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I have one year to decide what I want. Hopefully, the G35 hype will die down and the purchase cost will be near invoice. By the time fall comes, the new G35 coupe will be introduce. By then, i'll be more serious about getting a new car. Or, if GM has trouble moving the CTS, I may consider it if Cadi offers $5K off along with my $2500 GM rebate points.
"G35 Luxury Leather Model with Premum and Sport-Tuned Suspension Packages Option groups (must select one):
#Aero Package, Power Sunroof, Xenon Headlights
#Winter Package, Infiniti Navigation System, Power sunroof, Xenon headlights"
Since I want the Winter Package, I am forced to take the Nav which I don't want at an extra $2-3K and can't get the Aero package which I might want. Without both the Premium Package and the Sport-Tuned Suspension Package something I want is left off. To get both I apparently have to buy an expensive option I don't want and can't get one I might want depending on how it looks.
Do any of you guys know how many G35's they expect to sell? 30,000? or less than that?
1. The type that wants everything
and doesn't care about the cost.
2. The type that wants limited
options and will take less rather
more equipment when faced with the
mandatory purchase of extras they
don't want.
It will be interesing to see if this option policy eventually has a negative effect on sales, i.e. will some buyers just choose another car rather than feel they are being ripped off by being forced to buy thousands of dollars worth of unwanted extras.
I've been looking at the Volvo S60 and with the exception of a charge for metallic paint they have stand alone options or packages that actually discount the options over ordering stand alone. There is also no bundling of options or forcing multiple options in order to buy one option. Whether the Volvo is a better deal (priced higher with comparable performance of a T5) it still doesn't create this morass when ordering and the feeling of being taken advantage of; so I think Nissan will lose some buyers after the initial surge if they don't lighten up on this policy.
The first thing that comes to mind is "Man, is this going to get dirty or what?" The willow is a very, very light interior, and with this one being a show car, I can tell you that the dyes from people's clothing has already started accumulating on the leather surfaces. The titanium is very sharp, but it is SO overwhelming on the center console that I don't see how people will keep from scratching the bejeezus out of it over time.
Enjoy!
Originally, I ordered a brilliant silver w/ willow interior but chaged my mind after seeing the demo silver car w/ graphite interior. Much better w/ the graphite interior.
I have a couple of questions that I hope you'll be able to answer. You mentioned that the seat [in the G35] was 'wider' than the seat in the CL-S. Is the seat part of the seat [the part we put OUR 'seat' on!!] also LONGER than the CL-S or did you notice?? ALSO - how about that 'thing' stuck to the side of the center console. Did you notice that and/or FEEL that pressing against your leg??
Thanks,
Craig!!
Enjoy you Nissans, all!! And beware of the missing ponies: one day they might come back to bite you!!
Its pointless to badmouth the G35, we know how much you love it but just won't say it.
THe news for you is not all good. Yes you can get get Leather Model with Sport Suspension and without Aero, however, to accomplish that feat you have to buy more than just a moonroof. You must also buy Bose and Winter package. That's roughly an additional $1500 bucks by my reckoning.
So if you heart's set on Leather and Sport be ready to fork over another $1500 and enjoy that great stereo and heated seats.
I definitely see the "bulge" in the foot area that some people have commented upon. I have not personally seen the G35 as yet (much less sat in one), but to those who have - is that bulge to intrusive for some one to use the throttle?
And what the heck is on that bulge on the driver's side? I see a grab-handle on the passenger side, but what is that socket-like thing on the drivers side? Is that where we put in the ignition key?
Finally, I just noticed that the G35 (automatic version at least) comes with a foot-brake, not a hand brake. Don't tell me Infiniti is going the BMW 7 series route and is now eliminating a proper hand brake! Where the heck are they going to put the clutch with that foot brake in the way?
Craig!!
Thanks for the clarification. As for that bulge, I will have to sit in the car to find out whether it is intrusive or not. Maybe that cigarette lighter can be converted to a AC adapter for my laptop? I do not smoke.
Canadacraig -
Never really noticed it. If IRC, the tach on my Camry is on the right and the speedo is on the left. I really have no preference if both of them are the same size.
If they are different sizes, then I prefer the speedo to be larger in automatic tranyy versions of car. And I prefer the tach to be larger in the manual tranny versions of cars.
I can't wait to drive the new G in both manual and auto. Who knows, maybe Infiniti will finally convert me to lazy-man driving.
On the other hand, don't wait and get the auto. The six-speeds may be in short supply once the new Z comes out. I don't want to be on some waiting list.
Also, magazines will test the manuals, even if people buy automatics. That means the published test results will look much better if the manual is the model being tested.
So it would be better if the manual were available, at least for press fleets, right from the start. The Altima auto is a low 7 second car (to 60mph). Big deal. Motorweek took a manual tranny Altima to 60 in 5.9 seconds.
