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  • lemkolemko Posts: 15,068
    I'd prefer the tighter suspension as my driving style is more spirited than that of the typical Buick owner. I'm sure my '88 just has the regular suspension as it came two generations prior to the last Park Aves. Here's a little history on the 1997-2005 Park Avenue Ultra I found:

    Redesigned for 1997, Buick's "flagship" front-drive luxury sedan faced such rivals as the Infiniti I30, Lexus EX 300, and Oldsmobile Aurora. Wheelbase grew by three inches, overall length by about an inch. Weight also went up, by some 250 pounds. Styling was strictly evolutionary. Two models went on sale: a base Park Avenue and the plusher Park Avenue Ultra. Each carried a 3.8-liter V6 engine, but the one in the Ultra was supercharged to deliver 240 horsepower. The base V6 was rated at a more modest 205 horsepower. Both were teamed with a revised 4-speed automatic transmission, whose new electronic torque converter clutch was designed to produce smoother shifts. A redesigned interior featured unique seats that anchored both the lap and shoulder belts to the seat itself. The belts moved with the seats, to improve comfort for very tall or very short drivers. Buick's Personal Choice system, standard in Park Avenue, included a remote entry transmitter that could automatically adjust the driver's seat, outside mirrors, automatic door locks, lighting, and other accessories to either of two settings. This year, it added sound and climate adjustments, retained accessory power, and daytime running lights. A newly optional head-up display projected speedometer and other gauge readings onto the windshield. Also joining the option list: rain-sensing wipers and a dust filter for the automatic climate-control system.

    1998 Buick Park Avenue: Park Avenue sedan gained some enhanced safety and convenience features for 1998. Dual airbags got reduced inflation power to deploy with less force (but still meet federal safety standards). A new passenger-side mirror, standard on Ultra and optional on the base model, tilted downward when reverse gear was engaged. Buick dealers could now install GM's OnStar communications system. That system linked the car by satellite and cellular telephone to a 24-hour GM center from which advisors could provide directions and travel advice, and also notify local authorities during an emergency situation.

    1999 Buick Park Avenue: Changes were modest for '99, including the addition of "Elite Walnut" interior trim to the Park Avenue Ultra, and availability of a tire-pressure monitor gauge. The tire-monitor was standard on the Ultra edition.

    2000 Buick Park Avenue: Front side airbags went into both 2000 models. GM's StabiliTrak system became standard on the Ultra and optional on the base Park Avenue. Designed to sense an impending skid in a turn and apply the brakes to an individual wheel, to keep the car on its intended course. Both models also gained child-seat anchors on the rear package shelf.

    2001 Buick Park Avenue: Ultrasonic rear parking assist was a new option for 2001, while leather upholstery and an interior memory system became standard on base models.

    2002 Buick Park Avenue: Steering-wheel radio and climate controls became standard on both models for 2002.

    2003 Buick Park Avenue: Ultra gets three chrome-plated "VentiPorts" on each front fender. Associated with Buick since 1949 and last seen in the 1980s, these design icons also increase engine-compartment airflow, Buick says. Other retro additions to Ultra are a "waterfall" grille, tri-shield Buick insignia, and chrome exhaust tips.

    2004 Buick Park Avenue: No significant changes were made in '04.

    2005 Buick Park Avenue: In '05, Park Avenue gets revisions to grille and taillamps, and the base model gains the front-fender "portholes" previously reserved for the top-line Park Avenue Ultra. Buick says 2005 is the final model year for Park Avenue.
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,118
    Good info on the PA/Ultra, but nothing about the touring suspension.
  • sls002sls002 Posts: 2,788
    The touring suspension was still an option. I can say that the new body design (Aurora body or G-body) resulted in a different suspension design, which took GM a couple of years to refine, as both the 95 Riviera and Aurora suspension under went some refinements, which were incorporated in the 97 Park Avenue. GM's older suspension design involved the basic idea that the body (or frame) was not "stiff" but would absorb some of the bumps in the road. The big difference in the suspension refinements were added suspension travel I think, as my 95 Riviera would bottom out at times, while my 98 Aurora did not, nor did my 2002 Seville. All would drag the front end on pavement if the driveways were a bit too steep.

