Infiniti G35 Sedan 2006 and earlier

35fan · February 2002

Exactly right. For the price, the G35 is the best thing going - on paper. I believe Infiniti will deliver, but til then, it's a guess. Power and handling seem to be covered.
I believe the G35 has better styling than the competition - inside and out. BMW, Acura, Lexus all look as though they were designed by very competent committees.
G35 seems to have a stronger design concept. Yes, it leads to some quirks, but overall, I feel that the design is stronger for it. I'm tired of the bland aerodynamic styling of other companies - too many cars looking too similar.
Also, the auto transmission is a good selection for me. 95% driving in stop and go city traffic. Unfortunate, but that's life.

troyy2k · February 2002

Do any infiniti dealers in the Los Angeles area have the G35 in their showrooms for display? Thanks

corkfish · February 2002

How firm is the fall introduction of the 6 speed? I'm torn between this car and the EVO VII. All wheel drive that will do 0 to 60 in 4.7 seconds for the high 20's. The G35 has a more adult appearence though. Decisions, decisions.

maybeg35 · February 2002

Something on the gearshift maybe. All this talk about BMW is getting to me. I owned a 2001 330I with everything inc. NAV (joke btw). It had the sport package and while we test drove this car before we bought it, living with one is a different story.
The steering was loose as hell and the ride was terrible. The suspension pounded your [non-permissible content removed] into the seat. BMW actually offered a steering fix by changing the steering rack at no charge but I did not do it. I held onto this for three months and sold it for $500 less than I paid for it. Germans do not know how to make comfortable seats unless you spend 60K for the car. The workmanship of the 330I stiching in the seats was not great. The best thing that car had going for it was a folding rear seat. Listening Infiniti? I paid 40,500 for a custom order car with a 43,500 MSRP. If the G35 lives up to the hype for in my case $35K, I'll be very happy.

35fan · February 2002

See the following post to see wood door handles. 35fan Jan 25, 2002 11:17am

Other wood trim is the shift knob. No wood on console.

a701440 · February 2002

Well,
If 95% of your driving is stop and go city
driving then why on earth do you need a relatively large, powerfull, RWD vehicle ?
Is it to step on it from a light 200 yards down to the next light ? I bet that an experienced city driver can keep up with you in that hybrid toyota/honda thing making 60 miles per gallon.

ruski · February 2002

260 torque in the Norstar? I think GM gets 300 lbs*ft torque from the Norstar in Seville STS.

automanual gate - this has nothing to do with left hand drive or right hand drive or Infiniti forgetting to switch sides. Different cars have the gate on different sides - Acura has it on the left, Audi and VW on the right side. I think Lincoln LS has it on the right side too. Chrysler 300M has it at the bottom of the shift plate and shifting action is <-->.

dl7265 · February 2002

to confirm that was 3% off invoice ?

thanks
DL

dl7265 · February 2002

Can i get mine with a Carbon fiber drive shaft and Brembo brakes just like the Z350 , too bad i need the 4 doors ;(.

DL

hpia4v2 · February 2002

Well, I put alot of skeptic on paper specs. Only thing I experience was Lexus RX300 VS X5 3.0i. Here the stats taken drom Edmunds web side (I also confirmed them againts their brochures).

Lexus RX300: 3924Lb weight, 222Ft-lbs and 220HP

BMW X5: 4519Lb weight, 214Lb/ft and 225HP

Any magazine quotes BMW faster though it's 600 pund heavier and less torque. And my test drive confirm it! You what they said, "German ponies are bigger"

Also the M3 is one of the engine marvels, 333HP from an inline six with no Turbo/Blower ala Benz C32 or Audi S4.
Also wasn't it Infiniti who was in deep water for overstating the 0-60 numbers?

norcalmike2 · February 2002

Wasn't that Mazda when they said the Miata had more power than it actually had? I remember reading something about Mazda having to buy back the cars if the comsumer did not want the car.

rezo00 · February 2002

all makers overstate performance, and even some magazines do, thats why it is always more logical to at least take an average of all the 0-60 magazine numbers...thats usually a little closer to the truth, and believe nothing the manufacturer tells you.
I really wish someone would do some nonbiased auto reporting, call it NBAN NonBiased Auto News
no subjective bull in the text about feal of materials, just numbers and picturers so we can see for ourself, also include insurance claimes ratings to asses reliability. Everything else is subjective.

b4z · February 2002

Reread my post. It is referring to the the 4.0L Northstar, not the 4.6L motor

riez · February 2002

For a car that hasn't been sold yet to the public, all these claims about sterling reliability seem odd. We won't know how reliable it is until about CY 2005-07. (I probably wouldn't want to buy the first year's model.)