Which would you advertise?
-juice
Also remember these are preproduction prototypes so they will not be up to the standards of final production versions.
IS300 sales suffered because it only had an auto. They were giving away IS300's last June. With the manual Toyota weaned mod-boys can get a Lexus with some zest, rather than the banal auto they stuck in it originally.
And as far as manuals go in the main entry level sport-luxury lineups...BMW sells something like 50% manuals. Hmmm, seems that those who do like to drive a car will buy a manual if the rest of the car can perform. Heck, Acura finally put a manul in its much maligned CL Type S too.
http://www.nissannews.com/infiniti/pr_events/2002/detroit/speech.html
Check Mark McNabb's speech towards to bottom.
I am pretty darn sure that the 6-speed will not be lifted from the Maxima. Nissan is said to have developed its own six-speed for RWD performance cars - Z, GTR, G35. All three of these upcoming models are based on the FM platform. The only major difference being the amount of horses under the hood.
That means no Getrag crap. Cannot comment on the gear ratios though.
Have to disagree with you hvan on the smaller size per your post:
#902 of 932 Tires by hvan3 Jan 27, 2002 (10:59 am)
"You guys need to get over the fact that the Nissan offers off size tires. Once your tires wear out, do you really want to replace the same size tire? Here's your chance to "customize" your tire preference. I would recommend 225/45/17. If you want to go a bit extreme, like myself, lower the vehicle by one inch to improve cornering."
This is a bad idea for a number of reasons. First, the only proper way to lower a car is by swaping suspension components. The aftermarket will deliver, in time. Secondly, reducing the circumference of the stock tire will also reduce the speed at which the auto tranny shifts, will make your speedometer read too high, will make your odometer read more miles than actually driven, and will reduce your fuel mileage. These will need to be overcome by changing the ODO sender and possibly recalibrating the engine ECU. That is a pretty bass-ackwards way to lower your car and it only increases the tread width by 10mm.
To each his own, I guess.
BTW: I'm less worried about *when* the manual tranny will be offered than *How Good* will it be. I'd rather Nissan not rush something second rate to market just to make people like me happy. Got to drive a new M5 a couple of weeks back: that is now my new benchmark for what a sport manual should be like. I'll settle for getting just close.
HiC
Are you kidding me?
I dunno why it's done like that but I hate it. Get with the program folks, no one does 55mph on the interstate anymore.
"Get with the program folks, no one does 55mph on the interstate anymore."
I come across plenty of people everyday doing 55mph in the passing lane.
I think it's done because people want passing power while cruising in 5th, without having to downshift to 4th (or even 3rd). High revs put the engines in their "sweet spot" of torque, ready for passing at any time.
You trade off noise and fuel efficiency, of course. Maybe even durability.
-juice
I think we all do. Those are the people who don't seem to have a clue. I don't mind people who prefer to drive slow. But if you want to drive slow, PLEEEEASE stay in the right lane. Accidents are caused by people trying to pass the slow drivers in the left lane.
-juice
In my opinion, the 6-speed is probably still undergoing development, seeing as it is shared with the new Z. And the new Z will not come out until the Fall of this year, which is also when the G35-based coupe will be shown.
As much as everyone is comparing the G35 to the Lexus IS300, you have to remember that these cars were brought to the market under different development processes. The IS300 is simply a Toyota rebadged as a Lexas - an after thought, when Toyota realized that the key to success in the US market is not competing against Benz (which it has done so successfully thus far). The key is to emulate BMW. Not having a small 4-door chasis in the pipeline, they just slapped on a Lexus badge on the Japanese market Altezza. How else do you explain the poor quality interior and high NVH levels.
Yes, Nissan has done the same thing with the G35 by slapping an Infiniti badge on to the Japanese market Skyline. But the Skyline is based on an all-new FM platform expressly designed to compete on the global stage. The G35 is not an afterthought, unlike the IS300.
It's ludicrous that that IS300 is actually in the same low to mid $30Ks price range as the G35. The G35 introduction just underscores the fact that the IS300 would have been more appropriately brought to market as a $25K Toyota. I would expect IS300 sales to decline still further with the G35s introduction.
Are they still using the twin turbo inline six? Do they have a turbo version of the current 3.5v6? Do they plan on doing this?
Anyone.
http://www.nissan.co.jp/GT-R/R34/0105/index.html
According to that site, the top of the line model is GT-R M-spec R34. Or currently there is an 1000-unit limited GT-R M-spec V-spec II Nür. The limited GT-R has 6 cylinder DOHC 24 valve, twin ball bearing metal turbocharger. It has maximum power of 280PS@5800rpm, torque of 392Nm@4400rpm.
Infiniti G35 is an redesigned Skyline and it is also sold in Japan. The original skyline is called Skyline GT-R and it is classified separately.