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Oldsmobile Intrigue Starting/Stalling

I have a 2000 oldsmobile intrigue that i recently replaced the crankshaft sensor on due to the b circuit failing. I now turn the key and sometimes have to cycle it several times to get the motor to start. The motor will not crank at all while i am cycling the ignition. So if anyone has any ideas let me know. I also get a code now for the A circuit on the crankshaft sensor and a camshaft b circuit sensor code. not sure if it has anything to do with replacing the crankshaft sensor.
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  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    The engine taking a while to start could signal a problem with the fuel pressure regulator.

    What are the actual code numbers you are getting?
  • ron1967ron1967 Posts: 3
    my car starts no problem when the engine is cold or if it's been shut off and restarted within a few minutes, but if i shut the engine off and restart let's say after 30 minutes it takes several seconds for it to start. i actually need to press on the accelerator a bit for it to start. this proves to me that there is a fuel flow problem. i changed the fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator, spark plugs, cables, crank shaft sensor, cleaned the injectors and also the fuel railling. sometimes this problem goes away for several weeks and then comes back. please if anyone has addvice i would appreciate it, thanks!!
  • irlsirls Posts: 1
    i see everything listed there except a fuel filter, which is what your problem sounds like. try a filter they are cheap, around 10 bucks, it should be mounted along the frame rail under the car on the drivers side, if not there look in the engine compartment or possibly near the gas tank. hope that fixes your problem.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    Considering he has changed everything else, I would try the fuel filter (which is located along the driver side in front of the rear tire). I don't think that is the issue. Instead of changing parts, you need to get readings on the fuel pressure to confirm it is a fuel flow problem.

    The Intrigue has some "interesting" electrical and ignition issues that could cause the same problem. But he needs to confirm the fuel pressures first.

    Also knowing what engine he has will help.
  • every so often i have probs with the car not turning over. the security light goes on ..you can hear the gas pump running...yet nothing else happens. after waiting (any where from a few minutes to a few hours(usually 15-30 min) i will try again and it usually then turns right over.the guide say very little in dealing with the " security-pass"feature.one shop told me poss ibly the ign. key core and matching olds pass key etc might need to be replaced? ($385)....any ideas? it is a 98, 3.8....otherwise a good ride
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    It is most likely the ignition switch that is the problem. I would try cleaning the ignition switch first (spray WD-40 into the key hole). I bet if you did Google search on Intrigue ignition switch, you'd probably find websites that give detailed instruction on how to replace it yourself. From what I understand, it is not very hard.

    Update: I found the location of the directions to change the ignition switch. hope this helps: http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=653340
  • mtrammtram Posts: 6
    I have 99, 3.8 that is doing the same thing. Have you resolved your problem yet? The thing that makes no sense at all is I can go 3 or 4 days and it cranks right up..then 3 or 4 days it wont crank or do anything when I turn the key.

    Does your car also stall while driving?

