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2011-12 Optima

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  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    Anyone in the NJ area know of any dealers who have one to look at? The few I called by me have none yet.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 15,429
    well, I stopped in Cherry Hill Monday (or might have been tuesday) , and they did not have any yet, but expect some in this week.

    should be out soon.

    2015 Hyundai Sonata 2.4i Limited Tech (mine), 2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (daughters college car)

  • After patiently waiting for 2 months, a sexy, Dark Cherry EX 2.4 with the Tech package arrived at my local dealership last week. After the test drive, I decided on a EX Turbo with the Premium package. The salesman was a jerk--- he knew nothing about the car, said the price would be $32k for the EX Turbo and wanted a cash deposit in order to find one for me. I was livid!! I walked out and called another dealer who claimed to be able to get a Dark Cherry EX 2.4 with the Tech and Premium packages. He has a black one on the lot at present. But I'm not certain he's being honest because after chatting with the Kia Corporate office, I learned the following info:
    a. The EX Turbo will hit showroom floors in mid January 2011
    b. The SX and SX Turbo- in February 2011
    c. The Hybrid - in March 2011.
    I would have liked to purchase it as a X-mas gift to myself, but now I guess I'll have to wait. I think Kias are awesome due to purchasing a new 2004 Optima EX V6. fully loaded. It was a great car.
  • James Kia in Flemington on RT 202 has an LX and an EX in stock. Burlington, Cherry Hill and Turnersville are all getting them by the middle of next week.
  • cars.com is now loaded with 2011 Optimas. It is the best looking vehicle offered by Hyundai/Kia today. Blows away the Sonota IMHO.

    891 new 2011s on cars.com tonight.

    Cars.com
  • Thanks for the info. I'm in Georgia. Will the NJ dealer do a swap?
  • Thank for the info and I totally agree! The Optima= Coke; the Sonata= Diet Coke. Bring on the caffeine!!!
  • The dealer in NJ now has 6 in stock, 3 each of LX and EX. According to cars.com, his inventory is practically the only in the entire northeast, cause it was the only thing that came up within 150 miles of Philly.

    There is much inventory currently in NC, according to cars.com. The other dealers in NJ should be receiving their initial spoon fed inventory this week. If the dealers treat it like the original Sonata inventory, they will only receive a little at a time and they will be stingy with trading and probably stingy with discounting.

    It iritates me because I have been offered a Sonata Limited Turbo from 2 different dealers at 1900 and 2000 below invoice and I have a feeling I'm going to love the Optima once I get behind the wheel. I wanted to pull the trigger before the end of the year, but I know no dealer is going to discount it low enough for me.
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews/driven/1012_2011_kia_optima_sx/index.html

    "In an alternate universe, we're tearing through the blissfully serpentine asphalt twisting through Topanga Canyon outside of Los Angeles; a pull of the steering wheel paddle shifter drops the transmission into second before we enter a sweeping corner. Hard on the brakes, and then back into throttle to power out; we're now three-up in the new turbocharged 2011 Kia Optima SX, and quickly bearing down upon a BMW 5 Series. Sound like a dream? Hardly: the Optima SX hungrily devours challenging corners, and its turbocharged engine backs up its good looks with plenty of bite. "
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    http://www.insideline.com/kia/optima/2011/2011-hyundai-sonata-vs-2011-kia-optima- -comparison-test.html

    "We often see comparison tests like this one produce point spreads in the five-to-10-point range. With a commanding 16.3-point margin of victory over the reigning champ, the Kia Optima EX beat the 2011 Hyundai Sonata GLS at its own game; proving that it is a truly a car worth your consideration — just like the 2011 Hyundai Sonata did when it was introduced
    .