Wondering if any of you are disappointed that the manual transmission won't come out until 2004 MY. The AutoWeek article says "a true manual transmission won't show up until the G35 enters its second model year".

And NO limited slip differential: "we would have liked a [LSD], but Infiniti says with traction control and VDC it's unnecessary." Odd, the 6-speed manual Maxima SE can be had with LSD. Wonder if the future G35 6-speed manual will too?

gandhim3... The G35 is being introduced today. So you have to compare it to what is out there today! Sure, BMW introduced certain models after the original introduction. But the 325Xi AWD was introduced in mid-1980s, about 15 years ago! The convertible came out in late 1980s. The 3 Series originally came out as a 2 door, then the 4 door was added. But both have been around since mid-1980s. The M3 has also been around for over a decade. Infiniti has been around since the late 1980s when all these 3 Series models were out. But they choose to introduce G35 initially ONLY as a 4-door sedan automatic. Odd and interesting.

dpepper · February 2002

That's what the guy said. Here is the link

http://forums.freshalloy.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=14

gandhim3 · February 2002

Riez -

I was referring specifically with the timeline for E46 version of the 3 series line. Everyone knows that the 3er has been around for a while.

If you apply your logic, then even Lexus does not have a chance against BMW because applying the grandfather clause means BMW has been around selling all their cars long before Lexus ever existed, and so Lexus is incompetent and does not have a chance. Thats BS! Turning the tables, BMW no longer sells the compact version of the new 3er, but Infiniti continues to sell the smaller G20. (Hey, it is in the G-model family) Does that make BMW inferior and Infiniti superior?!

Introducing new car models is a capital intensive process. Besides the huge manufacturing investment, there is also inventory, and administrative overhead. No car company is going to introduce all the versions of their model at the same time. Besides not having the resources to do so, there is also substantial risk. Say for example (NOT true, but used just for arguments sake), that the latest E46 3er sedan was a collosal flop because it did not live up to the "BMWness" assocaited with the marque. If they just released the sedan, BMW can hold of releasing the other variations and go back to fix whatever was wrong. Now IF BMW had released all the variations at the same time and they were all a collective flop in the marketplace, then BMW would be hurting very badly.

You cannot go around comparing the 3er with the G35, and then go back a decade or two. Selling cars is a business, and Infiniti has to justify the investment. Infiniti will have to sell (successfully) the new G35 with an automatic, to warrant in investment from parent Nissan for other models like the manual and the coupe.

riez · February 2002

The April 2002 issue of Bimmer Magazine has a sales breakdown of the 3 Series during the January-November 2001 time period. During these 11 full months BMW sold 93,827 3 Series. There were 12 different models, ranging from 325i 4-door sedan up to M3 convertible. (These 12 models could be further broken down by manual and automatic transmission, but aren't in these figures.)

All Sedans: About 53,000 or 56.5%
All Coupes: About 16,000 or 17%
All Convert: About 17,600 or 18.7%
All Wagons: About 3,200 or 3.4%
All M's: About 4,900 or 5.3%

Almost 45 percent of 3 Series sales are NOT the average 4-door sedan. (There is some double counting above due to M's.)

Will be interesting to see how many models of the G35 Infiniti ends up introducing. And how their percentage sales break down over time.

crankster · February 2002

I've never owned an automatic transmission, but after driving my 01 MB C240 6-speed for over a year --which is just about the worst clutch/transmission combo I've ever had--I'm looking forward to the auto G35 I have ordered. Wanting a stick in the MB cornered me into the pathetic excuse for an engine at 168 hp, that also happens to sound like a Chevy Lumina at idle.

I'll take a great-shifting automatic over a poorly-executed manual transmission anyday.

riez · February 2002

cranster... Is a question of choices for potential buyers and whether Infiniti wants G35 to be a serious sport sedan. What is the point of having 260 HP, 52/48 weight distribution, RWD, and Sport Pkg option if you can't get a manual transmission as an option, for those who prefer manuals? If all you want is an automatic, why not buy an I-35, base or Sport??? It will likely meet most of your needs.

I'll take a good manual over the best automatic any day. Heck, I'll take a decent manual over a good automatic any day. But I'm not sure there is such a thing as a truly great slushbox! Is a bit of an oxymoron.

