer the sedan in GFX dress.:-)
Pet
Your pics look great... I hope to have Bruno upload mine by next weekend.
Lava.
Read this for more detail
http://chemistry.beloit.edu/BlueLight/pages/hp/an1155-3.pdf
Lava, sure! When the Ti supposes to be delivered?
first hand impressions:
the side profile looks better at a distance, the closer I got to it, the more typically subcompact looking it seemed. Specifically, the trunk area from the side makes it look generic to me, lacking unique character. Plus, that thick bumper drives me a little nuts... talk about your "junk in the trunk"! I quite like the design of the rest of car from the side though.
The back end I liked better in person than I have in pictures. As a whole, the back end comes together pretty well, I thought. The front end didn't thrill me too much, especially because it was sitting next to an RX8, which has so much character. Too plain/generic looking, though fogs and/or the sports grill would probably help.
Interior-wise, the carbon grey-looking seat and door inserts looked good, not so much the pattern of it, but the color coordination looked good. Certainly not obnoxious like so many cloth patterns are.
Looking through the window, the textures on top of the dash didn't bother me. The dash and the doors do have that tinny/thin look about them which I suppose is typical for that class, lacking shapely and comfy looking padding, I guess.
Inside on the showroom there was a titanium grey 3s (sports Pkg.). It looked better to me than the 3i, but I couldn't get close to it as the place was closed today (Happy Thanksgiving all!). Hopefully I can swing back over there soon and get a better look.
Oh, and for anyone in this area, Jacobs Twin in Chicago has a good 12-15 stocked, according to www.autotrader.com.
So I'm one step closer to the 3 now Guess I'll have to buy it sooner than anticipated (early summer) since I won't be working there in August or September.
Dinu
PS: I'll now go back to work
Some views I have seen of the hatchback, the rear window isn't as large as it appears in Mazda's photos, which were shot from below eyelevel and using wideangle lenses. Maybe petpad can tell us if the hatch window is smaller than shown in photos? Bruno test dove a hatch?
fowler3
Dinu, the PIN lasts for a year, so even if you leave you can still use the PIN.
The dealer principle was very friendly and up front and gave me quite an overview of the technology. We got into the price discussions, and I said "I assume you are selling them for MSRP with no discount due to popularity?"
He said no. He said he doesn't like the haggling thing, so he sets "one price" for his dealership which incorporates some discount off MSRP (obviously not lots of discount on a low margin item like this). Similar to what Access Toyota does, he said.
So we sat down and spec'd out this car (this is what I want to buy)
Titanium GT with Leather, GFX, Auto (don't laugh, wife will be driving it and hates sticks) transmission.
He said they include free wheel locks.
The price he gave me before tax (which we discussed as his "best price"), with freight in, was 25,915.13
I said that's pre-tax, he said yes. I said what's the admin fee? He said no admin fee.
I'm confused.
Not only does that not appear to be a discounted price, it seems to be higher than MSRP from the "build and price" section of the website. I priced it on the web and the total MSRP + freight was 25,508.95. So his quote is not discounted from what I can tell, and is actually ~ 400 bucks higher than MSRP....is that not correct?
Keep thinking I'm missing something here.
Baffled.
I used "carcostcanada" and it gave me MSRP of 25,407.00 Getting different numbers everywhere I go.
Given your specs, I just did the math and your price of $25,508.95 is around the right ballpark (albeit the MSRP ballpark, but you're not going to get much of a deal right now).
combustible1, the control sounds are optional on the 3. They can be switched on and off with the same dial that controls bass, balance, and fade on the sound system.
oh, and did you get the HIDs? I don't remember if you said that or not. If yes, what are your impressions?
He said no. He said he doesn't like the haggling thing, so he sets "one price" for his dealership which incorporates some discount off MSRP (obviously not lots of discount on a low margin item like this). Similar to what Access Toyota does, he said."
If that's the way you phrased your question, you may have given him the opening to charge you MSRP when his regular policy is to normally give some sort of discount.
Given your essential expectation to pay MSRP, he may have decided to quote you MSRP afterall, inspite of what he told you about their regular discounting practice.
When we got talking about price, they gave me the same information as you. However, the salesperson mentioned that they included: undercoating, paint sealant, fabric/leather protection, rust inhibitor, 3 years of scheduled maintenance, and 3 years of roadside assistance in their price. Something to think about anyway.
The good news is the hatch GT handles the pants off everything else in the class. Bad news is it felt a little anaemic with the automatic (they didn't have a 5-speed). My question is how much difference will the 5-speed make in terms of performance? Forgive my ignorance, I have never driven an auto and don't intend to anytime soon.
Bring on January.
Sounds like the car is a thumbs up. Unfortunately I have to take an automatic so the wife can drive it too (plus, keeps my left hand free for the oh-so-critical tim hortons coffee in my travel mug).
Maybe I was confused on the price. He seemed to indicate that the 25,915 did not include the things you listed (ie protection package and maintenance). I got the impression those were extra (300-ish for maintenance, 590 for the protection stuff). IF, however, they are included in the 25,915 - he would have himself a deal and I'd go in to make the purchase!
Jarrett
Now that some of you are actually buying these, I'm wondering: what sort of anti-theft protection is there? I probably haven't tried hard enough to figure that out from the official site, but when I use "build and price" I don't see it as an option/accessory choice.
I guess my concern is that a sparkly new Mazda 3 GT with Leather is going to look extremely tempting to theives when parked in a shopping mall parking lot
Is the only option aftermarket (voids warranty?) or the Club?
Best Regards
Jarrett