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Acura TL Tires and Wheels

newcarmannewcarman Posts: 55
Good day. Regarding the Acura TL, ive heard in the past by the message board that the tires arent too great with regard to traction in the snow , is that true??

What type of stock tires do they use?? Are they still using the Bridgestones?? If so Are those tires not too great???

Thank you.
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  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,720
    '05 TL with Bridgestone Turanza EL42 tires. Very poor in the snow. Traction electronics, snow driving experience, common sense and luck have gotten me through two Boston area winters without incident! If the TL was to be the family ski car, I'd get snows in a heartbeat (probably should anyway...). I plan to replace 'em with better snow rated all-season's this fall.

    Great car!

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • dmarcus48dmarcus48 Posts: 139
    far as I know, the non-navi tl's come with the bridgestone's. The navi ones come with Michellin's, same ones I had on my Volvo S80, they were decent in the snow. I don't know why there's the difference between navi and non-navi tires, doesn't make sense.
  • bartalk3bartalk3 Posts: 692
    That's right. The TL without NAVI has the Bridgestone tires; the TL with NAVI has the Michelins. That's just how they're equipped.

    I don't imagine either one is particularly good in snow. They are wide (235) performance tires, not meant for snow. Even though it's a front drive car, I'd use snow tires in the winter if you often drive in snow.
  • Hi,

    Any experiences with snow/sleet/ice using the stock all-weather tires? CT can be an extremely unforgiving state during the winter months.
  • The stock tires are real bad in wet weather IMO. We had some rains last week in midwest and the car was slipping like carzy. I am thinking of changing tires soon..
  • aaarghaaargh Posts: 230
    That all depends on whether you have the Bridgestones or Michelins (both are stock). If it's the Bridgestones, look out. They perform poorly in the snow IMHO. Check out tirerack.com for ratings and reviews.

    I don't know how the Michelins are.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,720
    Hi CT_Driver1:

    Former Southern CT resident here, now south of Boston. As previously stated, the Bridgestone Turanza EL42 tires are very poor in the snow. Combo of wide footprint and just not a good snow-tire. Two winters have made me look forward to replacing them when their time comes.

    I've never gotten stuck (although getting out of my mildly steep driveway sometimes has taken a bit of time) and no accidents or near accidents but that is because I am always aware of the (lack of) snow grip of the Bridgestones. The traction control helps unless, of course, there is no traction! Not to mention ABS, snow driving experience and luck...

    Good luck, stay alert and keep your distnace in the white stuff!

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • dwarfl0rddwarfl0rd Posts: 12
    I had the stock Michelins on my '05 Navi. They were great tires for summer, but in rain or snow....forget it. Because I have kids I had to put on all-seasons. I didnt lose anything in the handling department and they handle much better in the rain. I can't speak for the stock bridgestones though. If you have the michelins and live in a "snowy" climate, change 'em out or get a seperate set of rims and tires.
  • bartalk3bartalk3 Posts: 692
    Dwarfl0rd: What all-season tires did you get? Is the ride as rough as with the standard Michelins?
  • alana106alana106 Posts: 11
    I have a 2006 W Nav that came with the Michelin's. My previous car was a Deville, and I was having a tough time adjusting to the comparative stiff ride of the TL. After doing some research on these forums, I replaced the Michelins at 2k miles with a set of Toyo Proxe 4 all season tires. I am much happier with my car now. It rides smoother, and seems to handle just as well, though I can't say that I push the handling to the limits as others might. I haven't had the car in winter weather to comment, but didn't notice the Michelins as being noticeably bad in the rain.
    Alan
  • bartalk3bartalk3 Posts: 692
    The Toyo tires do give you a smoother, softer ride? Not as firm? Quite a switch from a Deville to a TL. What did you pay for the Toyos?
  • alana106alana106 Posts: 11
    It really was quite a change from the Deville, and I'm still not sure if I'll be keeping the TL as long as I normally would. I'm 55, and my old body may push me back to a softer riding car at some point, but the Toyos definitely made the car livable (softer riding) for now.
    Shop around if you do decide to go for the Toyos. I received price quotes of over $700 down to $564. I ran the $564 price by the dealer I went with, and he came up with $587 including tax lifetime balance and road hazard. This shop was more convenient, and also had Saturday hours, which was a must for me at the time.
    Good Luck
  • bartalk3bartalk3 Posts: 692
    I notice the Toyo tires you recommended are Z rated--what speed are Z tires rated for--excess of 180mph or something? Hard to imagine Z rated tires would be softer riding, but if that's your experience, so be it.
  • dwarfl0rddwarfl0rd Posts: 12
    Bar:
    I got the Goodyear Traction T/A
    http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=BFGoodrich&tireModel=Traction+T- %2FA+H&partnum=345HR7TTA&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&place=3&speed_ratin- g=HR&speed_rating=VR&speed_rating=ZR&speed_rating=WR&speed_rating=YR&minSpeedRat- ing=V