Infiniti will lose real sales and real publicity due to not having a manual immediately. Just like Lexus did with IS300. You only get one chance to make a great first impression in this crowded, competitive market segment!

I couldn't imagine an automatic in my 540i 6-speed. I hear 540iA Sports are nice, but not for me. The GM automatic in my wife's 323iA is quite nice. To each their own. But having a choice is best!!!

riez · February 2002

gandhim3... Some observations:

1. BMW 3 Series has cleaned the sales clock of Lexus IS300. Not even close in sales comparison. IS300 board posters at Edmunds have noted how sales have fallen even as IS300 line is expanded to wagon and manual. First impressions are everything! IS300 didn't live up to them. You don't often get a 2nd chance. That is why the initial impression of new G35 is so critical. BMW, Lexus, MB, Volvo, etc. are not standing still!!!

2. Last time I looked, Nissan was and is one of the WORLD's LARGEST car companies. Maybe somewhere around 5-7th place after GM, Ford, Toyota, and DC. Not sure if bigger than VW or not. And Nissan has Renault's considerable resources behind them. Thus Nissan dwarfs BMW in terms of capital, employees, resources, etc. Nissan is a worldwide giant. They build cars in USA, Europe, and Japan. Do you honestly believe Nissan lacked the money, talent, or resources to launch G35 with both manual and coupe upon introduction???

3. How long has the Nissan Skyline been around? How many markets has it been sold in? Hasn't it been around a long, long time?

4. BMW (like Nissan) has many models in other markets that they either never bring to USA or drop if sales expectations aren't met. You can't buy a 4-cylinder BMW in USA anymore. You can around the world. You can even get odd things like 520i or 520i Touring in Europe you can't get here. BMW also sells diesels we don't get in America. Just like Nissan, they try to tailer particular engines, body styles, and options to individual markets.

5. BMW did sell the 3 Series Compact for about 3 or 4 years in late 1990s. 318ti. They still sell it around the world. Hatchbacks aren't big in the near luxury segment. Just check out Saab's sales and trends for the past decade. I've seen reports of a European M Compact. Who knows, if the latest hatchback craze lasts, BMW might bring the Compact back again. Maybe Nissan will build a hatchback G35?

6. The G20 competed primarily against the 318i and later 318ti. G20 was only 4 cylinder. Nice but underpowered, esp. in automatic form. (The old 318i automatic suffered from same problem. BMW had sense to drop it.) Infiniti sold the first G20 from 1989 to 1996. Then dropped it in USA in 1997 & 1998. But brought it back in 1999 without a 6 cylinder. Big mistake. It was never a hit at any time. That is why it is discontinued due to the G35's arrival. The G35 clearly overcomes the 4-cyl engine problem! Isn't the G20 sold as a lowly Nissan Primera in Europe? Will it still be made and sold after the G20 exits America? Thought it will.

7. Nissan had announced the future availability of manual transmission and coupe versions of G35 BEFORE the G35 was ever sold in USA. They are NOT waiting for G35 to be a monster smash hit before deciding to expand the model range. They made that decision a long, long time ago. But why they delayed after initial introduction in USA is odd and interesting.

stanny1 · February 2002

If the Infiniti boys do not include LSD, they simply aren't serious. Traction Contol is no substitute for an LSD. Slolom work requires that TC be shut off. I guess that leaves BMW with the right equipment. Only the six-speed BMWs have the right gear ratios and LSD. Lincoln LS, G35, CTS, have all given lip service to putting it all together. IS300's have LSD but no decent cruise rpm. C'mon guys, this is not rocket science. All you have to do is assemble the right parts from the ones on the shelf. The Maxima has LSD, and I think it's a Torsen. Where's the one for the your real Sports Sedan?

riez · February 2002

Does anyone know for sure if the G35 and Z350 6-speed is really all new in comparison to the current Maxima SE 6-speed? Or who makes the optional LSD for it?

maybeg35 · February 2002

http://www.bmw2002.co.uk/news.htm

Does the side and rear styling remind you of any other car. How bout those tail lights?

bobbyknight · February 2002

For all you people projecting doomsday for the G35 because of no manual tranny, let me tell you this:

1) The IS300 is relatively unsuccessfull not because of a lack of manual but because the car was too narrowly focused. There are only so many 20 year olds that can afford a 30K car. I just can't picture hordes of people turning away at the Lexus dealership because of a lack of a manual. The 3-series has universal appeal.

