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Use your scan gauge to check for an error code again. Check all the fuses if you didnt already. If you dont have an error code set its pretty hard to imagine what is wrong. I will think some more. At least it doesnt seem to happen often?
As to your problem. You seem to indicate that the stalling incidents occur weeks apart. Is that so? Also you see with your scan gauge there are no error codes in the computer. The fact that there are no codes indicates that while there may be a problem, it isnt going to cause dammage to the car. An ignored set code on the computer potentially COULD dammage the car. But you dont have that. So I would continue to post your efforts here and we will help you. Continue to live with the problem and hopefully something will occur to us. My 240D knocked on startup for years but otherwise ran fine. One day I changed the fuel injectors and POOF the knocking went away!
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fuel cap incorrectly installed, fuel cap dammaged, vacuum hose dammaged loose, fuel tank cracked, charcoal cannister dammaged, open or short in vapor pressure circuit, vapor pressure sensor, fuel tank overfill check valve dammaged, ECM,
Basically you check the fuel cap and hope thats it. If not its something to do with the fuel evaporitive control system.
PO440 is the fuel cap. PO441 and 446 are the evap system.
Good News/Bad News: the GN is this is not something likely to affect the drivability of the engine or dammage the cat or something. (unless its the ECN of course...unlikely IMO) If you cant find and fix the problem you should be able to drive the car OK. Also, this is something the dealer should be able to fix as they see this a lot. The BN is the car probably wont pass an inspection as most states now check for error codes rather thsan test emissions.
Good luck and tell us what you find out!
And mine is already past 106,000. In fact, on Friday it turned over 108,200. :-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
And this happened right after I got an oil change. Coincidence? I don't know. I guess it could of came off by accident. But I'm not taking my car to that shop anymore.
Just saying because if the garage has done right by you in the past it would be a shame to lose a good place to have your car fixed. Unless of course its Jiffy Lube or equal. Then I advise not going there!
The car did great! The only problem I had was trying to tolerate my son's music.
Years ago I swapped the ECHO for his 2004 Jeep Grand Cherokee because he commutes many miles each day. I told him I would swap back any time. He said it was the best deal he ever made so will keep the ECHO.
I agreed.
And this despite my generally miserly ways when it comes to scheduled maintenance! It's due for plugs at 120K, and I think I will ask them to check the valve clearance at that time, a check which I don't think has ever been done before.
Between the long life tires I bought, which look like they will go at least 70K miles or more (they are at 50K miles already, with 6/32" of tread remaining), and the timing chain it has instead of a belt, this has been easily THE CHEAPEST car to run that I have ever owned. Not to mention being a perfect little car to commute in, with lots of interior space despite its smallness on the outside, and its superb fuel economy and easy driveability.
It turned six at the end of October this year, and despite my frequent urge to trade cars I am thinking I might still have this one when it turns ten. At the current rate, that will be at about 190K miles. :-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Speaking of minicars, funny observation: I happened to park right next to a Smart car today, and now I truly have an accurate perspective on its size - it's rear bumper only extended to the door post behind the Echo's front door, when the front bumpers were lined up! The Echo had a full passenger door and a trunk beyond the end of the Smart! Wow, THAT'S small.
My Echo is probably going to need a new battery this winter, maybe that will be my incentive to trade it in for something new.............just kidding! ;-)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Is there a connection between oil changes and CEL coming on? sounds odd to me???
It could be as simple as your gas cap. Is it loose, or is the gasket bad? Check it out.
440 441 and 446 have to do with the gas fume evaporative control system. You could have a loose hose or possible a bad charcoal cannister. Youd want to check all the hoses going to and from the gas tank and charoal cannister for cracks, kinks, or just being loose. 446 is the cannister 440 is the tank. So its something around there. Also could be a loose hose on the air filter because hoses come from those things to it.
Good news: since its emissions related possibly it is still under warranty.
Good news: not likely to cause dammage if you run with it UNLESS your cannister is full of gas in which case that makes it a bomb. Easy to check that.
Good luck and let us know what you find out!
Seriously it happens but its rare. I think you can forget about a warranty claim!
You know anything about this new toyota Iq. Was a concept car to compete with the Smart. Is already in Europe/ Asia etc, but is suppose to be available in US with safety and emission mods. They say it gets over 55MPH.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Now if I can just find a 2002, 2003, and a 2005 I will have one of every year they made them!
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
How many 2004s were sold? I know theres not a lot of 2005s around. Maybe theyll be worth more! :P
It's the '05 that is super rare. '04s are around, although if you like the revised body style of the second half of the model run, the '03s are much easier to find.
Anything they might have done to reduce body roll or stiffen up the suspension would be most welcome though.
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
Will it even still be on the road when that display reads 333,333?
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
2014 Mini Cooper (stick shift of course), 2016 Camry hybrid, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (keeping the stick alive)
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