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So can anybody clarify the length ??? An extra 18" makes it 210" long ????? Not the 200" that the Honda is currently. I'd be interested in the extra length. We're looking for a Minivan to cart 3 giant (130 lb) dogs in and the extra length would be great. How wide ????
I've also seen pictures of the proposed 2004 Nissan Quest. Very nice exterior styling....it's not just a box on wheels. Any news on the exterior styling?
I haven't read anything that it will be a body on frame design. I think you mean it will be built at the same factory as Tundra and Sequoia due to the length of the vehicle.
If Toyota had two vans (would be nice after all they have 5 SUV's) they might make one of them that large, but not as their only van.
My perfect Toyota van would be slightly smaller than the Sienna with The 2.4 l 4-cyl engine and a manual transmission (Tall Camry Wagon). It would be perfect for my needs since I just use the car to go places, and don't drag race or tow anything. I can garuntee Toyota will never build that.
Why not have 2 minivans since Toyota already has 5 SUV's of various sizes?
A "tall" Camry wagon would be nice but Honda tried it with the first Oddysey which did not sell well here.
If they did adopt your suggestion of a tall Camry wagon, why not have 3 Toyota minivans:
#1. Tall Camry wagon.
#2. Keep current Sienna size.
#3. Have larger Odyssey size with the fold into the floor rear seat.
Toyota has been very successful with many sedan sizes, many SUV sizes, and 2 sizes pickups with various configurations.
Edmunds and Toyota call the Highlander an "SUV". The Highlander is perfect for many.
I think dudleyr's idea of a perfect Toyota Van would be perfect for many others and would similar to the Higlander, but have 3 row of seats and would be a more economical "van".
I believe since the 3.0 litre engine is being replaced by a 3.3 litre (2004 ES330, RX330), this engine might go into the sienna, with maybe, around 235hp (up from 210). On the other hand, if it is going to be 18" longer, this engine will not be sufficient...
Any more new news/pictures?
-acd
"A redesigned '04 (Sienna) model will be bigger, with all-wheel drive and maybe a 3.5 liter V6..."
I'm not sure about the accuracy, but I thought I'd pass it on!
Oddessy: 201.2
Chysler T+C: 200.6
Windstar: 201.5
Grand Caravan: 200.5
Current Sienna + 8": 202.2
Ford Econoline Cargo van: 211.9
Current Sienna + 18": 212.2
I would find it hard to believe that Toyota would go almost a foot bigger than any other minivan on the market, and be in the full-size van size range with a minivan.
I'd bet lunch that the new Sienna will be within an inch or two of all the other minivans.
If I purchased the '04 model I would have to clean out the back of the garage.
That would be a serious purchase detriment in my case....!
Note rear doors.
-Andrew L
Pic looks real to me. Vince's page has some obvious photochopped pics, but this is one of the authentic ones (he's actually been correct with some of the pics in the past).
At least, it's not so much boxy looking as the odyssey.
AWD will be available in the LE and XLE trims but it is expensive and comes with 100 mile run-flat tires.
An XLE Limited will also be offered featuring things such as laser cruise control, sonar alert system and much more, basically a "Lexus" van.
Hope that helps out.
At least, it's not so much boxy looking as the odyssey.
Translation says this is a Stream. (Click on hyperlink above photo to go to 2002/10 page).
Click on the first double blue arrow to go to the 2002/9 page. Top picture is a Sienna, but it's less clear than that on Edmunds already...
I hope there is really a long wheelbase version with a powerful engine.
Our 2000 Toyota Sienna XLE is nice. But it lacks a glove box light or a power passenger seat. The stereo is pathetic. The drive is nice, but the amenities are just not up to luxury standards. I worry that the 2004 XLE Limited will be similarly equipped.
Mercedes had designed a luxury minivan, but their merger with Chrysler led to abandonment of this project. This was in lieu of the Chrysler vans. I think that there is a market for empty nesters and others who need a minivan for reasons other than children.
Thanks, Seb
odd.
Or even better, should shoe manufacturers eliminate shoe sizes smaller than 16 because, you know what, you could stuff your size 16 shoes with tissue to fit your size 9 feet.
Not trying to flame here, but just illustrating a point.
Notice the door handles are not sliding doors, not a North American mini-van.