2) If the car is as good as it is on paper, then a manual will put another dimension on an already successful car.

3) A manual would only account for MAYBE 5% of total sales. I feel that this car is more fitting of an automatic anyway. I have driven many maximas and they are much better off with the auto rather than the 5-speed(or six speed) which had long throws and notchy linkage.

Although I would like to see this car with a manual, I would probably buy one with an automatic if I had the choice (only if it was a good one). Its not an all out sports car, its a very sporty luxury car, one that has the needed HP and torque to make it nice with an automatic. The only way I would think that it needed a manual is if it had a very peaky engine, which it doesn't.

baron87 · February 2002

G35 Review in next weeks AutoWeek...very positive. Good review, they like the prospects of Nissans's revival plan...

rezo00 · February 2002

but not perfect...while 95% of cars sold in the usa are auto's (not including econoboxes), BMW manuals actually are closer to 40%...lexus on the other hand is less then 5%, and Mercedes is almost zero.

BMW 5series- notice how different the top photos are from the bottom in the picture? the top one is probably more acurate but the bottom one looks edited.

stanny1 · February 2002

From the side it looks like a bigger 3 series. From the rear, it looks like a chicken's hind end - plain and ugly.

I doubt that 40% of BMW's are sold with manuals in the U.S. I think it's like 15-20% - mostly 3's and Z's.

hvan3 · February 2002

<<1) The IS300 is relatively unsuccessfull not because of a lack of manual but because the car was too narrowly focused. There are only so many 20 year olds that can afford a 30K car.>>

Amen. The fall of the IS300 is NOT due to manual being released in the second production year. Regardless of manual or no manual for the IS300, the fact of the matter is that the styling is TOO aggressive. It's the styling, stupid. It's either you hate it or love it! There is no in between. No amount of special leasing is going to move this boy racer car. It's a souped up Toyota Corrola that should be badge as a Toyota, not Lexus!

For anyone who predicts that the G35 will be doom due to lack of manual is totally clueless! Even without a manual, the G35 auto will probably stay neck and neck with the 330i manual for $10K less!!! For $15K less, it can stay with the 530i/540i auto. How's that for a bargain? Do you actually think G35 with no manual will be doom? LOL. It's all about pricing and performance!

People who buys the G35 look for style, performance, value, and quality. There's no other Japanese subsitute besides Acura TL/CL that offers that. If Acura is any indication, G35 and the Infiniti management team will follow the footsteps of the highly successful formula from Acura.

The biggest loser in this segment will be the IS300 (until Lexus restyle and offer more bang for the buck like the G35).

maybeg35 · February 2002

You dont think the styling of the side, rear, and tail lights look a little like the car in the subject of this forum?

68bullitt · February 2002

I assume most of you have sat inside an IS300 and have slammed the doors and the trunk and checked out the overall quality of the interior. If so, you would realize that the IS300 is a failure as a Lexus because it's CHEAPLY made. The car feels more like a $12,000 Hyundai to me. The interior materials are flimsy and cheap looking. The doors and trunk feel thin, light and flimsy. I'd hate to get side swiped or T-boned in that car. It has nowhere the quality feel and heft of a BMW, MB or the G35. Slam the doors of a BMW, MB or the G35 and then go and slam the doors of the IS300 and you'll know why most customers say "pass" when Lexus asks them to pay $35K for this car. I agree that it should be sold as a Toyota for maybe $20K. Call it the 4-door Celica.

gandhim3 · February 2002

Thanks for the link Maybeg. Looking through the whole page and all the pics, the only concept photo/drawing I liked was the Z5 coupe.

Being a big fan of BMW engineering, I am sorry to say that I would not consider future BMWs if these pics are any indication of their styling direction.

I predict Chris Bangle will be out of a job by the end of 2003.

At least the G35 is better looking. Say what you will of the new G35s rear end, it is still way better than what you would get if you bought new 7er (and I suspect, the upcoming 5er as well).

Infiniti, here I come.

maybeg35 · February 2002

Former 330I owner here.

jmess · February 2002

I was shocked to see that the G35 doesn't have an LSD. To be a real BMW killer it needs one. Traction control is so you don't get stuck. Wait until you pull out in traffic and punch it and the car just seems to slow way down when one wheels starts to spin and the trac cuts in. This happens much more often when you are turning vs going straight; on a wet road it is 3x as bad.