    Our clever scheme to compare the same car with different wrappers became a rather significant victory for one and a bit of a black eye for the other. It turns out there are enough differences in content, execution and dynamics to declare the Optima EX a completely different — and better — car than the Sonata GLS."
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    A good review along with a video:

    [url=http://www.king5.com/video/featured-videos/DRIVING-NORTHWEST--112017869.htm- l]DRIVING NORTHWEST: 2011 Kia Optima | KING5.com | Seattle Featured Video on Demand[/url]

    [quote]If the competition doesn’t see Optima as a threat, they have their eyes shut and fingers in their ears. At a much lower transaction price it includes features not even available on Accord, Camry and Altima. Kia’s combination of design, performance, efficiency and value put Optima in a class by itself. [/quote]
  • more value for less price is indeed the Kia way, man. That is one thing that enamors me to the brand. One could also bring up the generous Long-Haul Warranty for another reason, and great Kia body styles as another.

    2011 Kia Soul Sport 5-speed

  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    http://drivencarreviews.com/?p=3594

    If the competition doesn’t see Optima as a threat, they have their eyes shut and fingers in their ears. At a much lower transaction price it includes features not even available on Accord, Camry and Altima. Kia’s combination of design, performance, efficiency and value put Optima in a class by itself.
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    good news for US consumers, Kia stepped up Optima production in November with 7,580 units for export compared to 5,762 in Oct and 1,780 in Sept.
  • Bought the EX with premium package just over a week ago and already have over a 1000 miles on it, work car. I was going to wait on EX with Turbo but needed to buy now so couldn't wait. So far averaging just under 28 MPG in mixed driving and between 32 - 35 MPG on highway. Obviously with amount of miles I put on the car this was very important to me. Car drives great and I am getting a lot of compliments.
  • I plan to purchase tommorrow- Ex with Premium package. How much did you pay, if I may ask?
  • $23,745 before T,T, & L
  • sbwawsbwaw Posts: 3
    Couyon,
    The premium package has a power passenger seat, right? If so, does it allow for height adjustment? I don't think the Sonata does--and the passenger seat seems very low for shorter people due to the high windows/beltline.

    Thanks,
    MB
  • The passenger seat has 4 way adjustment so not height adjustable. My wife is 5ft 3 and has not complained about the height though. when we test drove the sonata she did mention that she found it low so maybe the optima is set a little higher. I was concerned when we read the reviews of complaints about seat comfort but so far we both find the car seats to be comfortable, more so than our test drive of the Sonata. longest drive so far has been hour and half so maybe on longer drives it is an issue.
  • sbwawsbwaw Posts: 3
    Thanks for the info. The Sonata seat height was pretty much a deal breaker for us, hopefully it's better in the Optima (which I think I might like a little better anyway based on photos and reviews).
  • My new Optima will be driven 280 miles to my local dealer. If I do not want the miles on the car, what can I do, other than go get it myself? Can I ask the dealer to lower the price on it? Please advise.
  • njgreggnjgregg Posts: 39
    edited December 2010
    Even if you go get it yourself, the miles will still be put on the car, plus you'll have the expense of whoever is driving you to go pick it up (gas + any tolls). The dealer you are dealing with is getting the specific car you want through a dealer swap. Since the Optima is now just being delivered to most dealers, why not negotiate with the dealers who have exactly what you want. Unless you need to have the car immediately for some reason, I would negotiate with dealers within a 100 mile radius (or as far as you're willing to drive) that have the specific car that you want. It's not like there's a rebate that's expiring soon so you HAVE to buy it now. Remember, it's YOUR money, buying something YOU want. Don't be pressured into getting something that you don't feel 100% ok with, and that includes a dealer swap from 280 miles away. Best of luck with your decision.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,769
    If you don't want the extra miles on the car, you can pay to have the car transported on a truck. That will cost you a lot more than those 280 miles are worth, IMO.
  • dash5dash5 Posts: 418
    Leftlane review

    Leftlane’s bottom line
    Kia is doing their part to prove that they are not carbon copy clones of their cousins over at Hyundai. In the process, they have produced a ride that, to borrow from the Kia Soul Hamsters, has you humming in your head, “you can get with this, or you can get with that.”

