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2009/2010 Honda Fit

rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
Apparently honda is working on a next gen fit. The Fit is over 5 to 6 years old in non USA markets. Honda is building every USA fit in Japan which could lead to a shortage of current gen Fits in the USA. New Fit has some euro civic influences.

http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6447cr4.jpg

Dont know if it's the real deal but seems very accurate. Car should come out in 2008 as a 2009 model at the earliest.
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  • Is this for real? This looks like a squished Odyssey. I like the look of my Fit Sport better. I wonder how it's different inside and under the hood, though?
  • rv65rv65 Posts: 1,074
    Yep it's very real. Fit is already 6 years old in Japan. Honda want's to make a 2nd gen version. USA fit's are made in Japan. There is a possibility to make them in the new Indiana factory which should have enough capacity. Then they can export some to mexico without relying on Brazil. I will post some more pics. It does look a bit like the current version with some cues of other cars.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    I actually like the look of the new one better. The sideskirts look too tacked-on for my taste. The new one lookds cleaner.
  • ifitifit Posts: 18
    I read somewhere that it will be longer wider and have better gas mileage. I hope they will give us a few more inches of legroom in the backseat for American sized legs.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    the fits rear seat room is wonderful...better than some made in america for america cars.

    the jdm fit is actually a bit smaller than ours, so this generation (the current one) was already sized up for us. Having said that, the next gen should be a bit bigger.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    Are you sure the JDM Fit is smaller? I mean, beyond differences in bumpers? They appear to me to be the same car, with only trim differences.

    I think the current rear seat is remarkably roomy given the size of the car, but a little more leg and hip room wouldn't hurt, if it can be done without hurting fuel economy.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    yeah, from what i have read, the jdm version is not as wide as ours, and it equates to more than just bumper sizes. but i dunno, thats just going by what i read online. I could be wrong.

    It would be nice for some more legroom for passengers i guess, because as a general rule, more space is always good. But on the same note, i think that there are more cars out there that should be bestowed with this other than the fit.

    If the fit grows for the next generation, as long as they supply a slighlty (i'm talking under 1.8litres) bigger, more advanced engine (the l15 is not new at all), similiar if not better fuel economy would be very easy to attain.
  • Aside from the bumpers, current JDM Fit is no different than USDM Fit size-wise.

    New Fit is 50mm longer wheelbase, 55mm longer overall. Largest engine is still 1.5L, but w/ ~120hp.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    thanks for the clarification.

    like the horsepower numbers...its not hard for honda to eck them out...120hp means this engine is making as much hp as the bmw 1.6 in the mini, without needing premium fuel.
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  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    As the review says, it does look like Honda addressed all the shortcomings of the current Fit. The biggest thing for me is the telescopic wheel, which should solve the main problem I have with the Fit--the driving position. (No word on a height adjuster, which would be welcome also.) And it looks better, has a smoother ride, more power, more back seat legroom, and more cargo room. Although I'm not sold yet on deleting the spare tire. Call me old fashioned.

    The dash design is... interesting. To me it looks like Honda was trying a little too hard to appeal to young people, but I can live with it. At least it has regular gauges, in front of the driver. I wonder what the dash will look like without nav, which I'll bet the U.S. doesn't get?

    I might have to put my name in for a 2009 base Fit MT pretty soon. :)
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    woo backsters is coming to the upright H! ;)

    I like the new look, but i think that the RS version's lines are much more pleasing.

    the interior follows suit with all of honda's offerings now, so the fit/civic/accord has a family look to them.

    Backy, if you look at the pictures, there is a seat height adjuster shown, along with bigger bolsters, and a footrest. I like the sunroof option too!

    and the best thing? more power, and only 22lbs added. Incredible. Go honda.

    wonder what the dash will look like without nav, which I'll bet the U.S. doesn't get?

    i'm anxious to know this too. i took a long look at the dash and realized a lot of it is evoltionary from the current model. Glad to see they added an armrest standard (although its not as nice as the one on the current jdm version.) and a foot rest.

    I would like to call out edmunds on their never-ending contradictory reviews.

    Not only did they originally praise the fits suspension set up, but only after the xd came out did it suddenly become an issue.

    But when on earth did the fits HANDLING become an issue!? :mad: Faster slalom times than the civic OR the mazda 3 sport and they say that the new version can now take corners without having its door handles touch the floor? WTF?

    I'm sure the new gen will handle even better than the gd3, but if the gd3 is subject to this kind of remark, then they need to rewrite their rabbit review to include its massive amounts of body roll.

    All in all, the car looks great though. its now only 2 hp down from the naturally aspirated 1.6 in the mini, which requires PREMIUM.

    Interesting note: the fit has a 9hp increase, and a claimed 21 lbts of torque increase? 107-21=86. I can't ever remember the current gen fit being rated at 86lbs of torque. No way. thats got to be a typo.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    FWIW I have owned multiple Hondas (Civics) and loved them, and I love the Fit too except for the driving position. I'm not married to any one brand. If I like the car, I'll buy it. So I was really looking forward to the next-gen Fit, and it does appear it will be much improved and arrive just in time for my purchase timeframe.

    Backy, if you look at the pictures, there is a seat height adjuster shown,...

    Thanks, I missed that. But keep in mind that the old JDM Fit has a height adjuster, and it has one in several other markets, and we don't. So I'll wait to see what actually comes ashore.