With LSD you get a much better launch and exit from corners. You can really feel the LSD working anytime you start driving your car a little harder; like most people who buy a true sports sedan tend to do, drive their cars a little harder. I am sure future G35 owners would gladly pay more to get an LSD. Too bad you don't have the choice. I would rather have the LSD over the high tech trunk hinges and lifts.

First year cars are always the worst ones to buy. They never seem to get it right. It is almost like they don't want to. They need something for next year or the year after to generate new interest in the car. The press always likes something new.

lsc · February 2002

The new BMW models may not look good now but I bet in a year or so, we'll all probably change our mindes. I didn't think the 3 series looked good when it first came out in '99. I thought the old 3-series looked nicer. Now the old 3-series just looks flat out old compared to the new 3-series.

The IS300 is actually is very nice car to drive. I do agree that the effort to try to bring sport to the Lexus name was overdone with the IS300. It lacks substance and prestige - that's the first impression. I used to mistaken it for the Honda Civic all the time.

Also, the G35 is a much more practical car than the IS300. It's more roomy than the BMW 5-series with a larger trunk. Makes me curious about how big the new Infiniti "mid-size" competitor is going to be.

riez · February 2002

Go back and read all the pre- and initial reviews of the IS300. Press constantly pointed out that it lacked a manual transmission and thus wasn't a serious all around sport sedan. Now read all the pre- and initial reviews of the G35. Every review I've read--MT and AutoWeek--makes prominent mention of the lack of a manual transmission. The AutoWeek story points it out twice. I remember drooling over the C&D article which came out late last summer. It wrongly talked about a G35 6-speed manual upon release. Then I and lots of others were so disappointed when the real story was released just a couple months later.

I wrote the G35 off and bought a BMW with manual. I wasn't waiting to see if it ever came with a manual and if my local Infiniti dealer would ever order one with a manual. How many manual tranny I-30s did you ever see on a dealer's lot? Or in any parking lot? I NEVER EVER saw a one. The two Infiniti dealers within a 150 mile radius of me NEVER EVER ordered one. I asked both dealers at the time. Infiniti ended up killing it off and then didn't put a manual in the I-35.

Just wait till the comparison tests are performed on the 2003 G35. They'll all likely point out how it--ALONE amongst all serious all around sport sedans--cannot be had with a manual. Both Cadillac CTS and Lincoln LS can. BMW 325i, 330i, 525i, 530i, and 540i. IS300. Saabs & Volvos. MBs. Etc.

What does all this say in the minds of true enthusiasts? What will the press enthusiasts communicate to the public? You only get one first impression. So why waste it in every article where the writer will make darn sure to say the G35 can't be had with a manual and you'll have to wait a year or more to get one???

riez · February 2002

If you are really serious about G35 but not interested in sporting or performance capabilities, why do you want the G35 over the I35? The I-35 has luxury, rides nice, big trunk, big back seat, proven build quality, lots of nice options, etc. It also has a Sport Pkg that can give it good performance. See Motor Trend's 11/01 review of I-35 Sport. Wasn't a big point of the G35 to be a serious all around sport sedan? RWD, near 50/50 weight, power, revised suspension, etc?

riez · February 2002

For those who read the Motor Trend and AutoWeek initial reviews of the G35, did you see the comments about fact the Vehicle Dynamic Control system can NOT be completely turned off? As AutoWeek puts it, "Off doesn't really mean 'off' on this car, but when the switch is off the system will stay so unobtrusive that you won't know it's there." And they point out that when VDC kicks in, it really kicks in: "With VDC on, the system was grabbing brake discs and interrupting the throttle so rudely that driving beyond our talent level was simply no fun." Odd choices for what looks like it could eventually be a nice serious all around high performance sports sedan.

b4z · February 2002

The altima has really tinny sounding doors.
Are you guys saying the G35 does not?
That would be a step in the right direction.

carsrcool · February 2002

Riez,
Well stated. I couldn't agree with you more.

It appears to me that Infiniti chose to release the car, start the revenue stream coming, get some return on that huge investment required to bring a new model to market, and target it at the largest market segment (i.e. auto tranny) rather than delay release because 6sp wasn't ready. Basically a financial decision where they decide to accept the trade-off of first yr criticism from the auto press vs revenue stream. I have to believe it was a conscious decision, since they talk about the 6sp and when it will be available to try to ease the pain....a conscious but disappointing decision for the enthusiast market which I consider myself part of. This car will not be a serious contender with BMW until the manual tranny comes. The IS300 rollout was hurt like this...and so will the G35.

bobbyknight · February 2002

Yeah, and look at the sales plunge since the intro of a manual. Lack of a manual in the G35 is not going to put it to its death. If the car is indeed good than the articles will reflect that, like the most recent autoweek article.