    These are junk. I saw the reviews and ratings and found them to be the best. Real world = very very loud, very firm ride, and they also flat spot, even overnight. They handle better than the Michelins and are less expensive, but thats all the pros. I cant wait till they get replaced.
  • armandarmand Posts: 178
    I put Continental Extremes on my 04 and are very please with them including their bad weather traction. See their Tire Rack rating.
  • alana106alana106 Posts: 11
    Bartalk3
    I will agree that you might not expect a better ride out of the Toyos, but I read several good reports on another forum before deciding to give them a try. The sidewall also felt plenty stiff when I examined them prior to the installation. The Proof came during the ride home. It was also confirmed by my wife, who had previously asked that we take our Van (Odyssey) when going out due to the rough ride of the TL. My friend, who rides with me frequently, also noticed the difference, prior to us getting out of my subdivision.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    We have an 04 TL with original equipment Bridgestone Turanza EL42 tires. These tires will need replacement soon and I am thinking of Bridgestone Turanza LS-Z or Michelin Pilot Sport A/S. Anybody with 04-06 TL put these tires on their car? Has anyone considered these tires but chose other brand/models? A new set of either summer or all-season is ok for us since we have a set of Dunlop winters mounted on an extra set of wheels.

    Thanks in advance.
  • bartalk3bartalk3 Posts: 692
    Ok, I'll take your word for it. I'll give 'em a try when I need new tires.
  • The tire dealer I use recommeded I replace my OEM tires with BFGoodrich g-Force Sport. I was considering Bridgestone Turanza LS-Z which are over $200 each. The BFGoodrich's are less than half that. Reviews on the internet are excellent. Any thoughts or comments? Thanks.
  • z71billz71bill Posts: 2,000
    Michelin bought the automotive tire business from BF Goodrich back in 1986/1987 - Uniroyal and Goodrich had already combined their tire operations - so when Michelin bought Goodrich they also got the Uniroyal brand.

    I am not 100% sure - its been quit a few years ago - But I think Michelin kept most of the USA BF manufacturing plants and produces some Michelin branded products in them. I seem to recall reading about how hard it was (at first) for the plants to manufacture products that were up to Michelin's standards.

    Eventually they were able to work the issues out and the higher standards required to produce michelin has carried over and made the BF /Uniroyal products better.
  • I am thinking of buying a TL but happened upon this forum. Are you serious that the tires that come with the TL are not adequate in the snow/rain? I live in the NE and this is important to me. I am looking at used 2004 TLs.
  • cassiricassiri Posts: 40
    I have had it with sliding around in the wet weather on my Michelin HMXM4's. They are $230 tires that came stock but they are terrible. They slide straight when turning in the wet and don't have very good dry traction either. I put 8,000 miles on them and have given up. Discount Tire gave me $50 per tire for them in trade. We will see if the Goodyear's live up to the hype in Car and Driver and on the Discount Tire website reviews.
  • Having major plroblems finding a multi-spoke chrome/black chrome wheels for my 06TL 6spd. The 6spd needs a 40mm offset?? We have tried 3 different wheels and no luck. I love the new black chrome wheels offered by Acura right now that have 18 spokes but wanted to find something that was a little different. Has anyone ran into this problem? If so what was your solution?
  • In a couple of message boards, I read there was a recall of some sort for original equipment Turanza Tires for wearing too fast. I barely have 20,000 miles on my 04 TL, and the back tires already need to be replaced... I was looking into replacing them and stumbled on these forums. Can anyone give me any details about recalls on these tires and/or have any suggestions with what tires to replace them with? The Turanza tires are terrible.
  • habitat1habitat1 Posts: 4,282
    I had the optional high performance Bridgestone Potenzas on my 04 TL 6-speed and replaced them at 19,000 miles. The Tourenzas appear to have been universally disliked, but I am not aware of any broad based recalls.