    I just hope the fuel economy is at least as good as the current Fit.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    for the first 2009 base Fit AT in silver or red to hit my local dealership next fall. When I told the sales rep that I wanted to get on the wait list for a 2009 Fit, he looked surprised and said, "2009? You mean 2008, right?" So I explained what I wanted to do. He strolled over to the sales manager, and asked if they had a wait list for the 2009 Fit. "2009?!..." etc. once again. He said no, but no reason they couldn't start one. So the sales rep sat down with me and wrote it up. No pricing known of course, only that it would be for MSRP (they don't discount their 2008 Fits now). I didn't need to leave a deposit. I was impressed that this sales rep seemed knowledgable about the 2009 Fit and knew for example that it would have a telescopic wheel. He asked "how about a Civic?" and I explained I wanted a 5-door hatch.

    So I have my place in line, and I have about a year to determine if I'll pull the trigger on that Fit or go with something else (with the Elantra Touring, another 5-door, and the Versa the main alternatives as of now). I am hoping the Fit will show up in my neck of the woods as early as the spring auto shows.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    congrats backy! what color are you hoping for? auto or manual?
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    As I noted in my post, my color preferences are silver and red. Hard to say exactly what colors will be available or what they'll look like, but I thought silver and red would be available and pretty safe bets. If there's a nice gray or blue I might like that, but who knows what they'll look like?

    Also, I noted I asked for an AT. I'd personally prefer the stick, but I had a bad experience with my last MT car, an Elantra, where my oldest son and wife trashed the clutch (which they admitted after it broke) and that cost me $1300. Since this car will sometimes be driven by my wife and will be handed down to my daughter in a few years, I thought the AT was the safest bet. Also, when I drove the current Fit, I didn't like the notchiness of the stick, but did appreciate the fact that the 5AT revved nice and low when cruising--like 1500 rpms in town and low 2000s at 60-65 mph. So I'm going with the AT.
  • eldainoeldaino Posts: 1,618
    sweet. I didn't see that you had mentioned that earlier, i didn't go back to that initial post but its cool. I expect a very complete review from you when the time comes! ;)
  • Like some of you here, my color choice is a bit on the practical side, as I look for an exterior color that seems to improve safety and an interior color that's cooler in the hot California climate. Considered orange and red exterior colors, but they absorb too much heat for my liking. So white seems to be my best choice, and a recent study indicates that white has less tickets/accidents and high visibility. Unfortunately white/beige is not offered in 2008 Fit, and there's no leftover 2007 Fit. Does anybody know if white ext./beige int. will be offered for model year 2009 Fit? Thanks.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,715
    When I put my reservation in on a 2009 Fit a few weeks ago, the dealer didn't know anything about color choices. It's likely we won't know until the car is formally announced for the U.S. But white is such a popular color, I think it's very likely it will be available for 2009. Beige interior, that's another thing.
  • kernickkernick Posts: 4,072
    and a recent study indicates that white has less tickets/accidents and high visibility.

    That high visibility might be in a warm clime; white is not very visible in the snow-belt on a snowy day! You get the white, I'll take the red or orange!
  • Good point. Red/orange is much more visible, especially on a snowy day. I just had a bad impression with such hot colors after test driving a red Accord on a scorching Calif. afternoon. If a white Fit is not available, bright yellow (if offered) would be my next choice (for my preference of high visibility and low heat absorbtion, so don't flame me on aesthetic ground as we all have different taste :) . In the photos of the Japanese model, there's a yellow one, so I'm crossing my finger.
  • ryandkryandk Posts: 18
    Does anyone know if leather seats will be an option on the North American Fit? It would be nice to have some of the luxury options available on smaller cars, just as they are available overseas.

    I've been checking out the UK and Australian Honda sites. I'd love to buy this in yellow.
  • Agreed. If the Fit comes over here with that option I will upgrade without hesitation. I hope Honda Japan monitors these posts!
  • tiff_ctiff_c Posts: 531
    Does anyone know if the new model will have the Sport seats as shown in the pics of the RS model?
    I'd love to have nice seats like that! Built in armrests too! But no way would I want a huge sunroof like that. Is that going to be optional? The way I sunburn that would be a deal killer for me to have 4 acres of sunroof. Plus the car would be top heavy as well.
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    Does anyone know if leather seats will be an option on the North American Fit? It would be nice to have some of the luxury options available on smaller cars, just as they are available overseas.

    Sorry, but no leather seats for the Fit.
  • ryandkryandk Posts: 18
    Jacksan1 --

    Do you have full details on the options that will be available? Could you please list them here?

    Thanks!

    Ryan
  • jacksan1jacksan1 Posts: 504
    Do you have full details on the options that will be available? Could you please list them here?

    I don't have access to all the available features for the NA Fit yet. Stay tuned.

    The leather seats will not happen. I know that much. However, for the JDM Fit, Honda offers a genuine leather seat cover, which may or may not become available for the USDM Fit. It's very expensive, though, at 95,000 yen pre-tax, which translates into USD $840 at today's exchange rate.

    Leather seats are not mentioned in any of the new Fit spec sheets that I have seen.
  • tiff_ctiff_c Posts: 531
    I don't have access to all the available features for the NA Fit yet. Stay tuned

    Any word on the Sport seats yet? Those are a big deal for me even tho the car is for my wife.
  • ryandkryandk Posts: 18
    Oops --

    Sorry about that. I must have mis-read one of the other English language Honda sites (probably UK or Australia). I thought one of them mentioned leather seats.

    Oh well...
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