    I have had the crank shaft sensor replaced, new starter, battery, fuel filter.
  • mtrammtram Posts: 6
    jacksonpg15...just curious if you have resolved your problem yet?
  • jberjber Posts: 1
    I have a 99, 107K, with the same situation. sometimes it has no problems starting, other times it refuses to turn over. doesnt matter hot or cold, if I just drove it, or its been sitting... the wierd thing is that I can usually get it to start by closing the drivers door while I have the key in the cranking position, or sometimes by putting the car in neutral. sometimes it takes both, sometimes nothing works except to keep trying. I get the same codes camshaft and crankshaft sensor., and the SES light is intermittent. Do I Replace the sensors? -saw the post about the camshaft sens., but how difficult is the crankshaft sensor? Any help would be appreciated-
    Jeff
  • gfoygfoy Posts: 1
    I HAVE A 99 INTRIGUE AND IT STARTED DYING WHILE I AM DRIVING SOMETIMES. THE RPM GUAGE DROPS IMMEDIATELY. THE SES LIGHT DOESN'T EVER COME ON. SOMETIMES THE RPM GUAGE WILL DROP ALL THE WAY DOWN THEN GO BACK UP WITHOUT DYING. THERE IS A HUMMING SOUND THAT COMES FROM THE BACK DRIVERS SIDE I THOUGHT IT MIGHT BE THE FUEL PUMP BUT IM NOT FOR SURE. I HAVE CHANGED THE FUEL FILTER. IT HAS 130000 MILES. SOMETIME AFTER I STOP AND TURN THE MOTOR OFF AND TRY TO START IT AGAIN IT DOESN'T WANT TO START AGAIN FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    Since both codes are showing, I would take it to a mechanic to have both sensors replaced. Not sure how easy or hard it is for a DIY to do the work. Try a Google search.
  • tcjefftcjeff Posts: 23
    I have a '99 Intrigue with the 3.5 L engine - when I first start it up, it starts okay, but after a couple minutes of driving, the engine just dies. I can start the engine again easily enough, and once it warms up, I don't have this problem again, but obviously I want to find a solution. BTW, about 3,000 miles ago I had the fuel filter replaced as well as the spark plugs and the plug boots.
    Any ideas would be very welcome.
  • nihi99nihi99 Posts: 2
    my battery died and i had a jump but that didnt work then i charged it and that dot work i have full power to my lights and interior can some one help
  • indrgbindrgb Posts: 115
    Remove the negaive then positve battery terminals. Check for corrosion at the positive battery connection and wire terminal. Also look for any other problems on both positive and negative. Sometimes corrosion will allow small currents to flow from the battery, but not large current required for starting.
  • My only issue with starting is that sometimes when the engine is warm, it will stall out once or twice before it finally catches. The car only has 91,000 miles, and is pretty clean, inside and out. If I press down on the gas pedal before I turn the key, I know it will stay running, but it revs way up before it settles down. You can see the needle jump on the tach, then drop to about 500 RPM's, them climb back up and stay at about 750. If the engine is cold, it will go right to idle speed. This is more of a nuisance than a problem, I suspect that it is possibly a faulty TPS. Sound familiar to anyone ?
  • dio__2dio__2 Posts: 6
    I need to replace the CKP on my 2001 oldsmobile intrigue. I found instructions for replacement on the 2002 intrigue here http://car.justanswer.com/oldsmobile/yito-2002-oldsmobile-intrigue

    Does anyone know if its the exact same procedure for the 2001? Also, does anyone know a way to measure the bolt tightness...cheaply? I would like to thank everyone here for helping me so far. I have read many posts since joining last year.

    I don't have the money for labor but I found the part cheaply at rockauto.com. I am not a genius under the hood but I am going to try to change it myself. I'll report back and let everyone know how it goes.
  • dtownfbdtownfb Posts: 2,915
    I think it is safe to assume that the procedure is the same. GM had already made the decision to kill Oldsmobile. There are very few changes made in Intrigues built after 2000.

    You can get a torque wrench at Sears (or KMart) fairly cheap. Or try a place like Harbor Freight. Some auto parts stores will loan you tools as well.
  • dio__2dio__2 Posts: 6
    I replaced the crankshaft position sensor!!! That's a big accomplishment for me because I had never even changed a flat tire before.

    After I replaced the CPS, I tried to start the car and nothing!!! It wouldn't even start to crank. I don't know if its the battery or the starter or something else. The radio and all of the console lights work, so I guess its not the battery. I hadn't even started my car for 5-6 months before replacing the CPS. The car would crank before my repair.

    Before I tell everyone how to change the CPS, I would like to make sure that I did it correctly.
  • dio__2dio__2 Posts: 6
    Update, I disconnected the wrong battery terminal before starting. I disconnected the negative cable. Could this be why my car won't crank over now, or is it the battery?
  • coonhoundcoonhound Posts: 174
    I have the exact same problem on a 2000 with 94000 miles. I am hoping that you found the problem and can enlighten me. I am leaning toward the fuel pressure regulator. I hear the pump running for 5 seconds or so when engine is warm, but nothing with cold start.
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