    As for replacements, you might want to call Tire Rack and have them give you their recommendations.
  • z71billz71bill Posts: 2,000
    If you read the reviews on tire rack on the Bridgestone EL42 they are for the most part very good. You even have several people saying - I don't know that all the problem is with the TL owners - but these tires are great!

    I do not know this for a fact - its just a guess - but I do know that sometimes a tire company will cut a special deal with a car manufacturer to provide a specific tire - brand and name (GoodYear RS-A for example) that is already being sold as a replacement - but make the tire cheaper. Maybe use a less expensive compound - or reduce the number or type of belts - or even reduce the SIZE. Not all GoodYear RS-A 205 50 17's are the same size - or have the same ratings. The tires that came stock on my Mazda3 for example were a couple pounds lighter that the same RS-A tire in the same size that went on the BMW 3 series. Mazda cut a few $ off the tire price - but still got the "same tire" that is on the BMW.

    I think some of the issue with the EL42 is due to Bridgestone (with Acura's approval) making a cheaper tire for the TL.

    70,000 cars a year * 4 tires * $5 a tire savings = $1,400,000. It all adds up.
  • waiwai Posts: 327
    You have a good point.
    You can imagine even a premium luxury car will try to cut their cost by giving a cheap tire, other lower priced cars will come with what.??? junk tire.
    Thats why I dumped my RSA tire with only 12,000 miles which is only slight worn but ride like a rock and install aftermarket tires.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    I think some of the issue with the EL42 is due to Bridgestone (with Acura's approval) making a cheaper tire for the TL.

    Interesting that replacement EL42 is about $180. High end Michelin or Bridgestone cost just a little more.

    Have an 04 TL that will need new tires soon. It has EL42's on it now. I recall reading Acura literature back in 04 that Acura engineers worked with Bridgestone engineering to design a tire (EL42) specifically for the TL. Acura wanted their certain attributes for ride, handling, quiet, rain and tread life. Is this not so with other car makers that might contract with a tire company to produce a tire specifically for a certain model?

    Thinking of getting Bridgestone LS-H, LS-V or Michelin Pilot Sport A/S.
  • So I went to get my car serviced at Santa Monica Acura after noticing that my 2 rear tires were wearing pretty prematurely (at about 20K miles). Well, they informed me that a "Service Bulletin" was issued sometime in Feb. about this same problem... apparently, it is an issue on ALL 2004 TLs and some 05's with the Bridgestone Turanza EL42s. Well, they told me that since I've driven over 20K miles, they would only take care of 25% of the cost of new replacement tires, and I would have to eat 75%. They would do a tire alignment under the warranty and install bump stops (whatever that is) to correct the problem. They told me that the entire 75% would be about $750.
    Well, upon doing some research, I read on the service bulletin that the replacement tires needed to be purchased from Tire Rack. I went on the TireRack.com, and found out that the tire was selling for $179 each ($716 for set of 4). After getting everything done, the dealer told me that I owed about $785 for everything... that's when I whipped out the prices from the TireRack web page. I told them that 75% of $716 is in fact $537. The service advisor took the printed pages, and disappeared for about 10-15 minutes to "talk to his supervisor". He came back and told me that the dealership sold the tires for $225 each, and that's why they quoted me that price. However, since I brought him this information, he was going to charge me the TireRack.com rate. For about 2 minutes research on the internet and printing out quoted prices from TireRack, I saved myself over $200. DO YOUR RESEARCH PEOPLE!!! These dealerships make enough money...no need to just hand yours over so freely. Also, check the web to find out what other "Service Bulletins" Acura issues to their dealerships. Whatever problems you may have with your car, Acura doesn't seem so willing to let you know about them.
    Cheers!
  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    I read on the service bulletin that the replacement tires needed to be purchased from Tire Rack.

    Huh?
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