    We’ll take this.


    tflcar review

    The Optima Turbo SX has a rather firm, sporty ride and quick, heavy steering. It tracks beautifully—you feel as if you could take your hands off the wheel on a freeway for miles and it would keep going in a straight line. Its firm-riding 45-series tires on 18-inch wheels were very noisy on some Miami freeway and secondary road pavement.

    I briefly drove the EX Turbo and found it has slightly lighter steering, wider, smoother-riding 55-series tires on 17-inch wheels, but less responsive handling than the SX.
  • One week ago, purchased Optima EX with Nav and other package. Today, while at the dealer for auto detailing, I looked at a Optima LX in showroom. The carpeting in the LX was plush while the carpeting in my EX resembles the trunk liner material. The carpet is not plush, although it looks ok and fits very well. I am just wondering why a difference. Any comments would be appreciated.
  • My wife and I test drove an Optima for the first time today. It was a pearl white EX with everything. We loved it. However, might I ask what bright marketing person at KIA does not understand that as much as I like the car, I don't know if I can get used to a badge (stuck everywhere, even right in front of me on the steering wheel) with big obtrusive capital letters 'KIA'? Don't they realize American mentality? That KIA stands for 'Killed in Action'? And even if it didn't stand for something so negative, who would want big block letter cluttering up an otherwise great looking car? The Genesis (Hyundai) offers an option where even the Hyundia badge symbol can be replaced with silver wings! Somebody is getting it at least!

    And the Turbo?? Yeah, we want to wait for the turbo in a couple of months, BUT on top of the price of the car, I'll HAVE to spring for a new set of wheels (which will hurt resale value) because of the absurd design they chose to equip the turbo with. They look like food slicing blade from a Cuisinart food processor or something. I'd be happy to buy the turbo and just have the wheels that come on the EX!!! Will they swap them for me for no upcharge maybe?

    On the positive side... We had just driven an Altima 2.5S Coupe before driving the Optima. Wow! What a difference! The Altima, as equipped, stickered at about $29,500. I wouldn't have paid $20,000 for it due to the 'growl' of its 4 cylinder engine which sounded like 4 cyl Pontiac GrandAm from 1986 or something like that.

    KIA - LOSE those food processor looking wheels on the Turbo BEFORE its released PLEASE!! If someone [non-permissible content removed]-bag wants wheels like that, let HIM be the one to have to go buy them! Don't make me and many others have to buy a set of EX wheels to replace them so we can look civilized. If you are going to keep these wheels, then you need to have the windows to automatically roll down when the stereo is playing loud! Second - get someone talented to design you a descent upscale BADGE and LOSE the big block lettered KIA that looks like it belongs on the back of a delivery truck! Steve in Maineville, OH
  • conwelpicconwelpic Ontario, CanadaPosts: 600
    if you are so dead set against the KIA logo badges, you can get replacement logos available online.
    The EX turbo does not have the rims you mentioned, that is only on the SX which also has an optional 18" rims.

    KIA - first syllable KI means "to arise to the world, or to come up out of to the world". The second syllable, A, means "Asia". So the world KIA, means "to arise from" or "to come up out of Asia to the world".
    You can always find another meaning for any letters. Maybe Ford should change there's, I thought that meant "Found on road, dead". GMC - "great mechanical crap", etc, etc :)
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    The best car name was the Chevy Nova in Mexico where it means doesn't go.
  • you missed my point about the badge. I have no problem with the name of the company. I have no problem with buying a car made by 'KIA'. However, I do know that many American company names had to be changed due to offending certain foreigners because we accidentally chose a name that 'meant something unpleasant' in their language. Evidently, return consideration doesn't apply. But, again, it isn't the name of the car that irritates me. KIA doesn't have a LOGO badge like Hyundai, Honda, Acura, Toyota, Lexus, Nissan, Infiniti, Buick, or the Chevy bowtie. Just these big 3 letters plastered not so very subtlety, but rather like a big billboard on the front and back of the car and also right in my face in the middle of the steering wheel! Get a LOGO or a real badge please and lose the 3 big block letters - or at least make the letter font more elegant and upscale??
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