Remember, the car has to be good first, if its not than a manual will not matter.

Why can't people like the G35 if they are not going to race it? Maybe the public doesn't like a fancy Maxima.

corkfish · February 2002

This is a sedan. Not a sports car. The Maxima with automatic transmissions outsell the manuals by something like ten to one. I suspect this is true for every sedan on the market ( whether it's a performance sedan or not). Demand for the automatics exceeds demand for the manuals. I suspect that Infiniti is merely recognizing this fact and is addressing the demand for automatics by getting them out first.

maybeg35 · February 2002

The doors close with a good solid "thunk". The trunk the same with no license plate rattle for obvious reasons. The hood is light but closes solidly. Lose the prop rod please! I thought fit and finish were good. The only obvious wear on this show car that had probably thousands of people in and out of it was the left rear passenger door handle where the titanium color was wearing off. That's it. Oh yeah, no drip pan under the car and no stains on the the floor.

gandhim3 · February 2002

The hood is light because it is made from aluminum. Good to see it closes solidly. We will see whether it has a prop rod or gas cylinders in the final production run. I currently drive a Camry (I know, the most boring of all cars). But when the previous generation car was introduced in 1997, it had prop rods. I bought the 2000 model year version of that same car, and it came with gas cylinders.

As for the manual vs. auto debate - I REALLY hope that Infiniti follows through with the bundling that it has done so far on the G35.

Work with me here - Infiniti bundles all 6-speed manny cars with sports suspension and a LSD - that is the only way you can get it. And it would be the perfect combo for me. The only other options I would want after that would be Xenon lights and the Bose sound system.

carsrcool · February 2002

Target market for G35 is sports sedan/enthusiast, i.e. BMW 3 series, etc., not just a sedan. And I don't believe BMW is selling 10 to 1 auto tranny vs manual on the 3ers. If someone wants a mid-size Infiniti sedan, there is one already...the I35.

riez · February 2002

carsrcool... Couldn't have said it better. The G35 sedan and future coupe were supposed to be serious all around sport vehicles. That is why they have RWD, near 50/50 balance, high output engines, future 6-speed manual, etc.

corkfish... Check out the current issue of Motor Trend. Is their long-term wrap-up of 2000 Maxima. Guess which one? The 5-speed manual!!! Read how many automotive press reviews of the Maxima manual model were done from about 1990-2001. The SE manual was the hot car, the one the press wanted to test. It got a lot of publicity for Nissan, far more than the sales figures. But it got positive buzz and brought people into showroom. That is what a serious sport sedan in the full model line up should do. It generates interest and floor traffic.

kegels · February 2002

Are you getting yours at Peninsula Infiniti? When is your's expecting to arrive?
I was told that I should get mine by mid-March.
If the G35(w/ the sports suspension) drives and handles anything close to my 528 w/ the M-suspension, I'm a happy camper.

rezo00 · February 2002

so why do you want a G35 without a manual? why do you want a true "sports sedan"? why not just get a 350Z if you want a full blown sports car? Why not get a japanese sports bike? it will be faster then anything?
Because the G35 will still handel better then the I35 even with an auto, It will still have rear wheel drive, and you still can get a little slide out (dont believe me? go drive an E55 mercedes its auto). and overall a "sports sedan" is a compromise. YES COMPROMISE between luxery and performance, some people want to lean more to the performance side then an I35 but less then a G35 manual. And most importantly 90% of consumers will still want it with an auto. So dont ask silly questions about why other people want something, just worry about what YOU want.

bobbyknight · February 2002

Amen, nobody's complaining that the E55 or the C32 don't have a manual. C&D said that the speedshift? fit the car better than a manual would

silvercoupe1 · February 2002

I was getting annoyed that some people here keep trying to push the auto trans users to the I35. The I35 is FWD and has a non independent rear suspension. Also, the G35 has a little more power and has 5 speed trans instead of a 4 speed one. Since both are priced about the same, I would rather buy a G35. I'm glad I'm not the only person who thinks this way.

maybeg35 · February 2002

At least I hope so depending on the drive.

Infiniti G35 Sedan 2006 and earlier

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