    My Aurora did handle a bit better than the Seville. My Seville was the luxury sedan, not the touring sedan (STS). But neither car was a sport sedan, and I doubt that the Park Avenue with the Grand Touring Suspension is a lot better than the base suspension. The big difference is probably the upgraded tires that came with the suspension package. I find that my Cadillac SRX is way better handling that any of the G-bodies that I owned, and I have yet to find a driveway steep enough to cause either the front or rear end to scrape pavement.
  • torque_rtorque_r Posts: 500
    I thought this car would be fine with the 430hp from the base Corvette. But now I realized why GM decided to go with the 505hp 7.0 V8. The car is some 200-300 pounds heavier than its competitors. Let's just hope it can keep up with the handling.
  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    The CTS is a barge, but so is everything else in its class. The IS-F weighs 3800 pounds. :mad: I remember complaining that the old IS 300 was overweight at 3200. :cry:
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,896
    Geez, my E55 weighs 3800 lbs - and it looks a bit bigger than an IS. It also feels like a pretty heavy car, even with the power and torque.
  • IS-F specs

    Length (in): 183.5
    Width (in): 71.5
    Height (in): 55.7
    Wheelbase (in): 107.5
    Legroom, front (in): 43.9
    Legroom, rear (in): 30.6
    Headroom, front (in): 37.2
    Headroom, rear (in): 36.7
    Maximum Seating Capacity: 4
    Cargo Volume (cu-ft): 13.3
    Maximum Cargo Volume, rear seats down (cu-ft): Not specified

    Manufacturer Curb Weight (lb): 3,780 (3,780 as tested)

    E55 and IS350 specs doesn't have the IS-F up yet.

    The E55 Looks to be about 6 inches longer but about the same curb weight.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,896
    Those comparisons are cool, I forgot about those
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    I was just curious ????? Lemko, could buy one of these for his girlfriend !!! ;)

  • bumpybumpy Posts: 4,435
    Seems nice enough, but it would no doubt sell better as an Opel/Saturn.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    Seems nice enough, but it would no doubt sell better as an Opel/Saturn.

    Perhaps but I think Saab, can become a profitable european influenced sport/lux manufacturer. ;)

  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    Perhaps but I think Saab, can become a profitable european influenced sport/lux manufacturer.

    Keep dreaming
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011

    Saab, is on it's way up because GM, has made a commitment and Volvo, well is on it's way down because Ford, will not have the money to revive it. Volvo, will be left to wither away like Saab, did for almost 10 years. ;)

    We will see who's right !!!! ;)

  • torque_rtorque_r Posts: 500
    Ford has put a lot more resources into Volvo than GM did for Saab. Ford will probably sell Volvo soon enough to be saved by a different owner. As for Saab, it will never sell like Volvo, because it's a quirky brand selling quirky cars. The moment GM decides to make it more mainstream, the moment Saab looses its charm and becomes like any other brand. And then what's the point if that happens? GM already has Cadillac and Buick.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    Well Saab will become like Volvo is to Ford, a unique European flavor. :) I do believe Saab, can become more mainstream and if the sell as well as Audi, BMW, etc, then they have reached a once impossible goal. Sure GM, is several years away from accomplishing that goal but it should be what they are shooting for with Saab. ;)

  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    Wagoner asks SEC to raise threshold on what shareholders can propose. /AUTO01

  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    The fundamental difference is that Ford has not altered Volvo's Corp culture or identity.
    Volvo is allowed to do their own design and engineering.
    GM has virtually removed all product decisions from Trollhatten.
    They are now made in Detroit and Russelsheim.
    You can't disembowl a company like GM did and expect it to recover.
  • rockyleerockylee Posts: 14,011
    Time will tell !!!! ;)

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